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ihop posted:I keep getting black eyes. Second one in as many weeks. This one is so bad it's leaking into my sclera, turning my eye all bloodshot. Very professional looking at work. No one's gonna gently caress with you at work though. Hopefully you don't have a job that requires social contact with people who wouldn't understand how much BJJ owns.
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ihop posted:I keep getting black eyes. Second one in as many weeks. This one is so bad it's leaking into my sclera, turning my eye all bloodshot. Very professional looking at work. Are they caused by the same move tagging you or is it just bad luck?
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Jun 18, 2018 07:21
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I think it's mostly my fault. Usually happens when I'm trying to pass guard. I usually try to stand up and hand-fight the legs to set up a leg drag/weave. I also like to crash the hips for an over/double under pass. I tend to run into knees somewhere in there. I also tend to catch them when someone tries to aggressively reguard when I pop up into a tight combat base(?) One knee down, one knee up, front knee and elbow connected, face near the front hand. I'm also the dumb blue belt who likes to push the pace, and most of them happen when I run into someone who wants to play the same game. It's like two Highlanders meeting or something.
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Jun 18, 2018 07:45
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ihop posted:I think it's mostly my fault. Usually happens when I'm trying to pass guard. I usually try to stand up and hand-fight the legs to set up a leg drag/weave. I also like to crash the hips for an over/double under pass. I tend to run into knees somewhere in there. I also tend to catch them when someone tries to aggressively reguard when I pop up into a tight combat base(?) One knee down, one knee up, front knee and elbow connected, face near the front hand. I was just curious because I have/had an amazing ability to jump face first into knees. It's a skill...?
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Jun 18, 2018 07:51
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It's definitely an art. Edit- as for not having to deal with awkward social contacts, I work EMS, so nothing but odd looks from total strangers and ER staff all day. ihop fucked around with this message at 08:06 on Jun 18, 2018 |
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Jun 18, 2018 07:57
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A while back I read/heard some jiu jitsu famous person say "Everything above the neck is neck," re: RNCs. Anyone know the source of that?
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Jun 18, 2018 19:11
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Demian Maia demonstrated that principle with Rick Story. If your squeeze is strong enough, being under the chin itself isn’t necessary.
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Jun 18, 2018 19:20
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I feel like that's something that Rogan would say.
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Jun 18, 2018 19:21
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JaySB posted:I feel like that's something that Rogan would say. Yeah, which is why I qualified it. I kinda remember it being something like Rogan: "You know what Rigan Machado says about that, right?" Guest: "What?" Rogan: "Everything &c..."
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Jun 18, 2018 19:25
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The other week I was being stubborn about an RNC that was over my chin while I was attempting to escape. Partner kept going until my chin was almost behind my shoulder before I tapped. My partner isn't a particularly strong guy. I haven't been able to comfortably look to my left since. Moral of the story is: everything above the neck is the neck. Tap.
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Jun 18, 2018 21:21
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I tried for a collar choke in rolling finally and pulled it off and seriously collar chokes feel like a cheat code I kind of hate using them
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Jun 18, 2018 23:21
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Neon Belly posted:The other week I was being stubborn about an RNC that was over my chin while I was attempting to escape. Partner kept going until my chin was almost behind my shoulder before I tapped. My partner isn't a particularly strong guy. I haven't been able to comfortably look to my left since. Chin Locks are no joke and not something to be screwed with. A broken neck or broken jaw is not a fun time I assume.
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Jun 18, 2018 23:39
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CommonShore posted:A while back I read/heard some jiu jitsu famous person say "Everything above the neck is neck," re: RNCs. Anyone know the source of that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6LFkdeSox0
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Jun 19, 2018 07:30
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I think you need long arms to do Braulio’s trick effectively. I’ve tried and failed at it often.
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Jun 19, 2018 07:49
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Defenestrategy posted:Chin Locks are no joke and not something to be screwed with. A broken neck or broken jaw is not a fun time I assume. Are there any examples of a neck being broken like this, or by other BJJ chokes? I've often found it a bit funny while watching martial arts movies, where all it takes is a flick of the wrist and the bad guys neck is broken. But irl I've seen some necks twist in some very disturbing ways to no ill effect.
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Count Roland posted:Are there any examples of a neck being broken like this, or by other BJJ chokes? I cant think of famous examples, but anecdotally in nogi if someone puts their chin down during a properly applied RNC I have no doubt I have enough leverage left after they tap to the chin lock to have gone way further if I want. If not breaking the neck then atleast dislocating the jaw and hyper extending any muscles involved.
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Jun 19, 2018 14:53
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Defenestrategy posted:I cant think of famous examples, but anecdotally in nogi if someone puts their chin down during a properly applied RNC I have no doubt I have enough leverage left after they tap to the chin lock to have gone way further if I want. If not breaking the neck then atleast dislocating the jaw and hyper extending any muscles involved. Isn't that true for a lot of things in BJJ? Isn't it on the person being hyper extended/dislocated to tap?
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spacetoaster posted:Isn't that true for a lot of things in BJJ? Isn't it on the person being hyper extended/dislocated to tap? Yes. Except in cases of people like Rousimar Palhares that hold on long after tap, someone just toughing out a submission is accepting liability for the outcome, imo. c.f. angela magana and her twister injured back. I do not fault the person applying the submission at all. 
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Jun 19, 2018 15:33
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Imo with the chin lock it's easy to release the pressure - by lifting your chin (and accepting the sweet release of the RNC).
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Jun 19, 2018 15:35
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CommonShore posted:Imo with the chin lock it's easy to release the pressure - by lifting your chin (and accepting the sweet release of the RNC). I have great success with just grabbing their choking arm with both hands and doing a pull up type motion.
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Jun 19, 2018 15:38
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Not tapping is the dumbest poo poo ever and I blame pro wrestling
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Jun 19, 2018 15:51
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spacetoaster posted:I have great success with just grabbing their choking arm with both hands and doing a pull up type motion. In the words of Kurt Ossiander,if you wind up in this position you hosed up a long time ago. I just accept the sweet release of the RNC, because in my weight division you're not gonna have the strength to haul someones RNC hand down. spacetoaster posted:Isn't that true for a lot of things in BJJ? Isn't it on the person being hyper extended/dislocated to tap? Yea, but a bunch of idiots will look at certain submissions and go "LOL LIKE THAT'LL EVER ACTUALLY HURT SOMEONE I CAN TOUGH IT OUT", so it's a worthwhile comment to be made for non-traditional moves that "Yes, from this position they shouldn't be tapping because they're annoyed, they're tapping because you can totally rip the submission and no poo poo gently caress them up. See: Bicep/Calf Slicers, Compression chokes, most catch wrestling holds. CommonShore posted:Imo with the chin lock it's easy to release the pressure - by lifting your chin (and accepting the sweet release of the RNC). This is true. Defenestrategy fucked around with this message at 16:01 on Jun 19, 2018 |
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Jun 19, 2018 15:58
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spacetoaster posted:I have great success with just grabbing their choking arm with both hands and doing a pull up type motion. In the longer run, this position favours the strangle, not the escape. I can blast out of white and most blue belts' RNCs like this - really it's more of a function of buying myself a second to exploit the space they give to my hips and back - but against purple belts and up it's game over once that choking arm gets to my shoulder. Which comes back to my original thought about who said that thing - I've started just taking the chin lock when people give it to me, and I'm getting far more taps than I expected.
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I finally think I am over the cardio hump. Managed four rounds in a row without a break
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The takedown potentials with the Russian Tie feel pretty awesome. I feel like I have a lot of control. I hit one this morning during nogi class that was almost like an uchi mata and then turned into a tai otoshi like situation. Usually dont play around with Russian Tie but Im learning to like it. Any Russian tie takedowns you guys prefer that are maybe a good startoff point?
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Tacos Al Pastor posted:The takedown potentials with the Russian Tie feel pretty awesome. I feel like I have a lot of control. I hit one this morning during nogi class that was almost like an uchi mata and then turned into a tai otoshi like situation. Usually dont play around with Russian Tie but Im learning to like it. If I'm feeling spry, I use the russian tie to pick up single legs. If I'm feeling lazy I use the tie to get a weird tani otoshi by taking the close arm going to a far hip/belt grip while keeping far hand on wrist/sleeve.
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I like to piss them off with the broken posture for a few seconds and then push the wrist into their chest and feed my other arm deeper (making a fist) into a kimura-esque position and then do a sacrifice throw with it. You land in a near-arm-kimura-thing that’s not too hard to finish. The trigger is when they get a bit of posture back and the arm is starting to slip out, pushing that wrist in keeps you in control. Works best when combined with a couple of simpler takedowns. If you’re having trouble with the armlock, you have to make sure it’s really deep while you’re still standing.
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I like switching the near hand to a lat/waist grip, put a lot of pressure on the back of the shoulder, then hit a yoko sumi gaeshi.
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Tacos Al Pastor posted:The takedown potentials with the Russian Tie feel pretty awesome. I feel like I have a lot of control. I hit one this morning during nogi class that was almost like an uchi mata and then turned into a tai otoshi like situation. Usually dont play around with Russian Tie but Im learning to like it. Armdrag and also duckunder on the opposite side as they defend it.
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Tacos Al Pastor posted:The takedown potentials with the Russian Tie feel pretty awesome. I feel like I have a lot of control. I hit one this morning during nogi class that was almost like an uchi mata and then turned into a tai otoshi like situation. Usually dont play around with Russian Tie but Im learning to like it. Just only the coolest throw ever, Kata Guruma! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7_Yy-NB198) just move into side control, ignore the goofy as gently caress entry into the kneebar.
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Jun 21, 2018 02:04
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weeeeeee https://i.imgur.com/Vf83UMy.gifv
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Jun 21, 2018 10:57
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Good God drat!
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If you can't do an iminari roll by now, turn in your no gi belt. They are actually easier than it looks. (hitting in a comp is something else entirely)
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Drewjitsu posted:If you can't do an iminari roll by now, turn in your no gi belt. did you just brag about being able to hit a move and then immediately admit that you can't hit it against a resisting opponent aka you can't hit the move
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gently caress. I just realized I can’t hit any moves 
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02-6611-0142-1 posted:did you just brag about being able to hit a move and then immediately admit that you can't hit it against a resisting opponent aka you can't hit the move A fine example of verbal jiujitsu. Oss.
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Jun 22, 2018 13:36
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the man is very good at spinning on his back like a breakdancing ninja turtle
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Like that dude has to have a bit of background in Capoeira yeah, it looks like he was doing that stance for that
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Like that dude has to have a bit of background in Capoeira yeah, it looks like he was doing that stance for that No, he has that stance because he's known for spamming imanari rolls in competition. There's footage of him hitting it on a bunch of people in competition.
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break squad!
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