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could Luigi's duck avoid projectiles before?Oxyclean posted:They had a 3DS demo for Smash 4 and I think they even said on Treehouse they might put out the E3 demo. given the roster that they had just for the demo, that would be crazy. A demo with Mewtwo, Ridley, Inkling is nuts
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DLC Inc posted:could Luigi's duck avoid projectiles before? Yeah, thinking about it now, maybe they mean in a kiosk/demo station capacity like they had for the last Smash?
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DLC Inc posted:could Luigi's duck avoid projectiles before? yes. in tournament sets luigis will go up towards Fox while crouching to duck under his lasers.
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ganondorf in ultimate looks fuckin tight as hell https://twitter.com/narcissawright/status/1007436440530087936?s=21
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Ganondorf has had a long goddamn road since being a very lame Melee clone. better qualities for each special move, long range smashes with a sword, and going from a beefed up dad bod to the ripped motherfucker he is now. He got better and better with each iteration. The balances right now look extremely good in terms of nerfing crazy poo poo and buffing the lower-end people like Mewtwo/Ganondorf
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DLC Inc posted:Ganondorf has had a long goddamn road since being a very lame Melee clone. better qualities for each special move, long range smashes with a sword, and going from a beefed up dad bod to the ripped motherfucker he is now. He got better and better with each iteration. The balances right now look extremely good in terms of nerfing crazy poo poo and buffing the lower-end people like Mewtwo/Ganondorf mewtwo is one of the best characters in smash 4, but that was after buffs. im hoping he gets nerfed in this new game, hes obnoxious being able to tilt out of dash is going to make him insane though
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i hope they make every character obnoxious so people can't ever complain again that being said https://imgur.com/lH3XD3E
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that veterans E3 video makes Ganon look crazy strong but the buffs to Link are great too. Boomerang and sword beam have really great range and the downstab recovery is much faster. Game on the whole seems quicker and more oriented to offensive play. Seeing Zero take someone like Mario to the finals was encouraging; maybe the majority of the roster is actually tourney viable now if they nerf 2 or 3 of the more batshit people like Bayonetta (which I'm sure Sakurai saw)
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DLC Inc posted:that veterans E3 video makes Ganon look crazy strong but the buffs to Link are great too. Boomerang and sword beam have really great range and the downstab recovery is much faster. Game on the whole seems quicker and more oriented to offensive play. Seeing Zero take someone like Mario to the finals was encouraging; maybe the majority of the roster is actually tourney viable now if they nerf 2 or 3 of the more batshit people like Bayonetta (which I'm sure Sakurai saw) Really glad to hear Link is strong this time around. I love his BotW design and I'm going to want to play as him and remote bomb people all day. As for Bayonetta, someone on Twitter noted that Sakurai saw some of the bullshit players did with her and was seen shaking his head, so he's definitely aware there's more nerfing to do.
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computer, enhance 
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IronicDongz posted:computer, enhance Knowing Nintendo, this is definitely intentional. I’m so excited to play as Daisy. I’m so excited to play as everyone. 
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DLC Inc posted:Ganondorf has had a long goddamn road since being a very lame Melee clone. ganondorgf wwas one of my favoritre characters to play in melee 
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Yea he's a great melee clone and has been worse in every iteration till now
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Kaubocks posted:ganondorgf wwas one of my favoritre characters to play in melee there were a lot of bad characters in Melee. I loved playing Bowser who was also really loving bad in Melee so in Smash 4 seeing him get much better was a joy. Seeing people say this is a big step forward into Melee sensibility but keeping with the balance of Smash4 is interesting since it's feeling like a big Melee reclamation project, i.e. Ice Climbers returns, Ganon/Mewtwo/Dr. Mario/Zelda getting significant changes, bringing back Pichu
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DLC Inc posted:there were a lot of bad characters in Melee. Ness  I still play him and Lucas all the time because I love those little dudes DLC Inc posted:Seeing people say this is a big step forward into Melee sensibility but keeping with the balance of Smash4 is interesting since it's feeling like a big Melee reclamation project, i.e. Ice Climbers returns, Ganon/Mewtwo/Dr. Mario/Zelda getting significant changes, bringing back Pichu Some of the reactions I've seen really highlight how dogmatic the Melee community still is. There's a rather vocal contingent that has a "no wavedashing = it's trash" attitude towards it. For an even weirder take, I've seen a few people on Reddit and Twitter insist that they don't care how many techniques or movement options the developers intentionally put in--what really counts are exploitable, unintended tricks, because that's where real depth comes from. Harrow fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Jun 15, 2018 |
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it's not real depth unless it literally damages your hands
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really i just want there to be combos in smash ultimate but that already seems unlikely but i'm not that concerned because i've got six months to get over it
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Ness is good and strong and my friend
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DLC Inc posted:that veterans E3 video makes Ganon look crazy strong but the buffs to Link are great too. Boomerang and sword beam have really great range and the downstab recovery is much faster. Game on the whole seems quicker and more oriented to offensive play. Seeing Zero take someone like Mario to the finals was encouraging; maybe the majority of the roster is actually tourney viable now if they nerf 2 or 3 of the more batshit people like Bayonetta (which I'm sure Sakurai saw)
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I might like Lucas better than Ness just for the presence of my friend Rope Snake, who lacks confidence but really tries his best 
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Kaubocks posted:really i just want there to be combos in smash ultimate but that already seems unlikely but i'm not that concerned because i've got six months to get over it its not looking that way but it looks a hell of a lot better than 4
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bef posted:its not looking that way but it looks a hell of a lot better than 4 yea this is more or less where i'm at at the moment "a more aggressive smash 4" is already leaps and bounds better than how defensive smash 4 was lol
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I'm okay with there not being a lot of combos because I'm a normal human being that enjoys interacting with other human beings
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There will always be those who find execution challenges fun, and Melee will always be the Smash for them, because it has those challenges, albeit apparently on accident.
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i hope every character has multiple safe ways to confirm a ko when their opponent is at a high percent
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a lot of treehouse matches looked like they had legit combo setups for characters like zelda, link, ganon, pac-man. almost everyone got a buff to their speed or recovery, though Bayonetta already got a few nerfs for things that could combo into other things (not nerfed enough though, apparently) Like it's never gonna be the broken twitchiness of Melee and there are checks and balances in place against wavedash stuff like "dodge decay" or whatever but that's for the best
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the combos that mkleo was doing to plup were super hosed up lmao. he does like 4 different midair jumps in a single combo it's hilarious
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Bleck posted:it's not real depth unless it literally damages your hands Baby games  Your mechanics don't have true depth unless you can only reliably activate them using a gamecube controller that has a manufacturing defect.
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Bleck posted:I'm okay with there not being a lot of combos because I'm a normal human being that enjoys interacting with other human beings it's not like i want inescapable 0-to-death combos (ironically smash 64 is probably my favorite smash lol) it's just... i like the freeform combo nature of smash a lot, and the enemy has a lot of influence to try and get out of a combo, and then you gotta predict and tech chase and... melee was satisfying as gently caress smash brawl/4 i felt was very... you just hit them once and there was no real follow up at all. it was just a war of attrition of single hits until you eventually die near 200%. it just never felt like there was a lot of room for creativity.
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more casual post: i hope smash ultimate finally means we get this song in high definition https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwKvxrlJB-M
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Cicadas! posted:Do you think Pichu will still be a joke character? Maybe Pichu will do more damage than Pikachu but the recoil will balance it out?
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Pichu will be top tier.
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Kaubocks posted:more casual post: i hope smash ultimate finally means we get this song in high definition re: music: GOD i hope ultimate will still hve the option to fine-tune exactly how often a song will play on any given stage, i sunk an afternoon just doing that for hours on 4 because i'm a weirdo but i loved it
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what I wish 4 had and hope this has is a button to just pick a song when you pick the stage. in addition to the random mix stuff.
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Kaubocks posted:it's just... i like the freeform combo nature of smash a lot, and the enemy has a lot of influence to try and get out of a combo, and then you gotta predict and tech chase and... melee was satisfying as gently caress I really like strings, but not combos, you know? I think you should be able to follow up on attacks, but I think there shouldn't be as much guaranteed, inescapable followups, 'cause then you get dumb stuff like Bayonetta in Smash 4 or a game as inaccessible as Melee
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I only have like a surface level grasp of competitive Smash, but can I ask why Smash 4 has been referred to as a "defensive" game?
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