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Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://twitter.com/tankietakes/status/998569917954908166

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i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Mods change my name to The Lies of Yugoslavia

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Starshark posted:

I'm not sure if this is the right thread to ask, but I've been casting about and haven't found anywhere more appropriate. Are there any good books on hyperinflation? I'm sitting next to an economics student who says it's not linked to printing money and I'm intrigued to say the least.

You can print all the money in the world and it will never make any difference if it's not being circulated in the real economy. The US government made trillions of dollars through quantitative easing, and prices didn't inflate because it was all used to bail out banks and other creditors to buy up all their toxic assets. If all that money just ends up an inert bunch of numbers on a balance sheet then it doesn't affect the real economy.

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

https://twitter.com/AndreaChalupa/status/1006368736323006464

Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!



Reminder that South Korea literally pays immigrants from North Korea to say horrible things happen in North Korea.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-39170614

Infernot
Jul 17, 2015

"A short night wakes me from a dream that seemed so long."
Grimey Drawer
I'm sure there's embellishment by some defectors and disinformation about North Korea, but that doesn't change the fact that it probably does suck rear end to live there unless you're part of the upper levels of government or something.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

the most interesting cases are all the people who defect back to North Korea.

Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!


Infernot posted:

I'm sure there's embellishment by some defectors and disinformation about North Korea, but that doesn't change the fact that it probably does suck rear end to live there unless you're part of the upper levels of government or something.

That's definitely not even marginally close to being a concern for a country who is openly super friendly with Saudi Arabia and Israel.

Yet, suddenly it's a huge concern when it comes to NoKo (it's because it presents a juicy imperialist opportunity).

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

바나 알라 베드

Infernot
Jul 17, 2015

"A short night wakes me from a dream that seemed so long."
Grimey Drawer

Ruzihm posted:

That's definitely not even marginally close to being a concern for a country who is openly super friendly with Saudi Arabia and Israel.

Yet, suddenly it's a huge concern when it comes to NoKo (it's because it presents a juicy imperialist opportunity).

Of course, I didn't mean to imply that South Korea or any other country does care much. But I don't get why there's a conflict with saying that we shouldn't go to war with North Korea and while also stating that North Korea is not good.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

saying North Korea isn’t a great country to live in goes without saying, so there’s not much point in bringing it up.

Morzhovyye
Mar 2, 2013

This Is All That Leftists Need To Know About The "Democratic" People's Republic "Of" Korea

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3wno1yd2E8

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

saying North Korea isn’t a great country to live in goes without saying, so there’s not much point in bringing it up.

It's to troll people like Morzhovyye

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Jeb! Repetition posted:

It's to troll people like Morzhovyye

I didn’t know there were socialist wookiees

Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers

Starshark posted:

I'm not sure if this is the right thread to ask, but I've been casting about and haven't found anywhere more appropriate. Are there any good books on hyperinflation? I'm sitting next to an economics student who says it's not linked to printing money and I'm intrigued to say the least.

AFAIK the standard (post-keynesian/MMT) argument along those lines is that hyperinflation is always preceded by a substantial exogenous shock (occupation of the Ruhr in Weimar, land reform in Zimbabwe etc.), which constrains an economy's productive capacity, leading to unemployment/underemployment, as well as shortages which cause an increase in prices. The state then increases the monetary base as a response in order to compensate for the increased prices and smaller tax base. If the state has debts denominated in a foreign currency or is reliant on imports which it has to buy in a foreign currency, it's in even more trouble.

So the argument is really that the link between hyperinflation and money printing is the opposite of what's commonly assumed, rather than nonexistent.

THS
Sep 15, 2017

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

saying North Korea isn’t a great country to live in goes without saying, so there’s not much point in bringing it up.

especially when at this point it's only being used to fuel militarism

it's like bringing up saddam hussein's atrocities in 2003. the subtext of what you're advocating isn't deep

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

the most interesting cases are all the people who defect back to North Korea.

Got links? I'm not entirely surprised that it happens, but this is the first I'm really hearing of it.

THS
Sep 15, 2017

MizPiz posted:

Got links? I'm not entirely surprised that it happens, but this is the first I'm really hearing of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Korean_defectors#Double_defectors

lol "Half of the North Korean defectors living in South Korea are unemployed."

capitalism loving owns

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

The most interesting case is the guy who's defected back and forth several times in a boat, and I wish I knew more about him because it just ends up sounding like an import/export scheme that all the officials are looking the other way for.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Yandat posted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Korean_defectors#Double_defectors

lol "Half of the North Korean defectors living in South Korea are unemployed."

capitalism loving owns

Look, they have to become productive members of society, otherwise what's the point in liberating them from the place with no human rights?

Make that money!

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Welcome to the Free World. You have the human right to MAKE THAT MONEY BABY. I'M TALKIN GREEN BACKS. DOSH. PAYOLA. MUNNE MUNNE MUNNE!!!!

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Welcome to the Free World. You have the human right to MAKE THAT MONEY BABY. I'M TALKIN GREEN BACKS. DOSH. PAYOLA. MUNNE MUNNE MUNNE!!!!

https://twitter.com/dril/status/568056615355740160?lang=en

Infernot
Jul 17, 2015

"A short night wakes me from a dream that seemed so long."
Grimey Drawer
https://twitter.com/demonicalien666/status/1006732242603954176?s=19

I knew this was going to be in the Pacific Northwest before I even saw it was in Seattle

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014



is that womans last name seriously chalupa

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

great thread debunking this bullshit

https://twitter.com/gbelljnr/status/1006902565206781952

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981


sounds like he stole the proverbial pie off the window shelf

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016
I hate to interrupt but if you want to save the glorious people's republic of SA you should toss Lowtax a few bucks to keep the lights on


https://forums.somethingawful.com/announcement.php?forumid=1

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

AnEdgelord posted:

I hate to interrupt but if you want to save the glorious people's republic of SA you should toss Lowtax a few bucks to keep the lights on


https://forums.somethingawful.com/announcement.php?forumid=1

I don't have any money but godspeed

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
i do have any money and i'm gonig to spend it on drugs!!!

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

maybe he should just reopen the bittorrent forum here since having the biggest torrent forum on the net back in the day raked in a fuckload of cash via registrations

Matt Lindland
Feb 10, 2018

SHUT THE FUCK UP KEVEN

ALSO GJ BUYING A NEW ACCOUNT LIKE A GODDAMN COWARD
YOU USELESS WHITE NOISE POSTER

YOU WILL NOT ESCAPE THE BOLF RAMSHIELD YOU SO RICHLY DESERVE


now with professional animation
I'm very well off and I didn't get that way giving my money to low lifes/.

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

i bought fishmech like 10 custom titles so i've done my part

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Wheeee posted:

maybe he should just reopen the bittorrent forum here since having the biggest torrent forum on the net back in the day raked in a fuckload of cash via registrations

If the forums are going to be shut down anyway he might as well. Nothing to lose

THS
Sep 15, 2017

Karl Barks posted:

i bought fishmech like 10 custom titles so i've done my part

same

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
How did lowtax end up with a hosed up spine anyway

THS
Sep 15, 2017

Posterplegic

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://twitter.com/HeadphoneSpace/status/1006859020244832256?s=19

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

The "we shouldn't have to work after the revolution" mindset is ludicrously infantile.

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003
also if the political organization of workers in the present period cant achieve a demand of 30 hours, then making a demand of 15 hours will be an even weaker call to action and organization because it doesnt align with where consciousness is at. any demand, action, or program that outpaces the current strength of the labor movement by that much is ultraleftism

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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Keynes was also making a lot of bad assumptions, like that we'd all be collecting dividends from capital markets and that the TRPF wouldn't be compelling us to work longer hours despite ourselves.

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