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FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

mystes posted:

Do most people in the US really use messaging apps like Facebook Messenger on a daily basis?
High schoolers use it for group chats, from what Ive seen.

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Not Operator
Jan 1, 2009

Not A doctor, THE Doctor!
The British government, or maybe just the Tories specifically, use WhatsApp.

And they also want the encryption on it to be decryptable, by them, to stop terrors.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
People actually use messaging programs? I am a hermit and I live in a cave, so it seems weird that people talk to other people. I assume my situation is the norm.

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA

Cojawfee posted:

People actually use messaging programs? I am a hermit and I live in a cave, so it seems weird that people talk to other people. I assume my situation is the norm.
It is; we are all chatbots, and you are the last one left.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

FilthyImp posted:

High schoolers use it for group chats, from what Ive seen.

Lots do because doing group chats over SMS can be tricky since some people have imessage, some people have android etc and it results in weird poo poo like messages getting delayed by hours if they ever arrive at all, even in TYOOL 2018 where a mixed environment has been present for years now.

jojoinnit posted:

Sorry about your lack of friends? :shrug:

Facebook is like a potemkin village of friends. I know these people, were supposedly friends, but they'd probably be annoyed if not creeped out if I actually tried to talk to them. Bringing this back on topic from the brink of E/N, I'm probably not the only one who feels this way and I wonder if this will start becoming more of a thing in the mainstream as people and social media age

klafbang
Nov 18, 2009
Clapping Larry

Casimir Radon posted:

I've been using WhatsApp a lot to talk to people back home when I'm overseas. Helps that it's not tied to your phone platform, and besides that I refuse to use Facebook.

Good call, refusing to using Facebook by using Facebook. I refuse to use google, so I use gmail.

jojoinnit
Dec 13, 2010

Strength and speed, that's why you're a special agent.

klafbang posted:

Good call, refusing to using Facebook by using Facebook. I refuse to use google, so I use gmail.

You either don't know what WhatsApp is or you're just being deliberately obtuse...

Veib
Dec 10, 2007


jojoinnit posted:

You either don't know what WhatsApp is or you're just being deliberately obtuse...

Facebook has owned WhatsApp since 2014.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Veib posted:

Facebook has owned WhatsApp since 2014.
And yet it exists outside the rest of the Facebook enviroment.

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow
The majority of people I know and around me use a social media service that I don't approve of. Wake up, sheeple!

Bum the Sad
Aug 25, 2002
Hell Gem

A FUCKIN CANARY!! posted:

Modern TVs are basically monitors except shittier, especially now that some don't even have built in tuners. Everyone I know with a game console plugs it into a PC monitor for the reduced latency, and shows generally get watched on streaming services on a tablet or phone.

The only people I know with dedicated TVs are the type that run it 24/7 without ever actually watching it, because they enjoy the extra background noise.

You are weird and only know weird nerd people

Cojawfee posted:

People actually use messaging programs? I am a hermit and I live in a cave, so it seems weird that people talk to other people. I assume my situation is the norm.

I use FB messenger everynow and then to harass some college/grad school friends. Seems less intrusive sending a goatse over FB messenger vs direct text message to their number/

mystes
May 31, 2006

Metal Geir Skogul posted:

I ise hangouts because it lets me text on my computer and forward calls from phone to computer, both of which are super useful.
Without a Google Voice account?

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Hangouts merged with google voice a while ago.

mystes
May 31, 2006

Cojawfee posted:

Hangouts merged with google voice a while ago.
They sort of partially merged but post I was responding to made it sound like it could do similar things to a normal number by forwarding it from the phone. Normally even with Hangouts I would think a call would need to be to a voice number to answer it from the computer?

Also they're probably going to unmerge them based on the fact that they started developing the voice app again and they've apparently lost interest in hangouts as a consumer product.

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stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Cojawfee posted:

Hangouts merged with google voice a while ago.

Iirc they are deprecating hamgouts as well as allo

I really wish google would straighten their chat poo poo out

Google i want to use your chat services i just dont want to figure out the new one every 2 loving years

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
It's Google. Someone randomly picks a project they want to work on, then they break it, and then it dies. Then someone else merges it with their project and then they abandon that. And then someone else comes along and removes some feature you really needed and then goes radio silent. Posting on a google message board just gets someone saying the bug you keep getting is an "intended feature."

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Star Man posted:

The majority of people I know and around me use a social media service that I don't approve of. Wake up, sheeple!
Most people seem to endlessly bitch about how bad Facebook is for their productivity and self esteem, and act all shocked when it turns out Zucklefuck and Co. did something evil again. Clearly I'm the insane one for not wanting to participate.

1000 Brown M and Ms
Oct 22, 2008

F:\DL>quickfli 4-clowns.fli

roffels posted:

I hear this thrown around, but is this a case of remembering really good albums and ignoring unmemorable or outright bad ones?

Yes. Same with anything nostalgic. The only difference between modern music and old music is that modern music is too new to have forgotten the bad stuff yet.

A FUCKIN CANARY!!
Nov 9, 2005


One difference with older stuff is that an album is more easily thought of as an indivisible whole, and people just remember how great the album is. Even if a few songs aren't your favorite, it's still part of the album.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001





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Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
Hamgouts sounds painful.

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011

mystes posted:

Without a Google Voice account?

I have a GV account and it's the only number I give out and put on applications, the only number I've used for years. Makes life simpler when my primary carrier is Sprint, with how they're super lovely and maybe merging and maybe have coverage in big cities. It also made it easy to add multiple other numbers when I had a business and/or was on a deployment and couldn't use my regular cellphone - I just logged into google voice/hangouts and had the GV number forward to the new desk phone on base. There was also a brief period where Sprint was unavailable where I was staying for six months so I picked up a pay-as-you-go and just had GV forward to that phone. One number, multiple carriers.


Google had better not gently caress it up completely :mad:

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

One reason for using a chat service over here in not-USA is that international SMS used to be a little bit unreliable, and trusting international MMS was downright naive. (Besides, MMS used to be expensive.)

It's not super important if all your contacts are local and neither they nor you ever travel outside the country, of course.

Devdisigdu
Mar 23, 2016

The shadows lengthen
In Carcosa.

Regular Nintendo posted:

Iirc they are deprecating hamgouts as well as allo

I really wish google would straighten their chat poo poo out

Google i want to use your chat services i just dont want to figure out the new one every 2 loving years

Bring back Google Wave.

(Please don't)

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011

Devdisigdu posted:

Bring back Google Wave.

(Please don't)

They did. It's called Slack and it's Good.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

jojoinnit posted:

I have Signal only to talk to one friend who works in infosec and is therefore paranoid.

Paranoid infosec nerd here, seconding your friend's recommendation. Signal really is the gold standard for secure chat/voice/video. But any of the other encrypted message apps (Telegram, WhatsApp, Wickr, whatever) are almost as good and should be plenty secure for almost anyone.

The funny part is that all these apps are gradually helping to make ordinary phone calls obsolete. Come for the paranoid encryption, stay for the enormously improved sound quality on the call.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



Slack is just IRC with giphy integration

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


How does WhatsApp actually make money? Last time I checked I just got a bunch of conjecture.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Casimir Radon posted:

How does WhatsApp actually make money? Last time I checked I just got a bunch of conjecture.

Doesn't it cost money after the first year, or did they drop that when Facebook bought it?

I installed Whatsapp at one point, got on my wife's family chat... uninstalled it after a couple days because I didn't care for 50 "Good morning" images every single day



https://www.indiatimes.com/technolo...dle-338246.html

(100 crore = 1 billion)

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


I used it 4 years ago to talk to my mom when she was overseas for a month. I started using it again this year to talk to people back home while I'm overseas for 6 months. Never had to pay for anything.

jojoinnit
Dec 13, 2010

Strength and speed, that's why you're a special agent.
I'm pretty sure I paid 99c for it back in the day. Now it's just Facebook money so I doubt they matter for revenue.

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?

Casimir Radon posted:

How does WhatsApp actually make money? Last time I checked I just got a bunch of conjecture.

Users aren’t the customer. They are the product. WhatsApp is the information gathering mechanism.

Don Gato
Apr 28, 2013

Actually a bipedal cat.
Grimey Drawer

GutBomb posted:

Users aren’t the customer. They are the product. WhatsApp is the information gathering mechanism.

Charging customers money is the real tech relic here.

I use WhatsApp a lot since the sound quality is good, when I installed it it was by far the easiest way to set up a group chat with people in multiple countries and worked everywhere I could get internet. I know a lot of people in the Navy who use it when they're underway but other than that I don't think I've seen Americans use it a ton.

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


Finns do WhatsApp a lot for some reason, it's the app of choice for those who don't do Facebook and it makes multinational chat groups a breeze. The irony is, of course, that Zuckerberg gets to read through your messages anyway.

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
Found a SEGA Naomi 2 arcade CPU board at Bookmans Mesa a few days ago; all it needs is a power supply.

So, y'know, if you're interested in running SEGA arcade games on the original hardware, this is the stuff for you. The 200 dollar stuff for you.

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
Found a bunch of other stuff that made me feel very old, too. Because I am.





Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Gonz posted:

Found a SEGA Naomi 2 arcade CPU board at Bookmans Mesa a few days ago; all it needs is a power supply.

So, y'know, if you're interested in running SEGA arcade games on the original hardware, this is the stuff for you. The 200 dollar stuff for you.



$200 is actually a pretty good price I think

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Yeah, if it's functional (how special is the power supply?), that's pretty fair for relatively modern arcade hardware, even though it's "just" a sorta-kinda upgraded Dreamcast.

I confused it with the Triforce system at first, that would absolutely be worth $200, probably add another zero to that.

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Gromit
Aug 15, 2000

I am an oppressed White Male, Asian women wont serve me! Save me Campbell Newman!!!!!!!

Powered Descent posted:

Paranoid infosec nerd here, seconding your friend's recommendation. Signal really is the gold standard for secure chat/voice/video. But any of the other encrypted message apps (Telegram, WhatsApp, Wickr, whatever) are almost as good and should be plenty secure for almost anyone.

My colleagues and I use Signal when we are coordinating all our teams on multi-site raids. We don't tend to send anything really sensitive over it, mind you.

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Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Gonz posted:

Found a SEGA Naomi 2 arcade CPU board at Bookmans Mesa a few days ago; all it needs is a power supply.

So, y'know, if you're interested in running SEGA arcade games on the original hardware, this is the stuff for you. The 200 dollar stuff for you.



I do want that and can pay. But Australia :(

EDIT: You photo of VB stuff.

One of these days I will finish my VB code for a Metal Slug port. Sadly I sold my VB so actual hardware debugging/testing is out the window.

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