June CE thread: a great task has been thrust upon us

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Handsome Ralph: Sep 3, 2004; Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!

It's too bad Donnie's too loving dumb to realize he doesn't look as strong or competent to the world at large as he thinks he does.

# ? Jun 20, 2018 14:16

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# ? Jun 7, 2024 23:44

Casimir Radon: Aug 2, 2008

Bolow posted:

https://twitter.com/passantino/status/1009220051172495361

Go cheat on your 9/11 widow wife some more you worthless piece of poo poo.

Reminder: Despite getting kicked to the curb for shoving that Brietbart "reporter" a couple years ago, Corey still talks to Two Scoops on the phone all the time. Tie him to these words and don't let him off. Worst case scenario is Corey gets cut loose and Donnie claims he was the coffee boy.

# ? Jun 20, 2018 14:16

Third World Reagan: May 19, 2008; Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.

Solaris 2.0 posted:

While that is incredibly coming from the ayatollah goddamn is it clear that with TRUMP MAGA in charge we�ve ceded any sort of moral high ground.

The only thing trump hasn�t done yet on the checklist is commit wholesale war crimes. But I�m confident with Bolton and Co in charge that they are working on it.

Don't worry, there is a chaser

https://twitter.com/khamenei_ir/status/1009418801455206400

# ? Jun 20, 2018 14:18

Vasudus: May 30, 2003

Phone posting but they're making a task force to comb through naturalization records to look for inconsistencies in paperwork to revoke citizenship.

poo poo like this is exactly what my fianc� is afraid of. Her and her families paperwork is 100% legit (she has a TS/SCI too) but if they lost your fuckin' fingerprints they can revoke your citizenship.

# ? Jun 20, 2018 14:19

BadOptics: Sep 11, 2012

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1009422280043171840

# ? Jun 20, 2018 14:21

Handsome Ralph: Sep 3, 2004; Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!

Looking forward to my Canadian dad getting his citizenship revoked because he forgot to fill something out 18 years ago.

lol just kidding, he's white, he'll be fine.

# ? Jun 20, 2018 14:22

Solaris 2.0: May 14, 2008

Third World Reggin posted:

Don't worry, there is a chaser

https://twitter.com/khamenei_ir/status/1009418801455206400

Holy poo poo.

:vince:

# ? Jun 20, 2018 14:22

boop the snoot: Jun 3, 2016

BadOptics posted:

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1009422280043171840

They�re trolling.

# ? Jun 20, 2018 14:23

The Iron Rose: May 12, 2012; Cat Army

Y'know, I've never been on the whole "abolish ICE!" train before.

But gently caress it, burn the department to the ground and rebuild something that isn't fundamentally evil out of the ashes. No one's advocating for no immigration laws or no immigration enforcement - but we need a department that isn't about three steps from genocide on a good day. This is a moral stain on our nation.

# ? Jun 20, 2018 14:24

Third World Reagan: May 19, 2008; Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.

If you stain the whole nation, then you don't have to worry about new ones

# ? Jun 20, 2018 14:26

Nephzinho: Jan 25, 2008

Vasudus posted:

Phone posting but they're making a task force to comb through naturalization records to look for inconsistencies in paperwork to revoke citizenship.

poo poo like this is exactly what my fianc� is afraid of. Her and her families paperwork is 100% legit (she has a TS/SCI too) but if they lost your fuckin' fingerprints they can revoke your citizenship.

Is there a source on this?

# ? Jun 20, 2018 14:27

mlmp08: Jul 11, 2004; Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration; Nap Ghost

Nephzinho posted:

Is there a source on this?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...m=.cf709c1371a0

e:

article for those who can't see WaPo:

quote:

The Trump administration is analyzing decades-old fingerprints in an unprecedented effort to rescind American citizenship from immigrants who may have lied or falsified information on their naturalization forms.

Revoking citizenship, a process known as denaturalization, has long been treated as a rare and relatively drastic measure by immigration authorities, reserved for foreigners who commit egregious crimes or acts of fraud, or pose a threat to national security.

But under a new policy memo issued by L. Francis Cissna, director of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), the agency is investigating thousands of old fingerprint records and files to determine whether foreigners made false or fraudulent statements in their attempts to obtain legal residency in the United States.

According to USCIS officials and documents reviewed by The Washington Post, Homeland Security investigators are digitizing fingerprints collected in the 1990s and comparing them with more recent prints provided by foreigners who apply for legal residency and U.S. citizenship. If decades-old fingerprints gathered during a deportation match those of someone who did not disclose that deportation on their naturalization application or used a different name, that individual could be targeted by a new Los Angeles-based investigative division.

Violators will be referred to federal courts where they could be stripped of citizenship and potentially deported.

Cissna said the effort was crucial to upholding the integrity of the U.S. immigration system.

�The people who are going to be targeted by this � they know full well who they are because they were ordered removed under a different identity and they intentionally lied about it when they applied for citizenship later on,� Cissna said in a statement posted on Twitter.

�It may be some time before we get to their case, but we�ll get to them,� he said, echoing comments made in an interview with the Associated Press, which first reported the plan.

According to the latest USCIS data, 2,536 naturalization cases have prompted in-depth reviews so far, and of those, 95 cases have been referred to the Justice Department. Those numbers are expected to rise as additional fingerprints are digitized by ICE, but only a federal judge � not USCIS � has the authority to revoke citizenship.

[Trump proposal would penalize immigrants who use tax credits and other benefits]

USCIS officials said Cissna is acting on a 2016 report by the agency�s inspector general that found at least 858 instances of previously deported foreigners applying for citizenship under a different identity. The report said U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) has 315,000 old fingerprint records being digitized and uploaded to the Homeland Security IDENT database.

Those prints can be compared with those already in the database. Foreigners who obtained American citizenship years ago and have been otherwise living quietly in the United States could be at risk of a knock at their doors.

A hypothetical example: A woman from the Philippines comes to the United States on a work visa in the 1980s and overstays. She is arrested and deported. A few years later, the woman marries an American citizen and returns. On her naturalization form, she deliberately does not disclose the previous deportation, and eventually earns U.S. citizenship. Twenty years later, when the fingerprints from her first deportation are digitized, the woman is notified she will be stripped of her citizenship for lying on her application forms.

According to Matthew Hoppock, an immigration attorney in Kansas who tracks such proceedings, the Justice Department has filed just 305 denaturalization cases since 1990, a sign of how sparingly the procedure has been used.

Several of those cases involved aging former Nazis, Hoppock said.

�There have been some years that the government didn�t file a single case,� he said. �Our hope is that [USCIS] will focus on people who actually committed fraud and deliberately made up new identities.�

# ? Jun 20, 2018 14:30

Third World Reagan: May 19, 2008; Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.

Nephzinho posted:

Is there a source on this?

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/in-america-naturalized-citizens-no-longer-have-an-assumption-of-permanence

quote:

Last week, it emerged that the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service (U.S.C.I.S.) had formed a task force in order to identify people who lied on their citizenship applications and to denaturalize them. Amid the overwhelming flow of reports of families being separated at the border and children being warehoused, this bit of bureaucratic news went largely unnoticed. But it adds an important piece to our understanding of how American politics and culture are changing.

# ? Jun 20, 2018 14:30

Riot Carol Danvers: Jul 30, 2004; It's super dumb, but I can't stop myself. This is just kind of how I do things.

Nephzinho posted:

Is there a source on this?

It's been in the news for a few days now. It used to be reserved for war criminals and the like but now it's for everybody!

BadOptics posted:

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1009422280043171840

Riot Carol Danvers fucked around with this message at 14:37 on Jun 20, 2018

# ? Jun 20, 2018 14:33

Oxygenpoisoning: Feb 21, 2006

Third World Reggin posted:

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/in-america-naturalized-citizens-no-longer-have-an-assumption-of-permanence

I can only hope Melania gets caught up in this and someone leaks it. I can�t wait til we get to watch the �Well actually!� Fill social media.

# ? Jun 20, 2018 14:43

boop the snoot: Jun 3, 2016

Oxygenpoisoning posted:

I can only hope Melania gets caught up in this and someone leaks it. I can�t wait til we get to watch the �Well actually!� Fill social media.

The president and his family are automatically citizens

E: unless they are Black Muslim Kenyan Socialist Radicals

# ? Jun 20, 2018 14:44

pantslesswithwolves: Oct 28, 2008

If we as a country are going to survive beyond this period, we�re going to need a Truth and Reconciliation Commission or some kind of national dialogue to undo the loving bonkers levels of tribalism, entrenchment, political polarization and outright inability to acknowledge basic truths and facts if they don�t correspond with one�s worldview. The fact that it�s all being driven in by the President is seriously damaging, and we have a lot of work to do if we want to pull ourselves back from the brink.

# ? Jun 20, 2018 14:55

Casimir Radon: Aug 2, 2008

pantslesswithwolves posted:

If we as a country are going to survive beyond this period, we’re going to need a Truth and Reconciliation Commission or some kind of national dialogue to undo the loving bonkers levels of tribalism, entrenchment, political polarization and outright inability to acknowledge basic truths and facts if they don’t correspond with one’s worldview. The fact that it’s all being driven in by the President is seriously damaging, and we have a lot of work to do if we want to pull ourselves back from the brink.

All the cultists are very vocal about their support on social media. I hope someone is archiving this. We could keep most of a generation of would be congress-critters out of office.

# ? Jun 20, 2018 14:58

boop the snoot: Jun 3, 2016

A national dialogue will only take place if its in a twitter thread or a Facebook group. As long as social media echo chambers exist in this country, so will tribalism.

# ? Jun 20, 2018 15:02

Pine Cone Jones: Dec 6, 2009; You throw me the acorn, I throw you the whip!

There is a part of me that doesn't believe it's possible to come back from this to what we'd once consider normal. The amount of damage done by this administration as well as "news" outlets like fox, breitbart, and others is awful and hard to quantify. If a Democrat is somehow able to get elected in 2020 and we can retake control of congress, how would we even deal with the hardcore Maga chuds. They're toxic and I don't know if there is a future for them besides obscurity and pushing them out of communities and keeping a very close watch on them as possible domestic terrorists. If we lose 2020, is it even worth staying here?

# ? Jun 20, 2018 15:02

Casimir Radon: Aug 2, 2008

Pine Cone Jones posted:

There is a part of me that doesn't believe it's possible to come back from this to what we'd once consider normal. The amount of damage done by this administration as well as "news" outlets like fox, breitbart, and others is awful and hard to quantify. If a Democrat is somehow able to get elected in 2020 and we can retake control of congress, how would we even deal with the hardcore Maga chuds. They're toxic and I don't know if there is a future for them besides obscurity and pushing them out of communities and keeping a very close watch on them as possible domestic terrorists. If we lose 2020, is it even worth staying here?

I wouldn't trust any of them to not turn to domestic terrorism. The militia poo poo in the 90s wouldn't have anything on it.

# ? Jun 20, 2018 15:05

That Works: Jul 22, 2006; Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy

Casimir Radon posted:

I wouldn't trust any of them to not turn to domestic terrorism. The militia poo poo in the 90s wouldn't have anything on it.

No no see the courts will stomp hard on the early waves of domestic terrorists. I mean people will try to occupy some government land in protest and get made an example of for sur- oh. Yeah...

# ? Jun 20, 2018 15:07

bloops: Dec 31, 2010; Thanks Ape Pussy!

Pine Cone Jones posted:

There is a part of me that doesn't believe it's possible to come back from this to what we'd once consider normal. The amount of damage done by this administration as well as "news" outlets like fox, breitbart, and others is awful and hard to quantify. If a Democrat is somehow able to get elected in 2020 and we can retake control of congress, how would we even deal with the hardcore Maga chuds. They're toxic and I don't know if there is a future for them besides obscurity and pushing them out of communities and keeping a very close watch on them as possible domestic terrorists. If we lose 2020, is it even worth staying here?

Germany turned out ok post-Hitler, so the US stands a pretty great chance coming out of this relatively alright.

# ? Jun 20, 2018 15:17

Casimir Radon: Aug 2, 2008

holocaust bloopers posted:

Germany turned out ok post-Hitler.

They had victorious external powers forcing de-Nazification on them. That won't happen fot us..

# ? Jun 20, 2018 15:19

bloops: Dec 31, 2010; Thanks Ape Pussy!

Oh ok sorry. You all can go back to assuming the death of the United States will occur in the next 2-6 years.

# ? Jun 20, 2018 15:22

FAUXTON: Jun 2, 2005; spero che tu stia bene

Truth and Reconciliation only worked because the internet back then barely existed and was not nearly the force it is now. There's no way in hell you could treat their apologies and promises as being in good faith because they've already demonstrated the willingness to repudiate it the moment they believe facebook/the twitterverse has their back.

# ? Jun 20, 2018 15:23

BadOptics: Sep 11, 2012

Casimir Radon posted:

They had victorious external powers forcing de-Nazification on them. That won't happen fot us..

It wasn't really even "de-Nazification" either; we pretty much imprisoned/executed the top levels and left the rest to help run West Germany.

# ? Jun 20, 2018 15:23

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

Casimir Radon posted:

They had victorious external powers forcing de-Nazification on them. That won't happen fot us..

The US gave up on de-Nazification almost immediately in west Germany though.

# ? Jun 20, 2018 15:24

Solaris 2.0: May 14, 2008

holocaust bloopers posted:

Germany turned out ok post-Hitler, so the US stands a pretty great chance coming out of this relatively alright.

I mean their entire nation and society had to be pounded to dust and they lost like 7 million people oh and massacred most of their undesirables in death camps before the final defeat which took the combined economic, military , and social might of the three largest powers on earth and tens of millions of war dead, civilian death and displacement and a completely restructuring of the entire global political order.
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But yea in the end they came out ahead I guess.

# ? Jun 20, 2018 15:25

Bolow: Feb 27, 2007

https://twitter.com/ALT_uscis/status/1009160397562286082?s=19

I knew ICE was full of the loving dregs of failed LEO types but gently caress me

https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/23/16511732/border-patrol-polygraph-trump-boots-on-border

# ? Jun 20, 2018 15:52

AreWeDrunkYet: Jul 8, 2006; Can't post for 7 days!

BadOptics posted:

It wasn't really even "de-Nazification" either; we pretty much imprisoned/executed the top levels and left the rest to help run West Germany.

But of course when de-Baathifying Iraq, we went top to bottom. Wonder if it has to do with them not being white?

# ? Jun 20, 2018 15:56

bloops: Dec 31, 2010; Thanks Ape Pussy!

Bolow posted:

https://twitter.com/ALT_uscis/status/1009160397562286082?s=19

I knew ICE was full of the loving dregs of failed LEO types but gently caress me

https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/23/16511732/border-patrol-polygraph-trump-boots-on-border

ICE and BP blanketed LinkedIn with recruiting ads for a good part of the year. I got served a lot probably for checkmarking the �white male, veteran� box.

# ? Jun 20, 2018 16:01

El Mero Mero: Oct 13, 2001

boop the snoot posted:

The president and his family are automatically citizens

E: unless they are Black Muslim Kenyan Socialist Radicals

I mean the chuds literally believe that the former president of the United States was an illegal immigrant and raced to support someone who pushed forth and built up that racist claptrap. So you know, desperate times desperate measures! These illegals have infiltrated the very highest levels!

# ? Jun 20, 2018 16:09

facialimpediment: Feb 11, 2005; as the world turns

They're absolutely determined to never do the right thing, even when it sounds right thing-adjacent.

https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1009452773950349313?s=19

# ? Jun 20, 2018 16:09

Riot Carol Danvers: Jul 30, 2004; It's super dumb, but I can't stop myself. This is just kind of how I do things.

THE EXECUTIVE ACTION IS JUST STOP DOING IT IT'S YOUR OWN loving POLICY YOU ORANGE loving COCKSUCKER

# ? Jun 20, 2018 16:11

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

This is a fun thing Trump retweeted
https://twitter.com/PastorDScott/status/1009120739834912768?s=19

# ? Jun 20, 2018 16:14

mods changed my name: Oct 30, 2017

just imagine how retarded you have to be to think the republicans are a good choice or worth even listening to

# ? Jun 20, 2018 16:14

BadOptics: Sep 11, 2012

https://twitter.com/Kia_Mak/status/...genumber%3D2105

Water is wet, etc.

# ? Jun 20, 2018 16:17

facialimpediment: Feb 11, 2005; as the world turns

UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:

This is a fun thing Trump retweeted

Yeah gently caress that idiot pastor.

Here's someone better.

https://twitter.com/evanmcmurry/status/1009455982110363648?s=19

# ? Jun 20, 2018 16:23

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# ? Jun 7, 2024 23:44

Casimir Radon: Aug 2, 2008

I'm feeling particularly depressed and hopeless tonight because we're seeing yet another example of Nothing Matters. Everything about this is horrible but the Republican voter base and by extension the representatives they've elected can't be bothered to issue an even moderately strong rebuke to this. They're completely down the rabbit hole with their post-truth QANON/(((DEEP STATE))) nonsense and won't be dissuaded no matter how much it ends up hurting them. They can't be reached. On the other side I'm worried that the contrarian Bernie Bro shitheads are going to get upset when the long shot unrealistic candidates Woke Twitter told them to like don't make the ticket, and sit out the midterms.

Even if we do push back the tide there's going to be millions of angry CHUDS who I don't trust not to turn to violence for a minute. What are we supposed to do with them?

I just don't loving know.

# ? Jun 20, 2018 16:29

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