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Mr. Nice! posted:I will remember okinawa forever because of a certain special cook. Carlson i believe was his name. I think he’s a CS1 and gonna retire a first class in a few years now (or at least i hope so). I definitely know the guy you're talking about.
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Man Okinawa loving sucks.
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Jun 8, 2018 23:07
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Unless I can pop smoke and split my next deployment will be there. Nice, get me a location so I can take my people on a tour of where special cook hosed
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Jun 8, 2018 23:09
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is it 100% lame rules and bureaucracy that ruins Okinawa or? Remoteness is a factor I’m sure
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Jun 8, 2018 23:14
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There's also the Marines being good for heinous crimes against locals
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Jun 8, 2018 23:23
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Oh nice. The building that has the washing machines was damaged in a landslide and is closed. God loving dammit.
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Jun 9, 2018 00:37
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ManMythLegend posted:Man Okinawa loving sucks. At least the snakes in Guam won't *kill* you or rot off part of your limb(s). BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Jun 9, 2018 |
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Jun 9, 2018 00:42
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Based on my (laughable) grades, recruiter suggested I get a grad degree and then decide if I still wanted to do Intel since I got the polisci degree. So that answers that  Thank you everyone who responded, it helped me narrow down the questions I was asking him.
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Loel posted:Based on my (laughable) grades, recruiter suggested I get a grad degree and then decide if I still wanted to do Intel since I got the polisci degree. So that answers that you should never rejoin imo and stick to CYOA threads
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Jun 9, 2018 02:23
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Friend of myself and Nice was an OCS class officer recently, he said they saw some real low GPAs, do some recruiter shopping. Or you know, don't rejoin
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Jun 9, 2018 05:30
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Nostalgia4Dogges posted:is it 100% lame rules and bureaucracy that ruins Okinawa or? There are some nice beaches but they do not outweigh the idiotic and crushing rules and bureaucracy or the fact that while the island is technically part of Japan, the Japanese have neglected it since forever and it's a dump.
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Jun 9, 2018 11:40
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The northern part of the island is actually pretty cool. There are plenty of tropical beaches and places to get away from the mass of US Military. The problem is that if you've spent any time on a ship in the Pacific you've spent a bunch of time on tropical islands. Once you've seen one beach, they start to all look the same and the scenery doesn't offset the rest of the stupidity you are forced to endure while you are there.
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Jun 9, 2018 13:36
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As an example of how lovely the military made it: I had a sailor who was married to an Okinawan woman. They had a newborn baby and her and the mother were living with the in-laws on the island to help while my sailor was on a sea tour. The problem was that they lived in an off limits area. All this guy wanted was to spend a night with his wife and kid. No exceptions to policy granted. I still signed his overnight papers and told him to go and enjoy it because gently caress that noise. I wasn't going to let a bunch of idiot marines gently caress it up for my sailor. gently caress Okinawa.
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Jun 9, 2018 14:25
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Okinawa is still better than Guam.
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Jun 10, 2018 16:10
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piL posted:Okinawa is still better than Guam. Both are better than Diego Garcia
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Jun 10, 2018 16:41
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Seriously, gently caress Guam forever. Signed up to go see cool places and spent most of my time on this oppressively hot and humid island where theres nothing to do but bars and massage parlors. Cant wait til I can get next day shipping like the rest of the civilized world, so glad Im getting out next month. /rant
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Jun 11, 2018 04:49
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Guam always seemed like the cool and smaller Okinawa with more autonomy and big boy rules but idk. Tbh this is largely the first time I’ve heard bad things. I mean I wouldn’t want to live there, but a tour sounds fun
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Jun 11, 2018 05:44
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Yeah I've only visited for a few days at a time but I always had fun in ghetto Hawaii. Decent bars, beautiful beaches, good food, and easy to get around. Not much more I'd ask out of a small island in the Pacific.
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Nostalgia4Ass posted:Yeah I've only visited for a few days at a time but I always had fun in ghetto Hawaii. Decent bars, beautiful beaches, good food, and easy to get around. Not much more I'd ask out of a small island in the Pacific. Guam's likely preferable to Kwajalein. I'd imagine only Diego Garcia is worse, solely because there's no indigenous population.
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Nostalgia4Ass posted:I've only visited for a few days at a time Sure, it's a fine place to spend a few days on deployment but Nostalgia4Dogges posted:I mean I wouldn’t want to live there This is my problem. 3 and a half years of the same 200 square miles gets old pretty fast.
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Jun 11, 2018 22:07
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If you see a white girl on guam she's either in the military, a military spouse, or an imported stripper
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M_Gargantua posted:If you see a white girl on guam she's either in the military, a military spouse, or an imported stripper Pick two.
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My boat should have made some shirts about our Guam adventure. "3 weeks at sea and all we did was drive around Guam and go home"
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Jun 12, 2018 03:42
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In case anyone wants a reminder of why you never go full nuke. Bolded the lesson. https://www.reddit.com/r/navy/comments/8qdc4k/dont_want_to_be_nuke a redditor posted:Im a month into power school.
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Jun 12, 2018 11:16
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I don't know what you're all complaining about! Posted to Japan looks great! The army knows how to make it fun! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGrHt3ZbQBs (yes I know, very outdated but some great quotes and a fun look at the past)
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Jun 12, 2018 11:29
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Well the plans and ops cells here in Okinawa are going to be having some fun tomorrow morning.
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Geizkragen posted:In case anyone wants a reminder of why you never go full nuke. Bolded the lesson. He absolutely enjoyed checking badges? I love the people in the thread saying to talk to your chain of command. I'm imagining the training jacket entry.. "Discussed weekly concerns with MM3. MM3 stated wanted to quit. Told MM3 to continue studying. No problems noted"
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Ok Korea goons, good job but Kim said they're going to be good now so you might as well start packing to come back. The long tyranny of UFL/UFG is over.
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I just need to rant for a second. I joined the reserves in January and it's been torturous ever since. Cheap healthcare and gas money be damned, this poo poo is bananas. I had to go through a rate change to join, and I've been in my new rate for functionally 2 weeks (not even that as I haven't actually been working in my job 8 hours a day for my drill weekends). The senior leadership expects me to be some kind of expert already (I went for FC to YN, not exactly related jobs) and when they ask me something I obviously wouldn't know the ins and outs of they get a little miffed. They give me the canned response of "well you should figure it out" in the context of submitting evals with no back up and no prior experience outside of the contact non-admin rates have with them. Suffice to say I hosed it up and am trying to fix it but that's not good enough. On top of this, I find out today that the LPO and I are on the chopping block for something that's also a big deal but we received no notification on. No face-to-face, no emails. The CoC is also upset about this for obvious reasons but... what the gently caress did they expect me to do? Read their loving minds? Did I mention that I also have no formal training? No A-school and no OJT as the way things are done here is you don't find out you're on a dinq list until the day you walk into the drill. The NOSC hasn't given us our own access so we can send that information to the sailors during the month rather than get punched in the face on Saturday. Couple that with a network that takes, no joke, 30 minutes to print one piece of paper and it boils down to not being able to sit with the only other YN to get some training since I have to put out a bunch of fires from he word go. I'm bitching like some seaman right now. Maybe I had it real good in the 10 years I was active, I don't know. But this is the most rear end-backwards place I've ever been in. It's stressing me the gently caress out and I just wanted to get it off my chest.
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Fangthane posted:I just need to rant for a second. gently caress you if you are still in
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You got a bad NOSC and unit. I’ve always had good units but my first NOSC was an on fire poo poo show.
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That sounds completely normal. Now learn your reporting chain and escalate your complaints with supporting documentation until it gets fixed. Never back down and never let them threaten to fire you without escalating over their heads. Most of them will get mad but bitch out when confronted about their horribleness.
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Fangthane posted:I just need to rant for a second. I find myself constantly questioning if this is really worth the $220 healthcare premium.
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Gray Matter posted:LS to EM for about a year and a half now. No school, no rate training, no work experience (or any work at all really, every weekend is just admin poo poo and good old quality Navy training on the topic du jour). Ask me about 3M, tagouts, or even to explain volts and amps and be met with a blank stare. The $220 is nice but the real jewel is the super low catastrophic cap. If you got kids it's amazing.
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I couldn't imagine coming to the reserves in a rate you weren't as active. It is hard enough in the first few years to navigate the reserve "culture" and understand everything else and to the have to deal with people expecting you to have the same knowledge base, my hat is off to you. That being said...  go make sure this is in the CO's log and I need a MFR about SN Snuffy and a FITREP correction letter to BUPERS for LCDR Butts. I'll grab you some lunch as you're never leaving
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Fangthane posted:I just need to rant for a second. They want you to do it because they don't know how, which is also why they aren't trying to teach you poo poo. Just push it down the ol'chain of command and cover your tracks. lol you reservist puke stop giving a poo poo and tell them that their command climate is utter poo poo. It sounds like they're making you question your decision to join the reserves. Maybe you should return the favor (and sacrifice your remaining reservist career)
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Fangthane posted:I just need to rant for a second. Glad to hear it. Your NOSC sucks, and that's typical. The US Navy does not allow its best and brightest into NOSC shore duty. How many DCs do you have doing IT work? Is a YN, PN, or LS your admin LPO? Do you have any career-counselor trained personnel attached to your NOSC or unit? CFL? Pick the worst answers to any of these questions, then just wait six months and the staffing will change. Right now, you're in a bad spot, but it's not your fault. The way to get some relief is to realize that 1) this isn't your job, and you can let it safely slide with no repercussions. If you have 10 years active in, you know what you REALLY need to do to survive. The reserves aren't active duty by any stretch. 2) learn how to do your job to the best of your own satisfaction at your own pace. Right now, I hear you champing at the bit because people are asking you to do things you don't have training on. That's just fine; do the YN books on NKO on your own time at your own pace. That'll teach you some stuff. Any time you don't know how to do something, research it and its instructions, then do it literally verbatim to the instruction. You will have done it wrong. This is a learning opportunity. You just say "I did it in accordance with OPNAV/NAVINST/NAVADMIN XXX.X(rev J)" and then the person who knows better than you teaches you how to do it right. This is much like the internet: nobody will tell you how to do it, but they'll tell you how you're wrong. 3) If you feel strongly that you're right, stick up for yourself. Do everything important by email. This is so you don't forget this is so you have proof when someone's screwing you later, and you can hold their face to the fire for it.. You will get tasked with doing things you don't know how to do, with no training, and then get crapped on for screwing it up. That's cool. You do the best you can, or at least the best you want to do, or possibly the best you're willing to make time for. The whole system is penalty-free. You keep doing PFAs, attending drills, and not failing your exams and they can't kick you out! Good luck, and godspeed. Figure out how to get a 45-day AT/EAT/IDTT and only come to the drill center four periods per year (two exams, two PFAs).
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Thanks for the responses. I've cooled off a bit since that rant but I'm still upset about the whole thing. I feel like the proper disclaimer is "I'm not clean in all this. I could have done a few things better/more efficiently/advised the CoC earlier." End of the day, the right course is just doing what I can and documenting everything which is Navy 101. It baffles me that an organization that is theoretically responsible for 1/3 the bullshit is somehow more messed up.
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Fangthane posted:Thanks for the responses. I've cooled off a bit since that rant but I'm still upset about the whole thing. I feel like the proper disclaimer is "I'm not clean in all this. I could have done a few things better/more efficiently/advised the CoC earlier." End of the day, the right course is just doing what I can and documenting everything which is Navy 101. It baffles me that an organization that is theoretically responsible for 1/3 the bullshit is somehow more messed up. The problem with NOSC from what I can tell is they seem to be half staffed with broken people who don’t seem to care. I put in 70 days at a NOSC last summer and boy howdy the command had some hard cases to try to get work out of. Seemed like half the staff was either pregnant, recovering from pregnancy or dudes who looked like they were in their 3rd trimester. Good ol shore duty dumping ground. It wasn’t all bad their were certainly some outstanding people but they would have shined wherever they went.
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Fangthane posted:Thanks for the responses. I've cooled off a bit since that rant but I'm still upset about the whole thing. I feel like the proper disclaimer is "I'm not clean in all this. I could have done a few things better/more efficiently/advised the CoC earlier." End of the day, the right course is just doing what I can and documenting everything which is Navy 101. It baffles me that an organization that is theoretically responsible for 1/3 the bullshit is somehow more messed up. Ket's Guide to Why the Reserves Are Silly and You Should Not Care Whenever I joined the Reserves, I had the assumption I would be doing something related to anything in my field. Instead, I was an EMN1 assigned to a cargo handling battalion. For the first 6 months, no one was really sure what to do with me and I mainly just hung around playing on my phone. Eventually, someone figured out I was really good at PowerPoint so I made briefings for the CO. Because of that, I gradually migrated into an admin role. Once I had that figured out, I knocked everything out in the first hour or so of drill day and literally spent the entire remainder of the weekend doing homework for college. No one cared because our metrics were good once I figured out how to get everything looking pristine in each database. By the second year, I was consider indispensable because I did a solid hour of work a month in Excel using formulas, conditional formatting, etc. My first AT was going to a random school where they taught me how to load munitions onto cargo slings. I guess it was ok? My 2nd 2 week AT was spent standing exactly 2 firewatches for a total of about 8 hours. I got some nice letter for it from some chief in the shipyard. The Reserves spent thousands of dollars sending me across the country to sit on a ship for 8 hours as an E-6 and watch a wall. I mainly hung around downtown Norfolk and visited people. I ended up meeting grover during this adventure and got to go inside Groverhaus. It didn't collapse on me so that's a win. Eventually, I got a job that required me to frequently work weekends. I stressed out over this and eventually approached my LCPO about going IRR. He didn't care and immediately approved a special request chit for it. He forgot to route it for 6 months and someone found it in a desk when they were looking for something else. I got a funny phonecall about it a few months before my contract was up anyway. And thus ended my Navy career.
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