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OSX is still the most stable operating system I have ever used. That alone makes Jobs better than Musk. Despite Jobs being a sociopath who made overpriced products.
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Zoran posted:That’s unfair. Steve Jobs had at least a working understanding of what is physically possible, cared about actual product quality, and had the decency to devote most of his sociopathic power of self-delusion toward killing himself with juice cleanses. imo jobs should have given himself worms to eat the cancer
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https://twitter.com/MsKellyMHayes/status/1006957004034887680 This may have been posted already but I missed it
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Phone posted:teslas are explicitly cars for children Power wheels for incels.
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check out this thread https://twitter.com/forecasterenten/status/1007051416915963904?s=21 klobuhar vilsack and o malley lmao https://twitter.com/davidagordon9/status/1007052848733945856?s=21
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:Power wheels for incels. lol
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i know there's tesla to talk about, but tom perez is going to bar superdelegates from voting in the first round at the convention and a bunch of elected officials are pissed i'd rather do away with them entirely but the chances we have an exciting convention just went up
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:What does the "first" round consist of? the bound delegates vote for their candidate, so we'll already know how that vote plays out. second round kicks in and people either unify or things go to poo poo the 2020 field is about as open as we've seen sine 2004
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:wow hard to imagine why dems won’t support these extremely popular policies
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Y'all will unite behind Bernie if he's the leader going into the convention, right? I mean, we got behind Hillary (even though she didn't want us) -- it's just a shame she didn't want to be president enough to, you know, loving campaign for it and all.
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Aliquid posted:the bound delegates vote for their candidate, so we'll already know how that vote plays out. second round kicks in and people either unify or things go to poo poo So what are the circumstances that require a second round? In 2016, did it go to a second round? I really didn't pay much attention to the actual convention.
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A second round of delegate voting happens if no candidate gets 50%+ of the votes in the first round. The last time this happened was 1952.
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:So what are the circumstances that require a second round? getting a time machine to go back to the 50s/60s when the primary process was an absolute clusterfuck compared to today's
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emdash posted:Not only that, thousands of people reserved their chance to pay 40k (or much more, practically speaking, because it's even more poo poo as a whole with no options and because Tesla says they're losing money on the base model) literally a year in advance Is it just that the electric engine and battery cost a whole lot? I imagine most of the car outside of that shouldn't be fundamentally different from other cars, if not for the stupid decisions of Musk, so I'm not sure why it was so difficult for him to push the price point down from the higher end models to the Model 3.
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Joementum posted:A second round of delegate voting happens if no candidate gets 50%+ of the votes in the first round. So then this rule essentially removes super delegates?
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GalacticAcid posted:https://twitter.com/MsKellyMHayes/status/1006957004034887680 Please tell me Rahm won't be reelected
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:So then this rule essentially removes super delegates? barring some fantastical situation that results in a three way split, yes
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actually even if that happens it still removes super delegates because all delegates become free in the second round
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Joementum posted:A second round of delegate voting happens if no candidate gets 50%+ of the votes in the first round. forgot, can a candidate go: "give all of my pledged delegates to biden" or something?
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anime was right posted:forgot, can a candidate go: "give all of my pledged delegates to biden" or something? after round 1, yes
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Raskolnikov38 posted:after round 1, yes ok cool so its basically "whoever wins" followed by "absolute clusterfuck where chaos reigns supreme" perfect
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anime was right posted:forgot, can a candidate go: "give all of my pledged delegates to biden" or something? The way the rules work now: if the candidate drops out the delegates become unpledged. I don't think Perez has clarified if, under his proposal, this would mean they couldn't vote until round two or (more likely) they just remain bound to their original candidate.
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CNN/MSNBC will still count the SDs in their charts regardless of the rule change.
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Aliquid posted:i know there's tesla to talk about, but tom perez is going to bar superdelegates from voting in the first round at the convention and a bunch of elected officials are pissed Whoa
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so perez did a decent thing still shoulda gotten rid of them entirely but eh good on him.
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Agean90 posted:so perez did a decent thing I'm fairly content with this I guess
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If super delegates still pledge and the media still reports it in delegate totals it does not practically change anything
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Matt Zerella posted:CNN/MSNBC will still count the SDs in their charts regardless of the rule change. I think this change might prompt them to at least keep two counts. But they'll still do stuff like inaccurately report that the Iowa precinct caucuses bind delegates.
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Yeah the superdelegates' actual votes haven't mattered but letting them still be "delegates" is still going to lead to Biden having a "600 delegate lead" in September 2019.
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Shear Modulus posted:Yeah the superdelegates' actual votes haven't mattered but letting them still be "delegates" is still going to lead to Biden having a "600 delegate lead" in September 2019. very doubtful. there won't be any push to clear the field, like there was for clinton, and most elected and dnc superdelegates will stay on the sidelines until they see how the first few primaries shake out and which of their friends is doing well.
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Uncle Wemus posted:Please tell me Rahm won't be reelected when’s he up for re-election and is anybody substantial challenging him?
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Aliquid posted:i know there's tesla to talk about, but tom perez is going to bar superdelegates from voting in the first round at the convention and a bunch of elected officials are pissed tom perez doesn't have that power. he can recommend it, but first the rules & bylaws committee has to pass it (june 30), then the delegates to the dnc vote on it in august. and it's changed a bit: quote:After more than three hours of debate, most committee members seemed satisfied with a "third way plus" plan that would only let superdelegates vote on the first ballot for president if the outcome is already predetermined by the pledged delegates. and there are still party cranks who are vociferously opposed.
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anyway just looking forward to the dems whiging themselves somehow at the 2020 dnc
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after that we can get our pesky civil war over with where mexico and canada help maybe idk and somehow drug lords become the president of new texas that makes about as much sense as anything else these days
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anime was right posted:after that we can get our pesky civil war over with where mexico and canada help maybe idk and somehow drug lords become the president of new texas idk how the 2nd civil war ends all i know is that if if live through it its because i didnt do enough
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:Y'all will unite behind Bernie if he's the leader going into the convention, right? I mean, we got behind Hillary (even though she didn't want us) -- it's just a shame she didn't want to be president enough to, you know, loving campaign for it and all. the #resistance definitely won't
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