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Oh Snapple! posted:Shocking for the people whose political ideology amounts to "scream about Republicans 24/7 to meet the "I'm a good person" quota." Trickle down housing works a lot better than the opposing plan which is "let's build the Cabrini green , Ida b wells and Robert Taylor homes again" The real solution is free money for everyone so they don't have to cram into 10 places that have jobs, barring that zone it so single family houses aren't allowed in wide swathes of cities because right now the desrisble areas are losing density fast as the elite buy up multiple lots and force out the mere wealthy who in turn force out everyone else
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Zeroisanumber posted:Yeah, Keith is sick of national party decorum-gods bullshit and decided that he can do a lot more good as state AG. the best thing that ever happened to him was losing the DNC chair. The DNC deserves to wither and die on the vine with perennial wet blanket Tom Perez at the helm.
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Office Pig posted:rip your old av lol the libs are so mad at people not wanting to elect democrats who will just do the exact same thing as trump
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The Nastier Nate posted:the best thing that ever happened to him was losing the DNC chair. Perez doesn't seem like a bad dude on paper, but he does seem like the kind of guy who'd refuse to play dirty and the Dem leadership slimed the poo poo out of Keith to keep him out of the chair so I'm never going to trust Perez to be in my corner.
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loquacius posted:"Whataboutism" is already the D&D rallying cry whenever a Democrat is criticized for any reason Dating back to when America was a set of British colonies, nothing has been accomplished by challenging our leaders or the process. What's important right now is that we elect Democrats that will consolidate federal concentration centers and provide tax credits to private prison companies that offer bilingual and child care training courses to their employees. As part of our green initiative, these consolidated facilities will contain massive, centrally located furnaces capable of incinerating any and all refuse on premises and will have no long term consequences when Democrats lose control of every level of government again but this time to Mordor Orcs with Swastikas tattooed to their foreheads.
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dnd libs take comfort in a fairy tale-esque understanding of the injustices we're seeing today ; hordes of nazis crawled out of the sewers yesterday and built concentration camps for children. if we defeat the nazis (peacefully, by elections, natch) the day is saved. the truth of it is far more distressing. these camps are a small, logical extension of decades of immigration and law enforcement policy, and to fight them is to fight the creeping glacier that is american imperialism
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Calibanibal posted:dnd libs take comfort in a fairy tale-esque understanding of the injustices we're seeing today ; hordes of nazis crawled out of the sewers yesterday and built concentration camps for children. if we defeat the nazis (peacefully, by elections, natch) the day is saved. the truth of it is far more distressing. these camps are a small, logical extension of decades of immigration and law enforcement policy, and to fight them is to fight the creeping glacier that is american imperialism If you say "actually these camps were built under Obama" they can only parse that as trying to score points against Obama, because the idea that there is anything wrong with this country that can't be explained by "Republicans are evil" just plain does not compute
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Zeroisanumber posted:Perez doesn't seem like a bad dude on paper, but he does seem like the kind of guy who'd refuse to play dirty and the Dem leadership slimed the poo poo out of Keith to keep him out of the chair so I'm never going to trust Perez to be in my corner. Even if Perez was the best DNC chair ever (he isn't, he endorsed Cuomo) the organization itself is so tainted and democrats are extremely disillusioned. We've got the most unpopular president of our lifetimes and the DNC can't even get their fundraising numbers up because everyone knows its a black hole of money and they would rather give directly to candidates. Meanwhile the RNC is pulling in record numbers.
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loquacius posted:If you say "actually these camps were built under Obama" they can only parse that as trying to score points against Obama, because the idea that there is anything wrong with this country that can't be explained by "Republicans are evil" just plain does not compute its amazing to realize that america has white supremacy so embedded in its fiber that the first black president couldn't help but participate in it lmao
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Raskolnikov38 posted:its amazing to realize that america has white supremacy so embedded in its fiber that the first black president couldn't help but participate in it lmao All the republicans who kept pointing out that he was half white didn't realize how correct they were.
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Zeroisanumber posted:Perez doesn't seem like a bad dude on paper, but he does seem like the kind of guy who'd refuse to play dirty and the Dem leadership slimed the poo poo out of Keith to keep him out of the chair so I'm never going to trust Perez to be in my corner. e: nevermind said the same thing
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The Nastier Nate posted:the best thing that ever happened to him was losing the DNC chair. Ellison handed the DNC on a silver platter the perfect opportunity to co-opt the nascent Sanders/left-wing movement towards establishment-friendly ends, and they still managed to squander it because too many powerful Democrats couldn't stand the idea of a Berniecrat with heterodox views on Israel as the nominal head of the party. thank god he didn't win, talk about a poisoned chalice
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mastershakeman posted:the opposing plan which is "let's build the Cabrini green , Ida b wells and Robert Taylor homes again" who is proposing that
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Barry Convex posted:Ellison handed the DNC on a silver platter the perfect opportunity to co-opt the nascent Sanders/left-wing movement towards establishment-friendly ends, and they still managed to squander it because too many powerful Democrats couldn't stand the idea of a Berniecrat with heterodox views on Israel as the nominal head of the party.
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Office Pig posted:rip your old av lol i wasnt sure who this was about 'cause of the probation av. holy loving poo poo.
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Jun 19, 2018 18:57
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We need to secure our borders with blackhawk helicopters, and land mines, and snipers in guard towers, sherman tanks and A BIG BEAUTIFUL WALL!
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that said you idiots need to stay out of the D&D trump thread. despite being in D&D, it is not a thread for debate and discussion and the circlejerk there is enforced because it's better than dealing with the mass screeching that occurs otherwise.
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we must secure a future.. ahh gently caress i mean.. the border
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I hope the mods haven't lost Matey, who remains in indefinite incarceration despite committing no crimes.
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Without sounding like I am heaping praise on Trump, isn't he kind of right? Feckless immigration laws written and modified by Democrats in the name of compromise have opened the door to this monstrosity. I mean the biggest self own has to be all the Obama dems in outrage of a photo of a detention center during their reign. But there is never learning from past mistakes, instead it is working with republicans to draft new laws  Edit: I simply don't get it. America deserves the scorn it gets. God drat America,
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who the gently caress is scraeming "FREE MATEY" at my house show yourself coward, I will never free matey
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Dirk Pitt posted:Without sounding like I am heaping praise on Trump, isn't he kind of right? Feckless immigration laws written and modified by Democrats in the name of compromise have opened the door to this monstrosity. I mean the biggest self own has to be all the Obama dems in outrage of a photo of a detention center during their reign. But there is never learning from past mistakes, instead it is working with republicans to draft new laws Sorry dude but actually caging thousands of kids while trying to withdraw from the UN human rights council doesn't really fall into the category of "look yeah it's bad but change the law then." "Yeah it's bad but so change the law then" us more like when Musk sells flamethrowers in CA. You're right that the Dems are being useless sacks of poo poo too though.
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Dirk Pitt posted:Without sounding like I am heaping praise on Trump, isn't he kind of right? Feckless immigration laws written and modified by Democrats in the name of compromise have opened the door to this monstrosity. I mean the biggest self own has to be all the Obama dems in outrage of a photo of a detention center during their reign. But there is never learning from past mistakes, instead it is working with republicans to draft new laws However, Trump is also extremely hypocritical if he characterizes the policies as terrible when he has all the power in the world to change it unilaterally without congress.
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mastershakeman posted:Trickle down housing works a lot better than the opposing plan which is "let's build the Cabrini green , Ida b wells and Robert Taylor homes again" those places failed because whites refuse to live in integrated neighborhoods. the perfect white neighborhood according to countless housing surveys is one that is 90 percent or more white, while ideal black neighborhoods are 50 percent or less black. generally as a neighborhood or city drops to 70 or less white the flight really takes off. there are countries where the entire population lives in public housing, like Singapore
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Some of what's going on is because of wishy washy reaching across the aisle but a lot of it is because Trump and co have realized that laws and rules only matter if someone holds you accountable and the people that are supposed to hold the executive branch accountable, the legislative branch, are instead just cheering then on. And the legislative branch is also packing the courts with chuds to complete the trifecta.
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theCalamity posted:Would the GOP been able to confirm any of Trump's appointments without any Dems? Dems should stop voting for any of Trump's appointments, but I know that will never, ever happen. Serious breach of  there op
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as has been mentioned, this poo poo is so tiring because if ICE were actually nazis why the gently caress did dems vote to confirm their leaders and vote to fund them? are nazi enablers better than nazis?Peven Stan posted:those places failed because whites refuse to live in integrated neighborhoods. the perfect white neighborhood according to countless housing surveys is one that is 90 percent or more white, while ideal black neighborhoods are 50 percent or less black. generally as a neighborhood or city drops to 70 or less white the flight really takes off. source on one of those countless surveys? in denver, the main issue the black community seems to have is gentrification, not that white people refuse to live among them
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So trump is calling for the immigration laws to be changed and Mcconnel is saying repubs can have a change ready for a vote this week. How will the dems block it?
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die decorum die https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1009152790399213568
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spacetoaster posted:So trump is calling for the immigration laws to be changed and Mcconnel is saying repubs can have a change ready for a vote this week. Lol look at this dipshit who thinks the Dems are capable of blocking anything, even if they wanted to. 
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Lol look at this dipshit who thinks the Dems are capable of blocking anything, even if they wanted to. What are the names of the orgs that the private prison industry uses to give politicians money? I'm really curious to see who gets what. I looked up where kamala harris get's her millions from and over 70% of it is listed as coming from law firms.
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call to action posted:as has been mentioned, this poo poo is so tiring because if ICE were actually nazis why the gently caress did dems vote to confirm their leaders and vote to fund them? are nazi enablers better than nazis? It's not that whites refuse to live with people from other races, it's that they'll only buy houses in underprivileged neighborhoods if they're seen as a "good investment".
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spacetoaster posted:So trump is calling for the immigration laws to be changed and Mcconnel is saying repubs can have a change ready for a vote this week. It's gonna be called "The Family Reunification Bill" and it will end separating families at the border but will also cut SNAP, Medicare, medicaid and offer licenses for rich people to curb stomp 3 poors a year. Republicans will vote for it and will be the party that reunited families.
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The Nastier Nate posted:It's gonna be called "The Family Reunification Bill" and it will end separating families at the border but will also cut SNAP, Medicare, medicaid and offer licenses for rich people to curb stomp 3 poors a year. nah, there will be like 15 or so republican who wont vote for it for not being extreme enough then the dems will, in a stunning display of what the focus groups assure them is mature leadership, get enough votes to let it pass.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Lol look at this dipshit who thinks the Dems are capable of blocking anything, even if they wanted to. The point of captive opposition is, in part, to torpedo popular measures the ruling clique doesn't want and then take the blame. Yertle will play by decorum rules just this once becaue it lets him have his lily-white heimat and blame the Dems for refusing to close the camps.
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