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AlternateAccount posted:Is there a more obtuse and less intuitive piece of software in general usage than vi? Forefront Identity Manager and Biztalk.
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guppy posted:With the caveat that I don't have my RHCSA -- I was thinking of getting it and if I don't bother at least I'll have learned -- I have this book by van Vugt, which was recommended to me. I like it so far. It has both RHCSA and RHCE material, but they are separated and you don't have to go into the RHCE material if you don't want to. Seconding this reccomendation. Great book, and vm’s.
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Docjowles posted:Relevant (to the discussion, if not the thread topic): Stack Overflow: Helping One Million Developers Exit Vim lmao
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AlternateAccount posted:No, it's basically all trivia and memorization. If you want to pass it, you should I agree that not having anything on grep is weird but some of this is useful and important. sed and awk are very powerful and it's important to know how to use them. I used to find vi incomprehensible, but I learned from the van Vugt book, and the reason he gave for teaching it makes sense to me: according to him, vi is the only text editor guaranteed to exist in every Linux environment, so you better know how to use it in case it's your only option.
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Kazinsal posted:ed. The fact that ed isn’t mentioned much anymore shows that even for the most white-beardy grognardy sysadmin there is a limit to the masochism. I’ve used ed, but it was way back in the day when it was the only statically-linked editor and correct terminal emulation was often a rarity so you needed a line-based editor as an option. I did it reluctantly and with the man page printed out next to me though. Back on topic, for the RHCSA isn’t there supposed to be a way of taking the exam at-will if you are self-studying for it? When I look for exam availability it seems like I can take part in the exam given at the end of a training class even though I didn’t do the class, but not to say pick a date and show up to take it? And I’ve seen some posts online saying it’s better to do the classroom test anyways since the walk-up testing stations are often complete crap that make it harder to work through the test? fordan fucked around with this message at 14:23 on Jun 22, 2018 |
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Anyone have any materials for the CCNA security? I'm going through the CBT Nuggets stuff now, but having stuff to read would be nice too. From what I've seen all the official books are trash. I actually bought the Ebook version of the official cert guide and there were pages straight up missing. Out of an ebook. So I got it refunded.
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Jun 21, 2018 03:18
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fordan posted:The fact that ed isn’t mentioned much anymore shows that even for the most white-beardy grognardy sysadmin there is a limit to the masochism. I’ve used ed, but it was way back in the day when it was the only statically-linked editor and correct terminal emulation was often a rarity so you needed a line-based editor as an option. I did it reluctantly and with the man page printed out next to me though. Apparently I am just going to keep linking funny/cool editor takes in this thread https://jvns.ca/blog/2018/05/11/batch-editing-files-with-ed/
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Has anyone gone down the MCSA: Cloud Platform cert after having an MCSA in Windows Server? I'm starting to realize that I'm going to need Office 365 or Azure somewhere in my resume, and I've yet to work in an environment that runs either. How realistic is it for me to lab up a personal Azure environment to practice as I go through the prep material? Are the exams the same as Windows Server ones wherein you have to memorize so much garbage that doesn't really get used much in the real world and then have to pick the least awful answer out of four awful answers?
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Jun 21, 2018 15:08
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fordan posted:Back on topic, for the RHCSA isn’t there supposed to be a way of taking the exam at-will if you are self-studying for it? When I look for exam availability it seems like I can take part in the exam given at the end of a training class even though I didn’t do the case, but not to say pick a date and show up to take it? And I’ve seen some posts online saying it’s better to do the classroom test anyways since the walk-up testing stations are often complete crap that make it harder to work through the test? Sign up for a kiosk exam (K suffix on the exam number) at a proctoring center. I did self-study for both RHCSA and RHCE without taking the classes and was able to sit the exam at my local community college. I can confirm the kiosk was lovely though. The keyboard was the cheapest garbage and the escape key was wobbly, which was fun.
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guppy posted:I agree that not having anything on grep is weird but some of this is useful and important. sed and awk are very powerful and it's important to know how to use them. I used to find vi incomprehensible, but I learned from the van Vugt book, and the reason he gave for teaching it makes sense to me: according to him, vi is the only text editor guaranteed to exist in every Linux environment, so you better know how to use it in case it's your only option. awk never came up. And while there's certainly a case to be made for vi being the only guarantee, all you really need to know is "i" and "a" and ":q" and ":wq". You don't need to know how to do complicated cutting and pasting operations to modify eth0.conf.
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siggy2021 posted:Anyone have any materials for the CCNA security? I'm going through the CBT Nuggets stuff now, but having stuff to read would be nice too. From what I've seen all the official books are trash. I actually bought the Ebook version of the official cert guide and there were pages straight up missing. Out of an ebook. So I got it refunded. The two books I always see recommended are the official cert guide by Wendel Odom and another one by Todd Lammle. Odom is a bit dry but thorough while Lammle is a bit laid back but may not be as complete. I’m doing CCNA right now and I’m using Odom, CBTNuggets and Boson. The Boson labss and tests are super helpful if you can afford them.
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Is the vSphere 6 Foundations exam basically VCA-level basics and crap, or does it require actual prep and study? I let my VCP5 expire and I might as well go down the VCP6 route.
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Jun 23, 2018 16:38
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FCKGW posted:The two books I always see recommended are the official cert guide by Wendel Odom and another one by Todd Lammle. Odom is a bit dry but thorough while Lammle is a bit laid back but may not be as complete. CCNA Security not Routing and Switching (I already have that one).
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Jun 23, 2018 22:38
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siggy2021 posted:CCNA Security not Routing and Switching (I already have that one).  Although I am going through that cert next so I would like to hear any suggestions as well.
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It would be incredible if ticketing systems could receive an out-of-office reply from the requestor and then manage to read the date that the person is back in the office - the same way that emails can make suggestions for actions or calendar events - and pause the ticket for that amount of time, rather than just dump the OOO straight into the ticket as a response. If we're going crazy maybe the date that people are back in the office could be a header added to the auto-reply in a way that Microsoft/Google/people can agree on.
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I've been studying the gently caress out of the CISSP materials - plan on taking it in a month or so. I have the All in one book, the 11th hour book, the brand new official practice questions book and I watched the Cybrary videos. Do I really need to know poo poo like "What test does EAL3 map to?" and "Is COBIT or ISO/IEC-27031 a better framework to use here?" I feel like I'm just memorizing loving acronyms and numbers. How can you keep this all in your brain?
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KillHour posted:I've been studying the gently caress out of the CISSP materials - plan on taking it in a month or so. I have the All in one book, the 11th hour book, the brand new official practice questions book and I watched the Cybrary videos. Do I really need to know poo poo like "What test does EAL3 map to?" and "Is COBIT or ISO/IEC-27031 a better framework to use here?" I feel like I'm just memorizing loving acronyms and numbers. How can you keep this all in your brain? My weak domain when I was studying was always SDLC and I couldn’t get more than like 65%. It didn’t matter. I got maybe 5 questions on SDLC.
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I took one of the full tests in the back of the book (150 questions) as soon as I got it and scored an 83%. I'm still terrified. $700 is a lot to blow.
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IT idiot here. Newbie and will be (hopefully) commissioning as a Cyber Operations Officer in the AF by end of year. So I enrolled in a Sec+ online college course that will cost me 717. Over the weekend i got booted from the course due to forgetting to turn a assignment in ( i was at a funeral last week). My tuition got refunded but my professor is giving me another chance to get in the course. OTOH ive been doing my googles and seeing that alot of Sec+ online classes are as low as $30 (such as the Udemy course).......Should I just say gently caress it and learn on my own or would you all recommend the value of being able to interact with a professor for someone who has no certs/real IT experience?
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For security plus when you have relevant job experience? $700 is way too much unless your company is paying for it. If it's out of pocket take the $30 udemy course at your own pace. Assignments for security+ is also pretty funny. It's not a hard test if you absorb the course content. E; rereading your post it doesn't look like you have job experience. How the gently caress does your org expect you to be a cyber operations officer?
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Judge Schnoopy posted:E; rereading your post it doesn't look like you have job experience. How the gently caress does your org expect you to be a cyber operations officer? I, too, am a bit confused about this. Anyway, do you have any formal schooling in IT? If so, I'd recommend just watching Messer's Sec+ youtube vids and get a Gibson study guide. If not, you should probably brush up on general networking first. Granted I'm still in school atm and don't have the professional experience, but my upper level courses and home labs really helped me with the cert.
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Here's the cheap way to do Security+ Darrel Gibson's eBook for $10 https://www.amazon.com/CompTIA-Security-Get-Certified-Ahead/dp/1939136059 Professor Messer free video course https://www.professormesser.com/security-plus/sy0-501/sy0-501-training-course/ If you want some extra training, get Gibson's companion membership site for $50 that has practice tests or $65 for study guides, flashcard and stuff like that http://gcgapremium.com/sy0-501-security-practice-test-questions/ The last one is optional but I found it helpful
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Judge Schnoopy posted:For security plus when you have relevant job experience? $700 is way too much unless your company is paying for it. Air force is on a spree right now commissioning Intel and Cyber officers, really just expanding the Cyber and Intel fields as a whole. Officers, even in cyber operations, are really there just to manage operations/training/readiness from a "big picture" standpoint. No one initially expects you to be a SME (although it helps). Ill only be a 2LT so its expected ill be starting from the ground up.
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Knives Amilli posted:Officers, even in cyber operations, are really there just to manage operations/training/readiness from a "big picture" standpoint. That sounds reckless as gently caress to assign this to somebody with no IT security experience. 'big picture' requires so much more knowledge of all the little things involved, not less. Going this route is how you get a department of schmucks running around yelling about mantraps and password rotation because they read it in a book. Meanwhile there are portscans firing alarms on the IPS, 1512 was misconfigured by networking and is allowing errant traffic in, somebody has breached the border firewall and the 'cyber operations officers' have no unholy idea what any of that means or what to do about it.
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guys it's the USAF The bar is set at not raping japanese schoolgirls or trading intel for hookers and kickbacks I can't think of a similar Army scandal off the top of my head. Not cutting the parachute straps on, what was it, an MRAP? The point is that technical proficiency is gravy, and being able to qualify for a TS/SCI and walk in a straight line is closer to the expectations being set here. The Iron Rose fucked around with this message at 14:19 on Jun 26, 2018 |
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You know what I woke up kind of cranky today and forgot the purpose of this thread. To actually help, use the udemy course. Find some flash cards for the relentless CompTIA glossary questions. Study for two months and pass the test. And then whatever you do, keep reading the IT threads here. You will pick up a ton of useful, real-world experience second hand. It will put you miles ahead of anybody else who doesn't have IT experience, without the headaches of loving up on your own. And just post questions, not everybody here is as cranky as me I promise.
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Judge Schnoopy posted:not everybody here is as cranky as me I promise. Lies.
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Putting officers in charge of people who are far more useful and qualified than them is a long standing military tradition. It’ll be fine.
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Thanks Ants posted:It would be incredible if ticketing systems could receive an out-of-office reply from the requestor and then manage to read the date that the person is back in the office - the same way that emails can make suggestions for actions or calendar events - and pause the ticket for that amount of time, rather than just dump the OOO straight into the ticket as a response. Except that nearly every OOO I have ever seen added to a ticket named a date significantly in the past, sometimes by years.
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Taking SANS 504 Simulcast right now and really enjoying it, but its a lot of information and I haven't said more than a few words out loud to anyone except my girlfriend all week. Have my sights set on doing OSCP within the next 6-9 months but starting to think it might kill me given its difficulty and level of intensity vs. how easy a lot of people consider 504.
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I'm looking for some input, I'm very new to the IT field and I'm not really sure where to go from here. Here's my situation: - I don't have any professional IT experience. - I started getting certifications at the beginning of this year, so far I've got A+, N+, S+ and my CCNA - I just recently started looking for a new job with these certs (just got my CCNA R&S) I'm looking for what to do next as far as certifications are concerned, I'm looking for something that will give me value as an employee for hopefully the future as well as the present. Things I've considered are CCNP (I'm worried its a bit out of my depth with no professional experience and no other major certifications), RHCSA, CEH, some virtualization cert, or an automation cert. Ideally I'd like to be well rounded. Any input would be greatly appreciated, I'm aware these things can change based on my employer but I like to have some goals/plans in place so I can prepare.
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Xeriscape FTW, if I have to water it or chemical it then it's got no right living there. Of course, I don't actually own anything and I'm in the upper midwest/great lakes region where rain is relatively abundant so.
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Schadenboner posted:Xeriscape FTW, if I have to water it or chemical it then it's got no right living there. Ok but how does this compare to the CompTIA certs? Easier, harder, about the same?
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Captn Kurp posted:I'm looking for some input, I'm very new to the IT field and I'm not really sure where to go from here. Do you want to specialize in something? What kind of job is your short and long term goal? You could probably get in the door for some help desk interviews with just those certificates if getting a job, any job is what you care about.
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FCKGW posted:Ok but how does this compare to the CompTIA certs? Easier, harder, about the same? It depends, how good are you with iSeries?
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my bitter bi rival posted:Do you want to specialize in something? What kind of job is your short and long term goal? You could probably get in the door for some help desk interviews with just those certificates if getting a job, any job is what you care about. I'd prefer a job that has more autonomy, I'm not much of a customer service person although with no experience I should probably take what I can get. I really enjoyed reading the Security+ book even though most of the subjects were brief so I'm considering something in Cyber Security; however, I'm sure that is not a field you can just get into with no other experience in IT so I'm more focused on getting maybe a junior network admin job or something similar that will help me utilize what I've learned so far. Thanks for the help, any comments are appreciated.
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A wise person said that highly technical misanthropes are a dime a dozen. The ones who get paid figgies are the ones that can talk to clients and stakeholders without tripping over themselves.
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Diva Cupcake posted:A wise person said that highly technical misanthropes are a dime a dozen. The ones who get paid figgies are the ones that can talk to clients and stakeholders without tripping over themselves. I'll keep that in mind, sounds like some good wisdom! Just been jaded by stories of "hell desk"!
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Just updated my A+, Net+, and Sec+ with the new CompTIA Certmaster program. Work paid for it and it was far far easier than the old program where I would need 50 hours of training. Did it in a single day.
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Captn Kurp posted:I'll keep that in mind, sounds like some good wisdom! Just been jaded by stories of "hell desk"! Helldesk is where people with no certs and no experience start. They answer calls back to back to back all day long and do nothing but triage tickets. It's not a good place to end up because you don't get hands-on experience, the Tier 2 and 3 folks take care of change implementation. With certs and no experience, you should be at least answering calls, investigating problems, and providing solutions. I HIGHLY recommend against trying to skip the 'talking to customers' portion of the career track. There's a ton of valuable information and experience you'll get when talking to non-technical people about problems they can't accurately describe. The soft-skills are one of the biggest differences in the candidate pool and if you've never practiced them, it will be obvious. With experience and no certs, you can get in to whatever field best suites your interest within 5 years. With experience AND certs, you'll get that job sooner and at higher pay, which is nice. * This conjecture is based solely on my personal experience and IT professionals around me, and should not be taken as the word of god or anything.
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