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The Mighty Moltres posted:"We can dress real neat from our hats to our feet and surprise them with the victory cry." They named the band before they got hats, and by then they already had business cards printed, so they had to keep it that way
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Also consider that Men Who Sometimes Wear Hats If The Occasion Calls For It doesn't really work as a band name.
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Jun 13, 2018 14:29
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It says they CAN dress real neat. They probably chose not to!
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Jun 13, 2018 15:03
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The song is like If I Were a Rich Man from Fiddler on the Roof. They're dreaming about what they would do if they had hats, and it's rather cruel of you to point out that they don't.
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Jun 13, 2018 15:12
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I realized I'd never watched the video for "Safety Dance," so I did, and my god there is a lot of headwear present, up to and including a pair of chicken masks
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Jun 13, 2018 15:26
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Pastry of the Year posted:I realized I'd never watched the video for "Safety Dance," so I did, and my god there is a lot of headwear present, up to and including a pair of chicken masks mask : hat :: hotdog : sandwich
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Jun 13, 2018 16:58
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Captain Monkey posted:mask : hat :: hotdog : sandwich That doesn't work, because masks are better than hats, not the other way around.
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Jun 13, 2018 18:52
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Metal Geir Skogul posted:That doesn't work, because masks are better than hats, not the other way around. Oh my god what have you done.
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Metal Geir Skogul posted:That doesn't work, because masks are better than hats, not the other way around. What about a ski mask, which is both a mask AND a hat?
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Jun 13, 2018 21:54
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Besesoth posted:What about a ski mask, which is both a mask AND a hat? 
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too ribwich-like
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Captain Monkey posted:mask : hat :: hotdog : sandwich So the same thing?
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Jun 13, 2018 22:59
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Of course Star Wars was a long time ago. If it was in a galaxy far, far away it would take millions of years for the light to reach us.
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Hyperlynx posted:Of course Star Wars was a long time ago. If it was in a galaxy far, far away it would take millions of years for the light to reach us. This could easily be a Neil DeGrasse Tyson tweet.
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I only just found out Star Wars is a documentary. I thought it was fictional all along.
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Nnnyes, a documentary  nnn
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Bertrand Hustle posted:This could easily be a Neil DeGrasse Tyson tweet.  the element inspector in your browser is fun
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Besesoth posted:the element inspector in your browser is fun
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Jun 15, 2018 21:25
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Works a treat on "please disable your ad blocker" requests too
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A guy I know apparently just had a big argument with someone over the definition of the word "several" because he was dead sure it meant "seven-ish".
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:A guy I know apparently just had a big argument with someone over the definition of the word "several" because he was dead sure it meant "seven-ish". I've had that happen to fiveral friends
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Krankenstyle posted:I've had that happen to fiveral friends lol
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Growing up, the phrase "a couple of -blank-" says meant more than two, less than five. Turns out it was just my family, and to all rational people, a couple means two. I still have a habit of using it to mean a handful or less. I was also taught that a moment had a very strict, specific definition of 90 seconds. No more, no less. Thanks, Baltimore public schools! (See also spending all of Kindergarten and First learning the vowels as A,E,I,O,U, Sometimes Y, and Sometimes W, then spending the next year learning that your first teachers were stupid assholes.)
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Jun 18, 2018 11:31
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What the gently caress is sometimes W in English.
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Jun 18, 2018 14:26
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bamhand posted:What the gently caress is sometimes W in English. In words like 'low' the w makes up the second part of the diphthong. Letters themselves aren't actually 'vowels' they're just letters, but rather the sound you make is the 'vowel sound'. Source - https://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/when-is-w-a-vowel
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I definitely learned a “couple” was any indeterminate amount more than one and whose upper bound was based on size. It took forever to learn it just meant 2 and then I stopped using it because if I know how many I need Ill just get that many you couple using weirdos
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Jun 18, 2018 14:34
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That's the first I hear of "a couple of things" having a specific number attached. I mean I'm not a native speaker, but I'd never think twice about this being basically synonymous with "a few".
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Jun 18, 2018 14:41
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A married couple is not 3-5 people though
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Jun 18, 2018 14:44
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Captain Monkey posted:In words like 'low' the w makes up the second part of the diphthong. Letters themselves aren't actually 'vowels' they're just letters, but rather the sound you make is the 'vowel sound'. So is L also a vowel then?
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I just checked the Oxford, Cambridge and Merriam-Webster dictionaries and they all defined it as "two or a few" or "an indefinite small number" in the context of numbers of objects.purple death ray posted:A married couple is not 3-5 people though Words can have different meanings in different contexts.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:I just checked the Oxford, Cambridge and Merriam-Webster dictionaries and they all defined it as "two or a few" or "an indefinite small number" in the context of numbers of objects. The people who believes it only means two are agressive. Its happened to me a couple of times where someone interupted me mid sentence to point that out.
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bamhand posted:So is L also a vowel then? Sometimes, yeah. http://www.dictionary.com/e/w-vowel/
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Barudak posted:The people who believes it only means two are agressive. Its happened to me a couple of times where someone interupted me mid sentence to point that out. Yeah I know those people. You can point out to them that every dictionary says they're wrong but they still won't accept it, or they'll back out of the argument with something like "Ugh, whatever, I'm bored of talking about!" it rather than admitting they were wrong and then the next time it comes up in conversation they'll go back to their original claim.
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Well the truth is that neither party is right. Clinging to dictionary definitions of words is essentially admitting that you've lost the argument. Language is defined by the people speaking it and there's tons of things in common usage that aren't "right" according to the dictionary. On the other hand I have to admit that it's prescriptive to demand that "a couple" only refers to two things, so I also lose the argument. What I can do is to implore my fellow English speakers to use "a couple" to mean two things, because I personally think that we already have words like "a few" and "a handful," and "couple" is a more useful word to differentiate from other small groups of people/objects than it is as just a synonym for "few". It is confusing when a word is both a synonym for "a pair" and "a few"
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purple death ray posted:Well the truth is that neither party is right. Clinging to dictionary definitions of words is essentially admitting that you've lost the argument. Language is defined by the people speaking it and there's tons of things in common usage that aren't "right" according to the dictionary. On the other hand I have to admit that it's prescriptive to demand that "a couple" only refers to two things, so I also lose the argument. The great error made by prescriptivists is assuming that dictionaries are meant to be an authority. They're not. They're records of common usage. The only thing a dictionary entry means is "this usage is common enough that it meets our criteria for recording it".
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One could say "why does a couple need to mean two when we already have the word two?" though. I think I tend to use couple when it's probably two but I don't know for sure or I don't care too much about the real amount. Like "it happened a couple of years ago" or "pass me a couple of chips". Maybe it was three years, I'm not gonna be mad if you pass me four chips, but the intent was two.
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purple death ray posted:Clinging to dictionary definitions of words is essentially admitting that you've lost the argument. Language is defined by the people speaking it and there's tons of things in common usage that aren't "right" according to the dictionary. On the other hand I have to admit that it's prescriptive to demand that "a couple" only refers to two things, so I also lose the argument. No, no, it's fine. You just say that demanding "a couple" be used to refer only to two things isn't "prescriptivist" because the word "prescriptivist" means "comprised of raw camel flesh". After all, language is defined by the people speaking it!  (More seriously, I get what you're saying but at the same time I feel like sometimes the argument against prescriptivism is an excuse people use to offload the mental work of communication onto the other participant. "I don't have to pay attention to what words are usually understood to mean, you just have to psychically divine what I intend them to mean!")
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The dictionary definition of moot is the opposite of moot. Many dictionaries now literally say literally doesn't mean literally.
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Organza Quiz posted:One could say "why does a couple need to mean two when we already have the word two?" though. I think I tend to use couple when it's probably two but I don't know for sure or I don't care too much about the real amount. Like "it happened a couple of years ago" or "pass me a couple of chips". Maybe it was three years, I'm not gonna be mad if you pass me four chips, but the intent was two. Yeah, it's like a soft 2, or twoish.
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The_White_Crane posted:No, no, it's fine. You just say that demanding "a couple" be used to refer only to two things isn't "prescriptivist" because the word "prescriptivist" means "comprised of raw camel flesh". All I know is I mostly encounter the "words mean things!!" crowd when someone is trying to deny some group of people rights, such as clinging to a dictionary that defines marriage as between a man and a woman, or being extremely literal about racial distinctions so they can deny being huge racists (Islam isn't a race! You're the real bigot!). I wasn't aware of this sort of Dada-esque argument in favor of prescriptivism but I would say that the person in your post would be very bad at communicating if they ever actually existed. I used to be a huge prescriptivist actually but seeing how it was used turned me around on it.
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