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That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Casimir Radon posted:

I'm feeling particularly depressed and hopeless tonight because we're seeing yet another example of Nothing Matters. Everything about this is horrible but the Republican voter base and by extension the representatives they've elected can't be bothered to issue an even moderately strong rebuke to this. They're completely down the rabbit hole with their post-truth QANON/(((DEEP STATE))) nonsense and won't be dissuaded no matter how much it ends up hurting them. They can't be reached. On the other side I'm worried that the contrarian Bernie Bro shitheads are going to get upset when the long shot unrealistic candidates Woke Twitter told them to like don't make the ticket, and sit out the midterms.

Even if we do push back the tide there's going to be millions of angry CHUDS who I don't trust not to turn to violence for a minute. What are we supposed to do with them?

I just don't loving know.

Become responsible and proficient with a firearm.

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bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!
What is this Qanon poo poo

crazyivan45
Apr 30, 2008
Dan Dreiberg: What happened to us? What happened to the American Dream?

Edward Blake: "What happened to the American Dream?" It came true! You're lookin' at it...

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

holocaust bloopers posted:

What is this Qanon poo poo

Alex Jones plus 4chan

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
Too bad we started a trade war with Canada.

We could really use some allies on ripping kids from indigenous people right now.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
qanon is basically a breeding ground for even more retarded pizzagate like poo poo.

Hell at this very moment a bunch of idiots from a group called Veterans on Patrol are walking around empty lots in Tuscon searching for child sex rings. If you want a bizarre peak into this world, I recommend following JJ MacNab https://twitter.com/jjmacnab

Proud Christian Mom fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Jun 20, 2018

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Proud Christian Mom posted:

qanon is basically a breeding ground for even more retarded pizzagate like poo poo.

Hell at this very moment a bunch of idiots from a group called Veterans on Patrol that are walking around empty lots in Tuscon searching for child sex rings. If you want a bizarre peak into this world, I recommend following JJ MacNab https://twitter.com/jjmacnab
Here's another thing. There are 2.7 million veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan. Hundreds of thousands of them are loving retarded, overly entitled, and happy to divorce themselves from civil society.

Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.
https://twitter.com/nycjim/status/1009459282369306624

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy



Is this mission creep or

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Um...

https://twitter.com/NY1/status/1009380587856191488

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!


facialimpediment posted:

Yeah gently caress that idiot pastor.

Here's someone better.

https://twitter.com/evanmcmurry/status/1009455982110363648?s=19

John Lewis loving owns.

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

holocaust bloopers posted:

What is this Qanon poo poo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhEs9KUQ4qo

golden bubble
Jun 3, 2011

yospos

Dance Officer posted:

To be fair all policing/enforcement agencies and a lot of other people in federal employment are just carrying out the laws passed by congress. Thats exactly the same between well-functioning democracies and fascist states, though in fascism you're more likely to let a bunch of animals run these agencies, I suppose. And they're not systematically murdering them or most of the other nazi poo poo.

That's actually totally accurate. Even when the Nazis had total control of the German government and could basically draft laws however they wished, they could not stop breaking the law. Despite the ability to write in as many personal loopholes as they wished, Nazis cannot not stop violating their own laws.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

https://twitter.com/CBSThisMorning/status/1009436388276817920

Whoever is writing this tv show is a loving hack.

redneck nazgul
Apr 25, 2013


Someone sue against this on 3rd Amendment grounds.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

That Works posted:

Is this mission creep or

I’m honestly not sure if it’s legal for the military to function as a federal detention agent.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

Mr. Nice! posted:

I’m honestly not sure if it’s legal for the military to function as a federal detention agent.

Too bad we've set up 15 years of precedent with Gitmo.

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!
Trump is backing down on the family separation issue.

Trump Plans Executive Order to End Family Separation https://nyti.ms/2I7wWAA?smid=nytcore-ios-share

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
these people are

a) not white
and
b) not Americans

so they're basically begging to be classified as enemy combatants

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

holocaust bloopers posted:

Trump is backing down on the family separation issue.

Trump Plans Executive Order to End Family Separation https://nyti.ms/2I7wWAA?smid=nytcore-ios-share

Is this the order that blatantly disregards the court imposed requirement that immigrants get bail hearings so will be immediately struck down?

mods changed my name
Oct 30, 2017
just lol at anyone who thinks trump/gop will do the right thing, ever

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

Wasabi the J posted:

Too bad we've set up 15 years of precedent with Gitmo.

That’s a specific thing, though, and isn’t because of federal law enforcement. It’s an enemy combatant type thing.

The military is forbidden from enforcing federal law due to the posse comitatus act passed to end reformation following the civil war. I’m pretty sure the military functioning as border detention agents falls under that umbrella in a way that enemy combatants do not.

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice
I'm usually a season behind on Handmaid's Tale and, umm, loving wow that might be a good thing at the moment. Apparently the latest episode goes into the emotional toll of a mother making the heart breaking choice to give up her child to a brutal, theocratic regime that quotes and warps scripture to give itself moral permission for its actions.

Too soon, reality. Too soon.

bird food bathtub fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Jun 20, 2018

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016

Mr. Nice! posted:

That’s a specific thing, though, and isn’t because of federal law enforcement. It’s an enemy combatant type thing.

The military is forbidden from enforcing federal law due to the posse comitatus act passed to end reformation following the civil war. I’m pretty sure the military functioning as border detention agents falls under that umbrella in a way that enemy combatants do not.

Just call them enemy combatants then.

Solaris 2.0
May 14, 2008

So I’m taking this extra hard because my wife and her immediately family were granted asylum based on persecution. Her grandfather fought for the ARVN during the Vietnam war and after the south fell, her mother and grand father spent years in work camps, and when released were denied most jobs /discriminated by the communist government.

They were granted asylum by the US like a month before 911. My wife got her citizenship 5 years ago and her mother got hers last year but honestly, what’s going on lately has me scared shitless and I just hope I’m not over-reacting.

*edit*

I mean gently caress. my family fled Germany in like 1910 pre-WW1 because poo poo was getting weird in the run up to the war. I’m a family of immigrants, aren’t we all? And don’t give me they did it legally bullshit they boarded a boat and were stuck at Ellis island for a bit before being allowed in and settled in Kentucky (my blood is proven 1/5 bourbon). I don’t know why we can’t do something similar at the southern border other than “racism”

Solaris 2.0 fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Jun 20, 2018

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!


hobbesmaster posted:

Is this the order that blatantly disregards the court imposed requirement that immigrants get bail hearings so will be immediately struck down?

That's a bingo!


Also, the website formerly known as gawker published Stephen Miller's cell phone number.

https://splinternews.com/heres-stephen-millers-cell-phone-number-if-you-need-it-1826985626

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

boop the snoot posted:

Just call them enemy combatants then.

Close.

https://twitter.com/peterbakernyt/status/1009475068131512320?s=19

Making a problem that you can solve, then "solving" the problem by making ANOTHER problem.

Slim Pickens
Jan 12, 2007

Grimey Drawer

bird food bathtub posted:

*discussing an episode that was released last night*

That's the season finale, and maybe you could spoiler that poo poo?

e: I guess you could be talking about the earlier episodes too, but still, I haven't watched the new episode yet

Slim Pickens fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Jun 20, 2018

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice

Slim Pickens posted:

That's the season finale, and maybe you could spoiler that poo poo?

e: I guess you could be talking about the earlier episodes too, but still, I haven't watched the new episode yet

It was, but fair enough. Edited.

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

Handsome Ralph posted:

That's a bingo!


Also, the website formerly known as gawker published Stephen Miller's cell phone number.

https://splinternews.com/heres-stephen-millers-cell-phone-number-if-you-need-it-1826985626

Owns.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

Handsome Ralph posted:

That's a bingo!


Also, the website formerly known as gawker published Stephen Miller's cell phone number.

https://splinternews.com/heres-stephen-millers-cell-phone-number-if-you-need-it-1826985626

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit
:lol:

https://forums.somethingawful.com/banlist.php?userid=179932

Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.
Ready for a super slam

https://twitter.com/dabeard/status/1009478392562028545

https://twitter.com/jacobsoboroff/status/1009431975180947456

https://twitter.com/RogerDHodge/status/1009441511971442688

Dance Officer
May 4, 2017

It would be awesome if we could dance!
Question for the thread. If illegal border crossers are charged with illegal border crossing, doesn't that mean they (normally) go to jail awaiting trial?

Richard Bong
Dec 11, 2008

Solaris 2.0 posted:

So I’m taking this extra hard because my wife and her immediately family were granted asylum based on persecution. Her grandfather fought for the ARVN during the Vietnam war and after the south fell, her mother and grand father spent years in work camps, and when released were denied most jobs /discriminated by the communist government.

They were granted asylum by the US like a month before 911. My wife got her citizenship 5 years ago and her mother got hers last year but honestly, what’s going on lately has me scared shitless and I just hope I’m not over-reacting.

*edit*

I mean gently caress. my family fled Germany in like 1910 pre-WW1 because poo poo was getting weird in the run up to the war. I’m a family of immigrants, aren’t we all? And don’t give me they did it legally bullshit they boarded a boat and were stuck at Ellis island for a bit before being allowed in and settled in Kentucky (my blood is proven 1/5 bourbon). I don’t know why we can’t do something similar at the southern border other than “racism”

Same here. My grandma’s family didn’t get out of Czechoslovakia before the German annexation, then was stuck in a refugee camp for 4 years after the war before they were allowed to come here. She still tells me stories about them leaving bodies hanging from lamp posts under threat of death. Also how my great grandpa was wanted by the gestapo for blowing up the bridges he built as a civil engineer. They all had to renounce their citizenship to come here.

I don’t want to have to fight fascists at home. I have a family. It genuinely scares me. I’m just worried this poo poo is gonna spiral out of control. I mean they are doing outright evil poo poo, completely callous and cruel interpretations of a law using babies and children as leverage. What’s next? The kids are already being sexually abused, how long until some start dying? And of course this administration always finds a new low, so what other policies do they have in store? At what point are we as a people obligated to do something more?

Iraq was a loving eye opening experience that showed me just how spectacularly hosed our foreign policy is, and how far we can stray from the ideals I thought we stood for when I joined. I’ve just been losing faith that this can be solved amicably. They don’t even put a veneer of anything over these actions anymore. They are outright stating these kids are for leverage to stop illegal immigration and to force Dems to the table. Honestly how do we come back from this as a country? How do we move past a large chunk of our country being ok with child internment camps? It’s just so hosed up.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Dance Officer posted:

Question for the thread. If illegal border crossers are charged with illegal border crossing, doesn't that mean they (normally) go to jail awaiting trial?

Yes and no. Obama made sure that they went to trial, but were charged in such a way to keep the family together for deportation.

Trump/Miller specifically want to be cruel to deter illegal immigrants. Using cruelty to deter is not entirely legal.

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!
Man the pivot from Muslims to Mexicans was super loving fast.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

holocaust bloopers posted:

Man the pivot from Muslims to Mexicans was super loving fast.

eh, Mexican boogeymen may have been on the back burner, but that bitch was turned up to 11 all the time.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


If I wasn't still in I'd be texting him to kill himself.

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mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

Mr. Nice! posted:

I’m honestly not sure if it’s legal for the military to function as a federal detention agent.

Presumably, they mean using US military excess building/barracks space or land to house people, not the military running detention facilities. That's the way it worked in the 2014 child migrant crisis. Unused buildings or portions of bases were converted into areas where they could be held, but the military administration was limited to providing the real estate, some barriers to restrict access in and out, and MPs who were not inside the detention area, but rather were more focused on keeping nosy people away from the detention area. HHS/ICE (and probably other agencies) were running the show inside the detention areas.

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