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Dapper_Swindler posted:probaly. also there are humanoid baddy NPCs. super mutants and ghouls survivors that formed a faction. https://pcgamesn.com/fallout-76-scorched they said the Scorched are just ghouls that hadn't gone feral yet, and it wouldn't make sense for there to be super mutants anyways
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Complain that we can't do mutants right well no more mutants.
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Bethesda what have u done
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I gotta admit, I kinda liked this thread more when there were ~20 posts a day and we complained about games that were already out. Anyway. Is there no truly happy ending to Honest Hearts? I was all for evacuation until I read all of the survivalist's journals, and that changed my position to war, with the caveat that Salt-Upon-Wounds would have to die in honorable combat instead of execution. But I still wonder whether I made the right choice. I think the Legion would have caught up with the Sorrows and Dead Horses no matter where they ran, and I don't abide by fascists and indiscriminate murderers, but maybe the White Legs would have collapsed after I invariably murdered Caesar/Lanius, and never would have been an issue. Maybe Daniel was right, and subjecting a normally peaceful tribe to the horrors of war over a piece of land was wrong. The two surviving tribes never unite and even come to blows if they stay in Zion. Maybe Graham was bloodthirsty, and his redemption can't come about through even more bloodshed. Maybe there's no such thing as a righteous war. I think that's something magical about New Vegas writing. It really forces you to live in the world and consider your decisions, not because there's a good and evil option, but because there's often neither. Or a justifiable evil vs a painful good. There's just consequence and your own interpretation. Not all of the time; I turn a very skeptical eye towards anyone who unironically argues "LEGION ACTUALLY GOOD" but the fact that a decision I made in my least favorite DLC still bothers me in some small way hours after the fact is testament to the writing in this game.
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daniel came off as very well-meaning but naive who put too much stock into some romantic idea of the peaceful noble savage instead of the situation actually in front of him it's been a long time since i played through honest hearts though so my opinion might change if i did it again
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daniel is milquetoast liberalism, graham is juche.
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Autism Sneaks posted:they said the Scorched are just ghouls that hadn't gone feral yet, and it wouldn't make sense for there to be super mutants anyways well i saw Super mutants in the gameplay. Brother Entropy posted:daniel came off as very well-meaning but naive who put too much stock into some romantic idea of the peaceful noble savage instead of the situation actually in front of him the Sorrows and Dead Horses and the white legs, i assumed they were descended from tourists or something, right? i havent played it in years and i need to get back into it again someday. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 05:43 on Jun 14, 2018 |
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Jun 14, 2018 05:40
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Donovan Trip posted:Fallout tactics is a great game yeah
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Jun 14, 2018 05:40
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Vault 87 is only 50ish miles away from West Virginia, along the Potomac River also. It's not a stretch that some number of super mutants followed the river looking for food/shelter/phat lewts (aka more FEV.)
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I just wanna wander around a huge rear end map and shoot at pubbies, is that so much to ask? Also, being able to make Trump Tower/Fort Kickass/Scrap Metal Maze/Huge Dong and bounce between servers would be super nice.
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Jun 14, 2018 05:48
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Finally watching the doc and rofl at Howard bitching about people asking them to actually think through the consequences and effects the mechanics will have on players in a public online game.
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deathbagel posted:Vault 87 is only 50ish miles away from West Virginia, along the Potomac River also. It's not a stretch that some number of super mutants followed the river looking for food/shelter/phat lewts (aka more FEV.) Right, I forgot Vault 87 super mutants were as old as the Great War. They suck though 
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Autism Sneaks posted:Right, I forgot Vault 87 super mutants were as old as the Great War. They suck though Fawkes will be a companion in 76. He'll eventually let you die to completely avoidable radiation
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deathbagel posted:Vault 87 is only 50ish miles away from West Virginia, along the Potomac River also. It's not a stretch that some number of super mutants followed the river looking for food/shelter/phat lewts (aka more FEV.) The mutants we saw in the footage were Fallout 4-style green mutants though. They did not look like the mutants from the Capital Wasteland. And the mutants in the Capital Wasteland seemingly started pushing outside their Vault more and more as FEV dwindled, which shouldn't be a problem 25 years after the War. I'm expecting the worst, frankly: another FEV strain, which apparently everyone pre-War actually possessed.
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Fair Bear Maiden posted:The mutants we saw in the footage were Fallout 4-style green mutants though. They did not look like the mutants from the Capital Wasteland. please don't over think this
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Riatsala posted:I gotta admit, I kinda liked this thread more when there were ~20 posts a day and we complained about games that were already out. You get a better ending for Graham and a better ending in general if you let Salt-Upon-Wounds go. It helps Graham realize "Aw hell, this is a noble cause and all, but the truth is I've been using this whole thing as an excuse to commit unnecessary violence beyond what was needed because I've never actually dealt with all the anger I have inside me. I need learn how to chill and make peace with myself and the world because I don't want this hatred burning inside of me for the rest of my life." Except he says all that in a better and prettier way, it's very heartwarming.
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Autism Sneaks posted:they said the Scorched are just ghouls that hadn't gone feral yet, and it wouldn't make sense for there to be super mutants anyways There were super mutants in the E3 video. Lazy, copied directly from FO4 models super mutants.
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Liquid Communism posted:There were super mutants in the E3 video. Lazy, copied directly from FO4 models super mutants. Fallout 2 is built almost entirely from recycled fallout 1 assets. I can think of dozens of games that do this. Is there some reason it's worse here?
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Donovan Trip posted:Fallout 2 is built almost entirely from recycled fallout 1 assets. I can think of dozens of games that do this. Is there some reason it's worse here? Well according to the Fallout 1 holy book,
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Bulkiest Toaster posted:Doesn't this whole game really feel like a suit at Bethesda had a meeting asking why one of their biggest IPs didn't have an online installment. Fallout 76 is pretty much the result. A side project/experiment to put out in the interim before Starfield and Elderscrolls VI hit. "The current engine doesn't support it and the effort involved in retrofitting that capability is hard to justify" tends to be as solid an answer as any. "Then use a different one" tends to be a solid response when you've got a well written network multiplayer game engine like idTech. To my understanding the higher ups at Zenimax want more use of that engine across their studios so it's killing two birds with one stone. This just feels like it's deep, deep in white whale territory.
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1337JiveTurkey posted:"The current engine doesn't support it and the effort involved in retrofitting that capability is hard to justify" tends to be as solid an answer as any. "Then use a different one" tends to be a solid response when you've got a well written network multiplayer game engine like idTech. To my understanding the higher ups at Zenimax want more use of that engine across their studios so it's killing two birds with one stone. This just feels like it's deep, deep in white whale territory. You are aware that this game runs on the same engine as Fallout 4, right?
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Fair Bear Maiden posted:You are aware that this game runs on the same engine as Fallout 4, right? I do. What I'm saying is that adding network multiplayer to the existing Gamebryo-derivative engine by way of patching in the idTech network code is not a conventional order from above. If they're going to spend that much effort modifying a game engine due to corporate orders from above, the most reasonable engine to modify is the one that corporate senior management is promoting in the first place. And if that's too much effort, I'd expect them to drop the proposal entirely.
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Also, Zenimax is a privately held company founded by Bethesda people, so it doesn't seem to have the same issues as most of the big triple A game companies. They seem to be content to trust Bethesda to do their own thing, and will most likely continue to as long as they keep making bank.
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1337JiveTurkey posted:I do. What I'm saying is that adding network multiplayer to the existing Gamebryo-derivative engine by way of patching in the idTech network code is not a conventional order from above. If they're going to spend that much effort modifying a game engine due to corporate orders from above, the most reasonable engine to modify is the one that corporate senior management is promoting in the first place. And if that's too much effort, I'd expect them to drop the proposal entirely. I misinterpreted your post then, sorry.
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Methylethylaldehyde posted:I just wanna wander around a huge rear end map and shoot at pubbies, is that so much to ask? Howl's moving Huge Dong! Is it a myth? This summer the Huge Dong comes, will you be ready to experience the magic?
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If we really caring about lore or whatever color the mutants are I think that horse left the barn a real long time ago.
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steinrokkan posted:The deep quests in the mobs respawing machine. The final boss of Fallout 76 is the guy who refills the Nuka-Cola machines across the country
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Vinylshadow posted:The final boss of Fallout 76 is the guy who refills the Nuka-Cola machines across the country We take over or become a companion to this lone wandering hero?
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Are there any answers about how your account for 76 will work? Do you make a Bethesda whatever account and have your character stored completely server-side?
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Poniard posted:Are there any answers about how your account for 76 will work? Do you make a Bethesda whatever account and have your character stored completely server-side? the inner workings of this game are a mystery, even to Bethesda
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I believe it e: I have a whole bunch of technical questions for no reason but I know they won't be answered until the game is out and people have datamined and reverse engineered everything Poniard fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Jun 14, 2018 |
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Why do people think suits forced Bethesda to make this game? Isn’t it possible they just thought it would be a good fun game?
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marktheando posted:Why do people think suits forced Bethesda to make this game? Isn’t it possible they just thought it would be a good fun game?
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Multimillion dollar companies do not make products because they think they are fun.
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Multimillion dollar companies make games because Todd thinks they are fun
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marktheando posted:Why do people think suits forced Bethesda to make this game? Isn’t it possible they just thought it would be a good fun game? I wish I could find it but a long time ago a game very much like 76 was suggested to be the new fallout after 3 and even some similar ideas were floated around. I think this has been on Bethesda's mind for a long time and now the market is better able to receive it. Small scale mmo-like games such as PUBG and Rust and Etc have created a niche that was previously not mainstream enough. Anyway my two cents doesn't buy poo poo so I could be wrong and everything is terrible.
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steinrokkan posted:Multimillion dollar companies do not make products because they think they are fun. Then why are they making this game? It’s not like Ark and Rust type games are actually that popular, they are early access poo poo that aren’t mainstream at all.
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Rinkles posted:I'm not going to invest time into something designed around micro transactions. I've heard it's fine at first but eventually progress becomes painfully slow without spending money. I have never even thought about paying for anything while playing Fallout Shelter. It's certainly a standard time/resource game, but it's a mystery to me how it's profitable. The only reason you would want to is if you're super impatient. You can easily play for an hour or two each day and have plenty to do, especially if you break it up into a few chunks of time rather than all at once. Put it on a tablet and dork around with it whenever you have 20 minutes of free time.
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Kaal posted:I have never even thought about paying for anything while playing Fallout Shelter. It's certainly a standard time/resource game, but it's a mystery to me how it's profitable. The only reason you would want to is if you're super impatient. You can easily play for an hour or two each day and have plenty to do, especially if you break it up into a few chunks of time rather than all at once. I don't think timer-based gameplay's for me either.
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