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Rockopolis
Dec 21, 2012

I MAKE FUN OF QUEER STORYGAMES BECAUSE I HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO WITH MY LIFE THAN MAKE OTHER PEOPLE CRY

I can't understand these kinds of games, and not getting it bugs me almost as much as me being weird

ChubbyChecker posted:

A language has an army and a navy.
Is that why Austrian is a German dialect?

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ChubbyChecker
Mar 25, 2018

Rockopolis posted:

Is that why Austrian is a German dialect?

Correct.

Nuclear War
Nov 7, 2012

You're a pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty girl

Platystemon posted:

What are some things you notice because of your education that annoy you?

Everyone butchers Latin, for example.

I bet Warhammer 40k latinesque could kill him and half his grad school cohort with a single book

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

FOPTIMUS PRIME

ChubbyChecker posted:

A language has an army and a navy.

saxon was a sovereign tongue back when the ddr was its own country, a good post

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

FOPTIMUS PRIME

Nuclear War posted:

I bet Warhammer 40k latinesque could kill him and half his grad school cohort with a single book

he doesn't like latin, he would think it's no great loss.

i, on the other hand, twitch a little whenever i read it

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Rockopolis posted:

Is that why Austrian is a German dialect?

I've been saying for a while the Swiss should have a riverine navy

Trin Tragula
Apr 22, 2005

HEY GUNS posted:

saxon was a sovereign tongue back when the ddr was its own country, a good post

And the Volksmarine is such a perfect metaphor for Saxon, too :v:

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

FOPTIMUS PRIME

Milo and POTUS posted:

I've been saying for a while the Swiss should have a riverine navy

fear the czech navy

fear it

Elyv
Jun 14, 2013




is Mongolian a language

Rockopolis
Dec 21, 2012

I MAKE FUN OF QUEER STORYGAMES BECAUSE I HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO WITH MY LIFE THAN MAKE OTHER PEOPLE CRY

I can't understand these kinds of games, and not getting it bugs me almost as much as me being weird

Milo and POTUS posted:

I've been saying for a while the Swiss should have a riverine navy
SSBNs in Lake Geneva?

ChubbyChecker
Mar 25, 2018

Elyv posted:

is Mongolian a language

Why of course! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolian_Armed_Forces#Naval_Force

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

ChubbyChecker posted:

A language has an army and a navy.

I mean, Saxony had the former within living memory (just) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Saxon_Army

And in any case if you need a proper navy, what's Icelandic? West Norwegian only somehow much much harder?

Clarence
May 3, 2012

Trin Tragula posted:

ROMANES EUNT DOMUM

It was only a matter of time until somebody went there.

<sad act alert>

Romanes eunt domus.

Corrected to

Romani ite domum.

I may not be able to remember that my car insurance needs renewing, but I can for drat sure remember comedy film and TV scripts in minute detail from 30 years ago. A sad act indeed.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

HEY GUNS posted:

fear the czech navy

fear it

Were there any boat battles on rivers/lakes in the 30yw.

Elyv
Jun 14, 2013




quote:

Since 1997, the navy has been privatized, and offers tours on the lake to cover expenses.[20] It consisted of a single vessel, the "Sukhbaatar III", which is stationed on Lake Khövsgöl, the nation’s largest body of water by volume. The Navy is made up of 7 men, making it the smallest navy in the world.[19][18]

Guess I've learned something today!

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Rockopolis posted:

SSBNs in Lake Geneva?

Also yes.

Tevery Best
Oct 11, 2013

Hewlo Furriend
I'm writing a conference paper about the translation of the Chronicles of Terror materials, which I have posted here before, and I thought I might share a few more. A large (60-page) batch of the Auschwitz testimony is still being processed by the project, so I wanted to post some materials related to the Wola Massacre of 1944, during the Warsaw Uprising.

In 1944, Wola was a burgeoning suburb of Warsaw. Due to its location on the westernmost end of the city, and the fact that the elite Fallschirmjaeger Panzer Division Hermann Goering had recently arrived to be quartered in the nearby Boernerowo barracks, it was quickly lost to the German counterattack, and was subjected to immediate, unbelievably murderous reprisals, with the number of victims estimated between 30 and 65 thousand in the span of a week.

Very, very :nms:.

Józefa Pakulska-Barczowa was a nurse in the Wola Hospital and a survivor of a mass execution.
Wladyslaw Pec spent ten hours on the bottom of a pile of bodies after he was shot as part of a mass execution.
Stanislaw Pętlak ran away from a mass shooting that most likely took all but two members of his family.
Jan Piekarek lives through an execution, then crawls out to see a Dantean hellscape.
Wacław Piórkowski was saved from the execution field by the intervention of a Wehrmacht colonel, but not before seeing the fate of hundreds others.
Stanisław Raczyński and his family hid in their apartment while the rest of the block was shot by the Germans.
Wiktoria Rakoczy saw her husband enter the yard of the Franaszek factory.
Wiesław Rott was the chief of the exhumation group that investigated the ashes found in the Franaszek factory yard. He also exhumed bodies in the Saint Lazarus Hospital (not the same place as the Wola Hospital), the Orthodox cemetery, and a number of other places.
Włodzimierz Włodarski was the economic director of the Saint Stanislaw Hospital and provides a detailed description of the events that took place there.
Inspection report from a number of locations in Wola

I'll post more when I have time.

Tevery Best fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Jun 13, 2018

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

FOPTIMUS PRIME
did you make this website? it's real good-looking

Tevery Best
Oct 11, 2013

Hewlo Furriend
No, it's by the Witold Pilecki Centre for Totalitarian Studies. I just work at translating the documents from time to time.

edit: If I had made it it would not stubbornly default to Polish and force me to fix links all the time

Tevery Best fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Jun 13, 2018

Clarence
May 3, 2012

13th KRRC War Diary, 13th June 1918 posted:

The Battalion paraded at 8.30 a.m. for inspection, and at 9 a.m. moved off under the Command of MAJOR JOHNS to the training ground. Specialists fell out under their instructors and the Battalion trained by Companies.
At 2.30 p.m. the Battalion fell in and marched home while as many Officers as possible borrowed horses and cycles and reconnoitred the crossings of the LA NOYE river.

HorrificExistence
Jun 25, 2017

by Athanatos

Xerxes17 posted:

Working as an EFL teacher does make it kinda funny and clear how messed up English is. But on the other hand basic stuff is really drat basic and due to the fact that we have all these extra bits, the language packs in a bunch of communication redundancy. In comparison, Russian is bullshit hard from the start and never stops being difficult.

My hot take is that Russian is not actually particularly harder to learn than any other language. For English speakers, it is more distant than French, Spanish or German, and thus you have to learn more. This idea also comes from a language ideology held by many Russians that foreigners can never learn to speak Russian "correctly," because Russian is just soo much more complicated than any other language, which in turn leads to a ridiculous underestimation of many foreigner's communicative abilities. Having what would be identified as an accent in English is interpreted as speaking "incorrectly" by many Russians.

My personal theory is that this is due to Russian becoming a lingua franca during the Soviet Union, and thus having a massive influx of foreigners trying to speak russian.

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug
Foreigners can't pronounce ы, a vital and important letter.

Samuel Clemens
Oct 4, 2013

I think we should call the Avengers.

Milo and POTUS posted:

I've been saying for a while the Swiss should have a riverine navy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Armed_Forces#Lakes_flotilla

Gaghskull
Dec 25, 2010

Bearforce1

Boys! Boys! Boys!

Ensign Expendable posted:

Foreigners can't pronounce ы, a vital and important letter.

Well how else are you going pluralize most nouns?

HorrificExistence
Jun 25, 2017

by Athanatos

Gaghskull posted:

Well how else are you going pluralize most nouns?

I think pronouncing it as и is pretty understandable. Most english speakers make fun on people who struggle with -er, -th, -w ect, but they tend to acknowledge them as communicating understandably.

Mr Enderby
Mar 28, 2015

HorrificExistence posted:

My hot take is that Russian is not actually particularly harder to learn than any other language. For English speakers, it is more distant than French, Spanish or German, and thus you have to learn more. This idea also comes from a language ideology held by many Russians that foreigners can never learn to speak Russian "correctly," because Russian is just soo much more complicated than any other language, which in turn leads to a ridiculous underestimation of many foreigner's communicative abilities. Having what would be identified as an accent in English is interpreted as speaking "incorrectly" by many Russians.

My personal theory is that this is due to Russian becoming a lingua franca during the Soviet Union, and thus having a massive influx of foreigners trying to speak russian.

An extremely polyglot friend of mine claims that despite the complex grammar, Russian is objectively the easiest language he has learned, because the pronunciation is regular, and people speak clearly and don't slur or clip words, or have strong regional accents. I've no idea if any of this is true.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Mr Enderby posted:

An extremely polyglot friend of mine claims that despite the complex grammar, Russian is objectively the easiest language he has learned, because the pronunciation is regular, and people speak clearly and don't slur or clip words, or have strong regional accents. I've no idea if any of this is true.

Are you sure there's no slurring with Russians?

HorrificExistence
Jun 25, 2017

by Athanatos

Mr Enderby posted:

An extremely polyglot friend of mine claims that despite the complex grammar, Russian is objectively the easiest language he has learned, because the pronunciation is regular, and people speak clearly and don't slur or clip words, or have strong regional accents. I've no idea if any of this is true.

All of these things exist in in Russian, but again, there is a commonly held language ideology that they do not.

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug

Mr Enderby posted:

An extremely polyglot friend of mine claims that despite the complex grammar, Russian is objectively the easiest language he has learned, because the pronunciation is regular, and people speak clearly and don't slur or clip words, or have strong regional accents. I've no idea if any of this is true.

There noticeable differences in the way people speak between the city and the country. I don't know if I can call it an accent. There are absolutely very defined regional accents, though.

I'd have to disagree with not slurring words, words with several hissing consonants are very commonly slurred. Тысяча becomes тыща more often than not in conversation.

Jamwad Hilder
Apr 18, 2007

surfin usa
I've been told if you speak "correct" Russian you'll actually sound like a Ukrainian but I have no idea if that's true.

Don Gato
Apr 28, 2013

Actually a bipedal cat.
Grimey Drawer

Rockopolis posted:

Is that why Austrian is a German dialect?

It's Pashto no longer a language then?

Squalid
Nov 4, 2008


Slightly related by my Polish friend told me about how in his grandparents village, each week the priest would play a game of poker with the local German officer. The priest would wager the money from the Sunday collection, while the German would stake the lives of local parishioners awaiting execution.

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug

Jamwad Hilder posted:

I've been told if you speak "correct" Russian you'll actually sound like a Ukrainian but I have no idea if that's true.

Ukrainians very noticeably pronounce the G sound as H. That's probably referring to certain regional pronunciations of O as A in various instances. To the west and the north the "proper" O becomes more common.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Squalid posted:

Slightly related by my Polish friend told me about how in his grandparents village, each week the priest would play a game of poker with the local German officer. The priest would wager the money from the Sunday collection, while the German would stake the lives of local parishioners awaiting execution.

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Where could I find the best analysis and accounts regarding the Battle of the Frontiers?

HorrificExistence
Jun 25, 2017

by Athanatos

Mr Enderby posted:

An extremely polyglot friend of mine claims that despite the complex grammar, Russian is objectively the easiest language he has learned, because the pronunciation is regular, and people speak clearly and don't slur or clip words, or have strong regional accents. I've no idea if any of this is true.

Likewise, It's important to note that language ideologies about a specific language being exceptional are really common and basically all false.

"English is a mongrel language!"

"Russian is easy because you just have cases instead of pesky highly ordered syntax!"

"Eskimo(not a language) has 15 gaijillion words for snow!"

"Some word in Japanese means some poetic bullshit"

basically never trust any claims people make about anything

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Grouchio posted:

Where could I find the best analysis and accounts regarding the Battle of the Frontiers?

trin muthafuckin' tragula

no joke, Trin was posting daily article-length blog posts in 2014 about the war early on.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich
So the girlfriend and I are watching 'Hearbreak Ridge' tonight, and she asks me why we were in Korea. I dunno how to really answer her, are there any books we could read together that would help us understand more about why we were in Korea?

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

FOPTIMUS PRIME


we think a lot about galileo, but do we ever think about how brutally his parents owned him

edit: one of those insults is not actually a word, it's from orlando furioso, which the young galileo memorized. imagine calling the inquisition on your son for calling you a name out of his animes.

HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 08:47 on Jun 14, 2018

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feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

My Imaginary GF posted:

So the girlfriend and I are watching 'Hearbreak Ridge' tonight, and she asks me why we were in Korea. I dunno how to really answer her, are there any books we could read together that would help us understand more about why we were in Korea?

Because we/you weren't in China, as I understand it...

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