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Welp I made some videos. First I tried a fancy build that leaned off of green spells and more strongly towards UW to utilize Rhystic Circle. Spoiler alert, Circle probably isn't worth the hassle of casting a double-W spell. Rhystic Stonehorn Tron League #1 Rhystic Stonehorn Tron League #2 Not ready for primetime, but I learned something - I wanted a bounceland. One way to avoid missing my third land drop is if one of my two lands is if one of those lands is a bounceland, and sometimes I just want to Map for two lands to fuel a Circle of Protection or maybe turn 1 map, turn 2 crack for bounceland and turn 3 play the bounceland to ensure a turn 4 Stonehorn. Stonehorn Tron Challenge #8 also Relic of Progenitus was actually game winning against me (in one game) so maybe it's just great?!
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oh poo poo you guys, WotC found out about Pauper, who told them? almost guaranteed nothing good can come of this.
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Jun 18, 2018 05:24
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An Oubliette reprint would be good. But explaining that we need more complex and interesting cards at common would be better, rather than the vast majority of commons from every set being jank that's scarcely playable even in limited.
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Jun 18, 2018 07:06
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It was pretty unfortunate that there were no playable Pauper cards in Battlebond.
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Jun 18, 2018 07:09
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Like, the fact that Delver is far and away the best single creature in the format should tell you what's needed. Mulldrifter being a major part of the metagame is great, I love playing with creatures of that power level, but the biggest impact to Pauper in the past what, four years? is Thunderous Wrath being reprinted at Common and Before that it was loving Peregrine Drake. The only cards that even came close to being Pauper viable that aren't from a Masters set are firebrand archer and thermo-alchemist, and they only fit in the bad version of Burn.
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Jun 18, 2018 08:21
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Thraben Inspector is pretty decent and Ash Barrens is great. oh Monarch cards too
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Jun 18, 2018 08:22
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Hellsau posted:Thraben Inspector is pretty decent and Ash Barrens is great. fair enough, but that's three cards from normal rotation blocks, while pretty much every other thing is from a supplemental once-a-year product. How often does a card even speculatively make the jump to Modern SB/playable? Because I don't think that a format with cards added that infrequently is a sustainable or healthy format.
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Jun 18, 2018 08:30
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a lot of stuff sees fringe play it just rarely changes the meta significantly like the burn cards did. cartouches show up in bogles, control decks play striped riverinder sometimes, dusk leagion zealot shows up un mono black. kaladesh gave us gearseeker serpent "we don't regularly see a card on the power level of mulldrifter" seems fine to me
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Jun 18, 2018 08:37
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Here's the corrupt control list that top8'ed: https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/corrupt-control-3/?cb=1529308205 Black magic, as Garfield intended.
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Jun 18, 2018 15:15
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always be closing posted:Here's the corrupt control list that top8'ed: I like.
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Jun 18, 2018 15:55
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always be closing posted:Here's the corrupt control list that top8'ed: This is a spicy list, I'm in.
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Jun 18, 2018 17:50
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always be closing posted:Here's the corrupt control list that top8'ed: That's pretty sweet. Can't ever beat Tron but at least you'll actually have good matchups, unlike traditional MBC. I think a Bubbling Muck would be better than that Talisman. If you're gonna throw a fun-of in might as well make it super high impact.
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Jun 18, 2018 18:30
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Hellsau posted:I think a Bubbling Muck would be better than that Talisman. If you're gonna throw a fun-of in might as well make it super high impact. My guess is that Talisman isn't a fun of so much as the fifth Bauble, but I don't play Pauper.
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Jun 18, 2018 18:33
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always be closing posted:Here's the corrupt control list that top8'ed: I love that this runs 12 drain lifes (even though it doesn't run the card itself). It really is magic as Garfield intended. I always had a soft spot for drain life. Back in Odyssey block, I had a kitchen table magic deck with cabal coffers and drain lifes. It was pretty good in that meta, lol.
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Jun 18, 2018 21:14
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Serious question. What is Magic, as Garfield intended?
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Jun 18, 2018 21:44
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Matsuri posted:Serious question. What is Magic, as Garfield intended? What were the intentions of the Founding Fathers as they wrote the Bill of Rights?
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Jun 18, 2018 21:59
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Matsuri posted:Serious question. What is Magic, as Garfield intended? 20 black lotuses, 40 plague rats
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Jun 18, 2018 22:06
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KenBearlLOLOL posted:What were the intentions of the Founding Fathers as they wrote the Bill of Rights? 2 assault rifles in every pocket and no reserved list.
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Jun 18, 2018 22:08
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evilweasel posted:20 black lotuses, 40 plague rats So basically, as rule free as possible?
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Jun 18, 2018 22:20
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Matsuri posted:So basically, as rule free as possible? To give a serious answer, Garfield intended magic to have powerful spells and mediocre creatures.
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Jun 18, 2018 22:38
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Matsuri posted:Serious question. What is Magic, as Garfield intended? two lovely decks you drag out of a closet three times a year when the power goes out
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Jun 19, 2018 15:30
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Matsuri posted:Serious question. What is Magic, as Garfield intended? Played six days a week with a side of lasagna.
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Jun 19, 2018 18:16
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Speaking of MBC, I've been puttering around with it on Magic online and I still love it. Even if I will never get Oubliettes in paper until they are reprinted. I actually thought about pulling the trigger on them from CFB when they were 25 each, but then when I went to finally check out a couple days later they were over 40.
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Jun 20, 2018 04:01
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If we've learned anything from the tournament results a couple days ago, MBC doesn't need Oubliette to do well. Nor does it need creatures. (Though I do love Gary a lot as a wincon.)
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Jun 20, 2018 06:16
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GoutPatrol posted:Speaking of MBC, I've been puttering around with it on Magic online and I still love it. Even if I will never get Oubliettes in paper until they are reprinted. I actually thought about pulling the trigger on them from CFB when they were 25 each, but then when I went to finally check out a couple days later they were over 40. Oubliette looks super cool, but MBC sucks and it's not worth 20+ dollars. I got one from my LGS when it was $10 and the rest from Pucatrade before it went to poo poo, and I'm happy enough. The MBC deck in paper with all original printings looks fantastic, and we all know that aesthetics is 90% of what matters. Unfortunately the other 10% is playability and MBC sucks so oh well. Maybe they'll ban Tron and Mulldrifter.
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Jun 20, 2018 10:35
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Counterpoint: It apparently doesn't auto-lose to delver and actually appears in tournaments.
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Jun 20, 2018 20:45
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Made top 8 of another challenge, and the other player I know who plays Stonehorn Tron (Hampuse1) is in the finals against UR Delver. Deck is great. Why did I not side in CoP: Red against Affinity? Atog is the only good card in their deck. Lesson learned for next time.
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Jun 25, 2018 01:00
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Matsuri posted:Serious question. What is Magic, as Garfield intended?
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Whatever happened to Suicide Black? There's a bunch of modern cards that make it better than it could have ever been in the old 4th through 6th Standard and Extended formats, but nobody ever seems to play it any more. Are people just afraid of going full aggro and never blocking? btw here's a suicide black decklist I just brewed up a few minutes ago  :Lands 16 Swamp Artifacts 4 Lotus Petal Instants 4 Dark Ritual 2 Diabolic Edict 4 Geth's Verdict Sorceries 4 Duress 4 Raven's Crime 2 Wrench Mind Creatures 3 Carnophage 2 Dauthi Marauder 4 Dauthi Slayer 4 Gurmag Angler 4 Vampire Lacerator 3 Vault Skirge (Shadow is underrated in every format)
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If you're going to do that, I would honestly just load up on every 2 power one drop you can, including Pulse Tracker and its ilk. Which includes Night Market Lookout and Thornbow Archer.
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I had considered those guys, but I prefer the raw power of a 2/2 over a 1/1, since the 2/2s can eat chump blockers and still swing away on consecutive turns. Carnophage and Lacerator have downsides, but your opponent should be dead before the life loss from them even matters, which is the entire point of Suicide Black. edit: also, the deck has really good odds of a turn 1 or 2 Angler, which is pretty much a guaranteed win 70% of the time. Ideal hand would probably be something like Swamp, Swamp, Ritual, Ritual, Angler, Lotus Petal, Duress. Turn 1, Swamp, Petal, sac Petal for B->Duress to possibly get rid of any early creature removal, tap Swamp for B, Ritual->Ritual->spend BBBBB and delve 2 for Angler. Silhouette fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Jun 25, 2018 |
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Jun 25, 2018 19:21
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Seems like that deck would insta-lose to a moment's peace or 2 because your drawback creatures would start eating you
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Jun 25, 2018 21:59
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I ain't afraid of no Fog Suicide Black is all about trading security for raw speed and power, so small setbacks shouldn't really disrupt the deck's tempo. edit: also, there are 10 discard spells in the deck including 4 Duress, so fog-likes aren't really a concern Silhouette fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Jun 25, 2018 |
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Jun 25, 2018 22:31
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It seems like you auto-lose to burn, and carnophage is no longer that impressive now that the blue aggro decks are packing a 3/2 flier as their 1 drop.
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Jun 25, 2018 23:22
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Silhouette posted:I ain't afraid of no Fog moments peace has flashback
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Jabor posted:It seems like you auto-lose to burn, and carnophage is no longer that impressive now that the blue aggro decks are packing a 3/2 flier as their 1 drop. Burn is a bad matchup, but decent draws can see it outpaced, and delver still dies to an edict or verdict GoutPatrol posted:moments peace has flashback Silhouette posted:I ain't afraid of no Fog
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Some Numbers posted:If you're going to do that, I would honestly just load up on every 2 power one drop you can, including Pulse Tracker and its ilk. You know what, you're right. Lookout would be better than Skirge and the 3-drop Dauthi Marauders, and would help insulate a bit against burn. Revised decklist: Lands 16 Swamp Artifacts 4 Lotus Petal Instants 4 Dark Ritual 2 Diabolic Edict 4 Geth's Verdict Sorceries 4 Duress 4 Raven's Crime 2 Wrench Mind Creatures 4 Carnophage 4 Night Market Lookout 4 Dauthi Slayer 4 Gurmag Angler 4 Vampire Lacerator
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I'm a little confused here. You start off asking why noone plays suicide black anymore, and then when people tell you why you get very defensive about it, as though the deck not being very good any more is somehow a personal attack on you? If you really want to find out first-hand then feel free to jump into a bunch of leagues with it I guess, mtgo is right there.
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Jun 25, 2018 23:45
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I'd say people don't play it because it's hard to run Rancor in mono-black which is a really good card for a low to the ground aggro deck.
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traditional hellsau answer: it dies to stonehorn tron that said suicide black seems like a lot of fun for more casual pauper beatdowns
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