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Keeshhound posted:Those vending machines had more character and charm. "If you shop anywhere else, I'll have you killed."
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This has some stuff I hadn't seen before: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjt9TioKPsc SPECIAL relates to specific jobs you can have. Building and crafting levels you just as combat would. Hostile players show up as red pings just like hostile raiders/muties would. Game tells you if it's someone who has harassed you before and you get revenge-kill bonus (amounts are probably still being adjusted). I'm no longer biting my nails nervously at this, and am actually quite excited to see what is to come.
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Jun 20, 2018 18:03
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Got my beta code in, I have got to see how this train wreck unravels. From previous experience if you're not rolling with some folks in these kinds of games you're a constant victim, and if you try to roll with someone you don't really know you'll be their cabin boy at best and eventually they'll also betray you and take all your poo poo. So I'm taking offers, who's got a team and wants me for a cabin boy?
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Jun 20, 2018 18:18
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CrashCat posted:Got my beta code in, I have got to see how this train wreck unravels. From previous experience if you're not rolling with some folks in these kinds of games you're a constant victim, and if you try to roll with someone you don't really know you'll be their cabin boy at best and eventually they'll also betray you and take all your poo poo. So I'm taking offers, who's got a team and wants me for a cabin boy? Don't worry, once you get killed you can allegedly block the other player from attacking you again. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me but that's what they're saying
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Jun 20, 2018 18:23
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just gotta get killed 3 million times and eventually you'll run out of players that can harm you
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Jun 20, 2018 18:28
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Zelder posted:Don't worry, once you get killed you can allegedly block the other player from attacking you again. So who wants a cabin boy?
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Jun 20, 2018 18:31
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CrashCat posted:Got my beta code in, I have got to see how this train wreck unravels. From previous experience if you're not rolling with some folks in these kinds of games you're a constant victim, and if you try to roll with someone you don't really know you'll be their cabin boy at best and eventually they'll also betray you and take all your poo poo. So I'm taking offers, who's got a team and wants me for a cabin boy? What platform?
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Jun 20, 2018 18:31
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Zelder posted:Don't worry, once you get killed you can allegedly block the other player from attacking you again. This is also kind of a dumb system because there will always be new players popping up in your server. There's no way they can limit it to ~30 players and not have some kind of churn as people quit playing, so whether you move to a new server or new people move into yours, more people will always be able to attack you for the first time.
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Jun 20, 2018 18:32
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wait so how does this multiplayer stuff interact with VATS? or did that system go away at some point during fallouts 5-75 (sorry for asking i havent played them yet im waiting for a sale)
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Jun 20, 2018 18:41
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Mr Hootington posted:What platform?
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Jun 20, 2018 18:44
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NofrikinfuN posted:This is also kind of a dumb system because there will always be new players popping up in your server. There's no way they can limit it to ~30 players and not have some kind of churn as people quit playing, so whether you move to a new server or new people move into yours, more people will always be able to attack you for the first time.
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Jun 20, 2018 18:48
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CrashCat posted:I can't really reconcile it at all, the only reason for killing someone in a survival game is to take their base and/or the stuff in it. If you only get to kill someone once, that would imply that after that point either you automatically own free access to all their poo poo or you're magically cut off from all of it. If it's the latter people will just insist on killing each other as some sort of bizarre treaty ritual. From what I saw in the preview, killing players just gets you some XP and caps (not even a whole lot, it looks like) and you can't loot players because they don't drop inventory on death. Unless you want to nickel and dime your XP, there's no reason to kill other players except for short-lived griefing.
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Jun 20, 2018 18:55
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chitoryu12 posted:From what I saw in the preview, killing players just gets you some XP and caps (not even a whole lot, it looks like) and you can't loot players because they don't drop inventory on death. Unless you want to nickel and dime your XP, there's no reason to kill other players except for short-lived griefing.
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Jun 20, 2018 18:59
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chitoryu12 posted:From what I saw in the preview, killing players just gets you some XP and caps (not even a whole lot, it looks like) and you can't loot players because they don't drop inventory on death. Unless you want to nickel and dime your XP, there's no reason to kill other players except for short-lived griefing. Yeah, it really seems like a system that neither type of player is going to like. At which point, dividing into PVP and PVM servers would ensure players got the experience they were looking for. PVP servers could even be positioned like a hardcore mode, letting you get looted when you die.
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Jun 20, 2018 19:02
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CrashCat posted:That doesn't explain anything. Nobody keeps all their poo poo on their person, it's the base that's got the built up wealth. What happens with that? You have three options: 1. If a person disables you from killing them, it also disables you from blowing up their base and taking their stuff. 2. You can't blow up their base, and if you can you can't loot anything so it's just more XP and caps. 3. If a person disables you from killing them, they can still blow up your base with impunity. I'm going to guess 1 or 2.
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Jun 20, 2018 19:11
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Soup du Journey posted:wait so how does this multiplayer stuff interact with VATS? or did that system go away at some point during fallouts 5-75 (sorry for asking i havent played them yet im waiting for a sale) According to Todd: quote:VATS will work in real-time, it will be different but if you are not that good with shooters you can specialize your character to be good at using VATS. So all you have to do is spec for VATS and Stealth, and become an Aimbotting Ninja Murderhobo
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Jun 20, 2018 19:12
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Soup du Journey posted:wait so how does this multiplayer stuff interact with VATS? or did that system go away at some point during fallouts 5-75 (sorry for asking i havent played them yet im waiting for a sale) VATS in it's old form is not in this game. Don't know if it has a new name, but in 76 the crutch mechanic is a realtime autoaim ability.
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Jun 20, 2018 19:13
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Vinylshadow posted:According to Todd: Sounds like VATS builds will be obnoxious to play against on consoles and utter dogshit on PC
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Jun 20, 2018 19:22
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Dalael posted:Please do, I'd love to see it. I actually read a bit about the mod and was really tempted until I decided to do my run at legendary, but i might add it for my normal modded game. Meh, I get it, but it's modded up the bung. I'm having fun with getting things to look good pretty good within the limitations in the base game. I haven't even bought any of the DLC. NofrikinfuN posted:The shortfalls are things like a lack of prefab pieces from a site that snap-in with your junk, or not being able to clear certain rubble that is in the way. They also were not great about scripting and dead bodies can reappear in your camps. Defend Settlement X missions are really poorly implemented and could make for some decent radiant content if they cleaned them up and maybe made them a little more interesting. (Maybe a named legendary raider/ghoul/mutant in the group?) Figuring out how to build with the feng shui of the wastes was a big part of the appeal to me. It's what made it a bit of a puzzle, and sometimes I have to scrap my ideas and try a different approach.
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Jun 20, 2018 19:23
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chitoryu12 posted:You have three options: I can't even imagine how #1 would work, you'd have to deliberately avoid contact but also lure people away somehow so that you could take all their stuff.
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Jun 20, 2018 19:29
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If you can't loot bodies you probably can't loot bases, especially as you can just put your base into your back pocket and wander off.
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Jun 20, 2018 19:39
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Azhais posted:If you can't loot bodies you probably can't loot bases, especially as you can just put your base into your back pocket and wander off. Yeah, they initially hyped up the "Build anywhere!" feature as an expansion of the settlements, but then ruined it by saying that it's just a portable camp that you can pack up whenever you want and disappears when you log off. Again, they're trying to mix and match genres in really weird ways without the full set of features that make these genres fun.
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Jun 20, 2018 19:46
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I'm finishing Rex's quest and I can't decide whether I want him to be faster or bite harder. Both options seem to make him a bit more effective, but I'm not sure which is better. Now soliciting opinions.
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Jun 20, 2018 19:53
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Azhais posted:If you can't loot bodies you probably can't loot bases, especially as you can just put your base into your back pocket and wander off. 
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Cyberpunkey Monkey posted:Meh, I get it, but it's modded up the bung. I'm having fun with getting things to look good pretty good within the limitations in the base game. I haven't even bought any of the DLC. I only recently started paying attention to the settlement, but i feel that the base game + dlc just doesn't have enough stuff. Also there seems to be mods that simply make things easier to build and I kinda want those. Just building a flat floor was a pain in the rear end for my Starlight drive n
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StandardVC10 posted:I'm finishing Rex's quest and I can't decide whether I want him to be faster or bite harder. Both options seem to make him a bit more effective, but I'm not sure which is better. Now soliciting opinions. You don't want +10 DT on him via Lupa's brain? Or are you not going anywhere near the Legion
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Jun 20, 2018 20:14
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Dalael posted:I only recently started paying attention to the settlement, but i feel that the base game + dlc just doesn't have enough stuff. Also there seems to be mods that simply make things easier to build and I kinda want those. I'm not gonna lie, it took a while to get the knack for it, but...
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StandardVC10 posted:I'm finishing Rex's quest and I can't decide whether I want him to be faster or bite harder. Both options seem to make him a bit more effective, but I'm not sure which is better. Now soliciting opinions. Faster imo
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Jun 20, 2018 20:22
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CrashCat posted:Well if it's 2 then I guess I don't need to be a cabin boy, but I'd still like some folks to run around with murdering radscorpions and poo poo. Also if it's not 3 it begs the question of why to bother including the PVP at all, but I'm not a game developer... I'm betting they don't want the game to turn into RUST or Ark, where you end up with this horrible grind of poopsocking resource gathering in order to have enough defenses to ward off groups with even more dudes and even more free time. Hopefully they add a hardcore mode or something similar where you drop stuff on death and generally have to play the game more like a paranoid survival sim.
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Jun 20, 2018 20:33
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Methylethylaldehyde posted:I'm betting they don't want the game to turn into RUST or Ark, where you end up with this horrible grind of poopsocking resource gathering in order to have enough defenses to ward off groups with even more dudes and even more free time. At this point they've just announced a game that is "wandering around the skyrim map exploring one room caves without any other major plot line" and added "and occasionally swaglord69 will murder you for no well explained reason or gain but you'll just move past it and heal" It's loss.jpg, the video game
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Jun 20, 2018 20:40
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I'm expecting Fallout themed Minecraft and I'm totally okay with that.
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Jun 20, 2018 20:58
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StandardVC10 posted:I'm finishing Rex's quest and I can't decide whether I want him to be faster or bite harder. Both options seem to make him a bit more effective, but I'm not sure which is better. Now soliciting opinions. I went with Bite harder, he's already super fast.
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HFCS posted:This has some stuff I hadn't seen before: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjt9TioKPsc this is a good video although he misidentified the players water meter for bleeding damage
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Dalael posted:Please do, I'd love to see it. I actually read a bit about the mod and was really tempted until I decided to do my run at legendary, but i might add it for my normal modded game. So here's a few screenshots from my Sanctuary Hills running SimSettlements, Rise of the Commonwealth. Sanctuary is currently Level-2, and I'm pumped to see what Level-3 looks like but it's taking about as long in game as it did to go from Level-0 to Level-2. The other places I have SimSettlements at aren't nearly this full - they're mostly Level-1 or lower. All of this (with the exception of some lighting, turrets and workbenches I've added into more convenient locations) was generated by the blueprint file for each individual settlement. They build and expand over time, so it's a great way to save yourself the headache if you don't wanna dick around with a filing cabinet for 20 minutes trying to get the pixels lined up correctly.  Gallery: https://imgur.com/a/hlnkOyN
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Donovan Trip posted:this is a good video although he misidentified the players water meter for bleeding damage I am willing to forgive that for all the rest of the information he provided :p
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HFCS posted:I am willing to forgive that for all the rest of the information he provided :p deeeefintely. I went down a rabbit hole watching all the videos he has on F76 and I honestly think 76 could be the greatest Bethesda Fallout game.
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Is fallout 76 gonna be on steam or are they trying to make their own game app? They don't list steam under their retailers on their site so I'm guessing its not going to be on steam. Kinda like a red flag to me. I already have ubisoft and ea accounts but I never even reload those launchers because they have like no games on their poo poo. Tenzarin fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Jun 21, 2018 |
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They already have an app, which is used for Legends and Shelter (but not for ESO which has its own), and with a download link to the app on the site it's likely they are going to use it. Which is great, steam can get hosed.
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CrashCat posted:Doesn't matter to me, though I can't tell if the code restricts me or not since it just goes on Bethesda's site. I've got both Xbox and PS4 as well as an alright PC. In the unlikely event I actually like the game I could just cancel my Amazon order and order a different platform. I guess Xbox One is supposed to open first but I also expect that to be least popular. We have about 7 of us planning on buying the game and I know 5 for sure want to mostly PvE and build. We will be playing on the PS4. Add me on there if you are playing on that platform. I'm Mr_Hootington on psn.
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Otacon posted:So here's a few screenshots from my Sanctuary Hills running SimSettlements, Rise of the Commonwealth. Sanctuary is currently Level-2, and I'm pumped to see what Level-3 looks like but it's taking about as long in game as it did to go from Level-0 to Level-2. The other places I have SimSettlements at aren't nearly this full - they're mostly Level-1 or lower. Wow, it certainly keeps the feel of a town built using available junk. I love it! I think i'll definitely add it to my normal game. Regarding the blueprints, are there many available one or its a default thing and that's how they'll build period?
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