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CJacobs posted:tbh it makes me kind of sad that they were given a perfect setup of "what if there was a normal vault that had no experiment and an untouched world outside its bulkhead" and decided to follow through with "it's exactly like every other fallout game, but now there's more players" It is kind of funny that the reason the east coast never had a Vault City is that the inhabitants went power mad, strip mined the relatively pristine world that they inherated and blew themselves to gently caress shortly after leaving. It's pretty much the old world in miniature.
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Sinteres posted:Since the idea seems to be that WV didn't get directly hit by the nukes, given how the small gap between the end of the world and this game, there should be a lot more evidence around of all the death and despair, especially since nobody else has been around to clean anything up at all. I hope they're consistent enough to have surviving tech like computers functioning more smoothly than they do after another couple hundred years of falling apart in the other games. Bethesda guy reading this: Con... sistent? *frowns, thumbs through dictionary*
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Otacon posted:Todd Howard Q&A: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPWDwBrUNyY Those were some hard hitting questions.
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CJacobs posted:tbh it makes me kind of sad that they were given a perfect setup of "what if there was a normal vault that had no experiment and an untouched world outside its bulkhead" and decided to follow through with "it's exactly like every other fallout game, but now there's more players" More correctly, "It's exactly like every other Fallout game, only the untouched world has no NPCs at all to give quests so it's just dungeon diving and killing."
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Jun 11, 2018 20:19
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So this is a massively multiplayer bethesda game, without modding support, set in Fallout, with less emphasis on story and co-op/PVP Hard pass for me
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Jun 11, 2018 20:20
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But think of all the stories you and your friends can create together.
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Jun 11, 2018 20:21
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It's multiplayer, not massively
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Jun 11, 2018 20:21
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VATS still exists, it's now a real-time aimbot assist Quests are delivered via found holotapes, robots, and terminals There is no true singleplayer; other players will be in your game, like it or not So, yeah, that's that
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Jun 11, 2018 20:22
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will there be SPECIAL? Is it still an RPG in the sense that you're developing more than your character's gear?
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Jun 11, 2018 20:23
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Otacon posted:Todd Howard Q&A: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPWDwBrUNyY Just got to the 76 part and he's already confirmed some of the worries. It seems like you can't play alone (he says you can ignore other players), and yes no npcs, not counting AI and terminals.
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Jun 11, 2018 20:26
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Vinylshadow posted:VATS still exists, it's now a real-time aimbot assist So did he mention when Fallout 76 Ultimate Hard Pass Edition goes on sale because I'll be buying that one.
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Gort posted:It's multiplayer, not massively Mildly Multiplayer™ (In a supposedly ultra huge map, so you get the real DayZed/H1N1/Pubgrub experience of walking around for an hour and getting sniped by some guy who saw you first) Rinkles posted:Just got to the 76 part and he's already confirmed some of the worries. It seems like you can't play alone (he says you can ignore other players), and yes no npcs, not counting AI and terminals. Goddamn, I knew it 
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Jun 11, 2018 20:27
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Rinkles posted:Just got to the 76 part and he's already confirmed some of the worries. It seems like you can't play alone (he says you can ignore other players), and yes no npcs, not counting AI and terminals. Ignore them how? Like, let them kill you and blow up your poo poo? Or turn off PVP and have them follow you around teabagging all the stuff you kill and spamming emotes?
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Jun 11, 2018 20:28
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Vinylshadow posted:VATS still exists, it's now a real-time aimbot assist He had a chance to say you can turn off pvp multiple times too and pretty clearly indicated that you can't by hedging.
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Jun 11, 2018 20:29
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CJacobs posted:So did he mention when Fallout 76 Ultimate Hard Pass Edition goes on sale because I'll be buying that one. At least Metro 3 is coming out
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CJacobs posted:So did he mention when Fallout 76 Ultimate Hard Pass Edition goes on sale because I'll be buying that one. if they made it last man standing i would def upgrade to Ultimate Hard Pass from my Basic Hard Pass
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Yardbomb posted:"Oh a fight pit bar? That sounds really co- oh it's just a shootout that gets abandoned after. A ROBOT RACETRACK? That sounds awes- oh it's just a shootout that gets abandoned after. Well.. I mean surely this witchcraft museum might have something ne- shoot monster and leave." The robot racetrack was the area I had specifically in mind when I wrote that, I was so bummed out when I found it.
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NofrikinfuN posted:Ignore them how? Like, let them kill you and blow up your poo poo? Or turn off PVP and have them follow you around teabagging all the stuff you kill and spamming emotes? "Well, we want a little drama. But we're still tweaking things." He was adamant about not being able to entirely opt out of PVP. (this is not the impression I got from him, yesterday, at all)
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Jun 11, 2018 20:31
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can video game developers stop assuming I have friends please
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Jun 11, 2018 20:33
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No mods at launch, but they'll come later Same goes for private worlds (probably to iron out the Sinteres posted:He had a chance to say you can turn off pvp multiple times too and pretty clearly indicated that you can't by hedging. Someone really needs to grab him by the shoulders and shake him, telling him- Your Computer posted:can video game developers stop assuming I have friends please
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Jun 11, 2018 20:35
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Otacon posted:Todd Howard Q&A: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPWDwBrUNyY No longer preordering lol. No pvp opt out or chill sessions.
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Vinylshadow posted:VATS still exists, it's now a real-time aimbot assist That's kind of good in a way. I got frustrated in fallout 4 because you spend hours talking nonsense with NPCs. At some point you just want to explore the world and get into the action.
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Jun 11, 2018 20:36
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"We're committed to mods. But not at launch." 
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Rinkles posted:"Well, we want a little drama. But we're still tweaking things." He was adamant about not being able to entirely opt out of PVP. (this is not the impression I got from him, yesterday, at all) Definitely a dealbreaker. Hopefully Starfield turns out well, but post-apocalypse is a lot more interesting than general sci-fi as settings go.
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Volkerball posted:I was so mad when I found out there was no way to not aggro everyone when you walked into the combat zone. Like most of the problems with Bethesda games, there's a mod for that. Combat zone restored actually makes the combat zone the combat zone
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Jun 11, 2018 20:37
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Also: not playable at E3.
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Jun 11, 2018 20:37
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Rinkles posted:Just got to the 76 part and he's already confirmed some of the worries. It seems like you can't play alone (he says you can ignore other players), and yes no npcs, not counting AI and terminals. Unless resources are infinite, you can't just ignore other players either. If there's only one place to get corn, and someone else got that corn first, then you get no corn no matter how much you want to ignore that corn stealing bastard
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Jun 11, 2018 20:41
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If they're smart, resources will be instanced so that everyone sees their own copy of stuff you can pick up. But they're not smart, because they made Fallout 76, so who knows if the mechanics will follow this trend.
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Jun 11, 2018 20:42
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CJacobs posted:If they're smart, resources will be instanced so that everyone sees their own copy of stuff you can pick up. But they're not smart, because they made Fallout 76, so who knows if the mechanics will follow this trend. The first resource war was over oil and uranium. The second was over oil and aluminum.
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Jun 11, 2018 20:44
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This is one of the biggest wait and see games of recent memory for me. The world looks cool the monster design looks great and multiplayer settlement building and survival could be a lot of fun. There is still potential for decent quest design without NPCs but it also could be skin 50 mole rats over and over. It’s also probably going to be janky as hell at launch
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Azhais posted:Like most of the problems with Bethesda games, there's a mod for that. Reading about the mod, it looks like the Combat Zone really was meant to be an arena for fighting in. They just couldn't get anything about it to work, so they threw it all out and made it another dungeon.
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Jun 11, 2018 20:45
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Jun 11, 2018 20:46
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RBA Starblade posted:The first resource war was over oil and uranium. The second was over oil and aluminum. Legends say that the secret bandit stockpile of duct tape adhesive remains hidden even to this day.
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Jun 11, 2018 20:48
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Just reissue Fallout 4 with LAN co-op built in so I can wipe out feral ghouls for my wife because they creep her out terribly. Also, patch out the terrible story.
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NofrikinfuN posted:Just reissue Fallout 4 with LAN co-op built in so I can wipe out feral ghouls for my wife because they creep her out terribly. Good news about Fallout 76 and terrible stories!
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Bulkiest Toaster posted:This is one of the biggest wait and see games of recent memory for me. The world looks cool the monster design looks great and multiplayer settlement building and survival could be a lot of fun. this is something that makes me extra disappointed, like in terms of a fallout to explore this looks like a lot of fun, but there is a really big but. Kind of gives me hope that, if this doesn't kill fallout, the next single player experience will be neat at least.
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hahahaha you genuinely can't make a private server. you have to join a random public server. no choice of the matter for public servers. public servers are upheld by bethesda, can invite friends if not full, limited. might not be able to invite all your friends because they want servers to form their own communities. apparently this is how they are currently planning to stop big clans from conquering servers, by not allowing you to play with friends. nuked areas remain nuked, remove all og content, replaced with harder content. no server wipes planned. can't opt out of pvp. all buildings are destructible. no npcs, no quests outside of overseer. admitted they don't have all the multiplayer details actually worked out yet. this is a disaster. how this passed any sort of qa is baffling to me. it's not even fully playable yet, they don't have the multiplayer figured out yet, and it launches in loving november.
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chitoryu12 posted:Reading about the mod, it looks like the Combat Zone really was meant to be an arena for fighting in. They just couldn't get anything about it to work, so they threw it all out and made it another dungeon. And then made a dlc with a focus on building your own arenas. 
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Rookersh posted:hahahaha you genuinely can't make a private server. you have to join a random public server. How do they not get that the first instinct for the worst of gamers is to destroy everything immediately?
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Guys I am *gets shot* playing alone right now *get shot* please let me experience this world solo *base gets nuked*
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