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Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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It was about hobo stabbings wasn't it?

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purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

Solice Kirsk posted:

It was about hobo stabbings wasn't it?

Snipe of the day

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
How I love the hobo life,
Stabbing folks with my hobo knife

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Stabbing folks with my hobo knife

Still one of my favorite Simpsons lines despite being from the decline.

GPTribefan
Jul 2, 2007
Something witty yet inspirational about the Cleveland Indians

WebDog posted:

Didn't Omar Epps' character have brain surgery and despite major cognitive issues kept on trucking like it wasn't a big deal a couple of episodes later?

No, that was Dr Greene on ER. Had a brain tumor that was causing cognitive and speech issues. Had it excised on Christmas Eve, and was back to work full time by Valentine’s Day. There was a brief story that questioned his competency, but he took a quick test and it was all good!!

I have an irrational love of ER and will defend it to anyone, but even that seemed a wee bit unrealistic to me.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Not Operator posted:

Scrubs also accurately showed that people doing their residency are permanently exhausted.

Also that the less people respect your job, the more you can just gently caress around all day so long as you're competent enough to get enough work done when necessary to make people assume you're pulling your weight. Lessons to live by.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

GPTribefan posted:

No, that was Dr Greene on ER. Had a brain tumor that was causing cognitive and speech issues. Had it excised on Christmas Eve, and was back to work full time by Valentine’s Day. There was a brief story that questioned his competency, but he took a quick test and it was all good!!

I have an irrational love of ER and will defend it to anyone, but even that seemed a wee bit unrealistic to me.

It happened to Omar Epps' character too but it was parasites in his brain IIRC, and at the end of the episode it showed either his toes were paralyzed or his brain thought his right hand was his left hand or some insane poo poo like that, but he continued working in a full capacity and it was never brought up again.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

food court bailiff posted:

It happened to Omar Epps' character too but it was parasites in his brain IIRC, and at the end of the episode it showed either his toes were paralyzed or his brain thought his right hand was his left hand or some insane poo poo like that, but he continued working in a full capacity and it was never brought up again.

Yeah he had trouble making coffee or something but somehow was able to practice medicine an episode later no problem lol

Ziv Zulander
Mar 24, 2017

ZZ for short


A lot of long running shows do stuff like that, not just medical dramas. I remember there was an episode of Star Trek where Miles spent a few (simulated) decades living in a torturous prison where he ended up murdering his cell mate for a scrap of food, and then spent the last years of his sentence in complete isolation. He went all crazy for the one episode, then by the next one it was business as usual.

Dixville
Nov 4, 2008

I don't think!
Ham Wrangler

Araenna posted:

I actually was going through old bookmarks and saw this site was down a few days ago. One of his reviews is how I figured out why my dad's urostomy bag was turning blue/purple. None of his doctors had any clue.

Um... I'm sorry but I'm too curious not to ask, was it some kind of medication side effect?



food court bailiff posted:

It happened to Omar Epps' character too but it was parasites in his brain IIRC, and at the end of the episode it showed either his toes were paralyzed or his brain thought his right hand was his left hand or some insane poo poo like that, but he continued working in a full capacity and it was never brought up again.

I thought he got Rabies from that homeless woman that drew comic books and bit him. Or maybe they just thought it could be Rabies. I remember going back and trying to binge House a while back when I found out it was on Netflix but it really does get tedious trying to watch it that way. I think a lot of more formulaic shows like that just age more awkwardly because of the change in format now that I think about it.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
All those fancy medical dramas are just one level removed from soap operas like General Hospital where you’ve got a stable of recurring plot lines (brain tumors, martial problems, evil villains) that propel the story rather than characters. So everyone’s marriage ends at some point or they get brain clouds because after 4 or 5 years you’ve run out of original storylines.

Any real person dealing with these kinds of problems would be screaming all the time. Meredith Grey should be permanently cowering in a corner rocking herself back and forth.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

I want a medical drama in the style of The Wire that's all about making the weekly metrics, dealing with funding, and all the bureaucratic BS that's in the health field. Absolutely zero scenes of practicing medicine or surgeries.

LifeLynx
Feb 27, 2001

Dang so this is like looking over his shoulder in real-time
Grimey Drawer

WebDog posted:

Didn't Omar Epps' character have brain surgery and despite major cognitive issues kept on trucking like it wasn't a big deal a couple of episodes later?

I think I remember the surgery switching his left and right sides of what his brain processed on his own body, but a few episodes later they just handwaved it away with "Oh, it was just temporary, it wore off" but it's been a while.

Torquemada
Oct 21, 2010

Drei Gläser

Mu Zeta posted:

I want a medical drama in the style of The Wire that's all about making the weekly metrics, dealing with funding, and all the bureaucratic BS that's in the health field. Absolutely zero scenes of practicing medicine or surgeries.

Featuring one scene where the head surgeons stand around looking at x rays for ten minutes and the only dialogue is the word ‘gently caress’.

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost

Mu Zeta posted:

I want a medical drama in the style of The Wire that's all about making the weekly metrics, dealing with funding, and all the bureaucratic BS that's in the health field. Absolutely zero scenes of practicing medicine or surgeries.

I, too, want to see a Garth Mehrenghi's Darkplace spinoff all about Thornton Reed.

Pastry of the Year
Apr 12, 2013

Danger - Octopus! posted:

I, too, want to see a Garth Mehrenghi's Darkplace spinoff all about Thornton Reed.

He fears only one man: Won Ton.

Blackfyre
Jul 8, 2012

I want wings.

Danger - Octopus! posted:

I, too, want to see a Garth Mehrenghi's Darkplace spinoff all about Thornton Reed.

No one ever mentions the Dean Lerner Talk show, Man to Man.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Blackfyre posted:

No one ever mentions the Dean Lerner Talk show, Man to Man.

Did that ever air in the US anywhere? I thought only Darkplace did.

Also you can't watch Darkplace anywhere now because it's behind some British streaming site only. :argh:

SEX BURRITO
Jun 30, 2007

Not much fun

Mu Zeta posted:

I want a medical drama in the style of The Wire that's all about making the weekly metrics, dealing with funding, and all the bureaucratic BS that's in the health field. Absolutely zero scenes of practicing medicine or surgeries.

I was really hoping that Cuddy episode of House was a backdoor pilot, to be set in the fascinating world of hospital administration.

Volcott
Mar 30, 2010

People paying American dollars to let other people know they didn't agree with someone's position on something is the lifeblood of these forums.
I enjoyed houlse when it aired, but I really have no desire to watch it again. I thought the season where house was in an asylum was good, but that the one where house was in jail (and the events that led up to it) were not good.

I keep meaning to watch one of those early modern medical shows like the knick, but I have not done that yet.

duck trucker
Oct 14, 2017

YOSPOS

House was great until Ambercut-throat-bitch died. It was a fun dumb show that descended into too much drama.

I also had the hugest crush on Cuddy too.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

duck trucker posted:

I also had the hugest crush on Cuddy too.

:yossame:

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


duck trucker posted:

House was great until Ambercut-throat-bitch died. It was a fun dumb show that descended into too much drama.

I also had the hugest crush on Cuddy too.

Agree. I also liked the House in the asylum episode, but the rest of that season is what made me stop watching the show.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Kind of funny how his roommate from the asylum (?) went on to become Lin-Manuel Miranda.

Samuringa
Mar 27, 2017

Best advice I was ever given?

"Ticker, you'll be a lot happier once you stop caring about the opinions of a culture that is beneath you."

I learned my worth, learned the places and people that matter.

Opened my eyes.

Dixville posted:

Um... I'm sorry but I'm too curious not to ask, was it some kind of medication side effect?


I thought he got Rabies from that homeless woman that drew comic books and bit him. Or maybe they just thought it could be Rabies. I remember going back and trying to binge House a while back when I found out it was on Netflix but it really does get tedious trying to watch it that way. I think a lot of more formulaic shows like that just age more awkwardly because of the change in format now that I think about it.

I specifically remember the diagnosis of this episode, Naegleria, which eats the victims brain, because I was terrified after watching the resolution and less than a couple of weeks later we had a case of it in my region which was a very "oh no :stare: " moment for me.

Also, they kinda show him struggling with the recovery. The end of the episode has him messing up his body's left and right side movements and the next two or three have him working with some sort of memorizing cards deck to regain his functions and generally being frustrated that he might have permanent damage, but that's it.

Araenna
Dec 27, 2012




Lipstick Apathy

Dixville posted:

Um... I'm sorry but I'm too curious not to ask, was it some kind of medication side effect?

It was due to some sort of bacteria interacting with the plastic of the bag. He had chronic infections due to having a catheter because of a stricture in his ureter.

Also, I stopped liking House when they decided to mix up addiction and dependence. As someone who suffers from chronic pain, them pushing the idea that if you are physically addicted to a medication means you should detox and live in pain made me pretty loving angry. Like, he was usually shown as not abusing them for fun, but just being in horrific pain. Maybe instead of sending him to a rehab and therapy and then back to work, they could have shown him also seeing a pain specialist? Or something other than just basically having him just deal with the pain suddenly without the pain killers he had to take just to function?

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


Araenna posted:

It was due to some sort of bacteria interacting with the plastic of the bag. He had chronic infections due to having a catheter because of a stricture in his ureter.

Also, I stopped liking House when they decided to mix up addiction and dependence. As someone who suffers from chronic pain, them pushing the idea that if you are physically addicted to a medication means you should detox and live in pain made me pretty loving angry. Like, he was usually shown as not abusing them for fun, but just being in horrific pain. Maybe instead of sending him to a rehab and therapy and then back to work, they could have shown him also seeing a pain specialist? Or something other than just basically having him just deal with the pain suddenly without the pain killers he had to take just to function?

That wouldn't be very dramatic though. Realistic dramas were not in vogue at the time.

duck trucker
Oct 14, 2017

YOSPOS

The asylum stuff was decent except they had that moment where "House is better then the professionals because he realizes a paitent is staring at a box".

CannonFodder
Jan 26, 2001

Passion’s Wrench
"Administration said we need to cut costs, starting with the highest cost department."
"What department is that?"
"Pediatric Oncology."

Torquemada posted:

Featuring one scene where the head surgeons stand around looking at x rays for ten minutes and the only dialogue is the word ‘gently caress’.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Araenna posted:

It was due to some sort of bacteria interacting with the plastic of the bag. He had chronic infections due to having a catheter because of a stricture in his ureter.

Also, I stopped liking House when they decided to mix up addiction and dependence. As someone who suffers from chronic pain, them pushing the idea that if you are physically addicted to a medication means you should detox and live in pain made me pretty loving angry. Like, he was usually shown as not abusing them for fun, but just being in horrific pain. Maybe instead of sending him to a rehab and therapy and then back to work, they could have shown him also seeing a pain specialist? Or something other than just basically having him just deal with the pain suddenly without the pain killers he had to take just to function?

Taking the amount of Vicodin he took was pretty much slow suicide, though, if only because the APAP half of the pill is great at loving up your liver.

They did some interesting stuff with his pain earlier on, though, like how the ketamine treatment he did after getting shot made it go away, albeit temporarily. Putting people in K-holes has been shown to actually do that.

e X
Feb 23, 2013

cool but crude

CannonFodder posted:

"Administration said we need to cut costs, starting with the highest cost department."
"What department is that?"
"Pediatric Oncology."

A medical show centered entirely around the billing department of a hospital.

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


e X posted:

A medical show centered entirely around the billing department of a hospital.

Clerks

wait someone did that already

Transplant Accounting? First Bill Cuts the Deepest?

Zil has a new favorite as of 20:12 on Jun 22, 2018

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug

Samuringa posted:

I specifically remember the diagnosis of this episode, Naegleria, which eats the victims brain, because I was terrified after watching the resolution and less than a couple of weeks later we had a case of it in my region which was a very "oh no :stare: " moment for me.

Also, they kinda show him struggling with the recovery. The end of the episode has him messing up his body's left and right side movements and the next two or three have him working with some sort of memorizing cards deck to regain his functions and generally being frustrated that he might have permanent damage, but that's it.

...They picked that to be the brain problem? gently caress, that kills over 90% of people who get it and otherwise I think is basically guaranteed to cause damage. It's pretty rare fortunately but really I get that it's dramatic but I can't imagine coming out of that with no damage at all.

Volcott
Mar 30, 2010

People paying American dollars to let other people know they didn't agree with someone's position on something is the lifeblood of these forums.
I'm glad Olivia Wilde does not actually have Huntington's. poo poo's rough.

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CannonFodder posted:

"Administration said we need to cut costs, starting with the highest cost department."
"What department is that?"
"Pediatric Oncology."

This really seems like the one department that would never be cut, since I imagine children with cancer are probably the best donation-getters of any group, but I’d be curious to know if that’s true or not.

Dixville
Nov 4, 2008

I don't think!
Ham Wrangler

Samuringa posted:

I specifically remember the diagnosis of this episode, Naegleria, which eats the victims brain, because I was terrified after watching the resolution and less than a couple of weeks later we had a case of it in my region which was a very "oh no :stare: " moment for me.

Also, they kinda show him struggling with the recovery. The end of the episode has him messing up his body's left and right side movements and the next two or three have him working with some sort of memorizing cards deck to regain his functions and generally being frustrated that he might have permanent damage, but that's it.

Ah, the brain eating amoeba. I remember when there were some cases where people got infected from using neti pots.
I think we may be talking about 2 different episodes though. This is the one I was thinking of:

http://house.wikia.com/wiki/Histories

I like that they have a "zebra factor" for each episode (as in, "when you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras")

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Dixville posted:

Ah, the brain eating amoeba. I remember when there were some cases where people got infected from using neti pots.
I think we may be talking about 2 different episodes though. This is the one I was thinking of:

http://house.wikia.com/wiki/Histories

I like that they have a "zebra factor" for each episode (as in, "when you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras")

Yep, the Foreman goes all cross one is this two-parter http://house.wikia.com/wiki/Euphoria_(Part_1)

Araenna
Dec 27, 2012




Lipstick Apathy

Ugly In The Morning posted:

Taking the amount of Vicodin he took was pretty much slow suicide, though, if only because the APAP half of the pill is great at loving up your liver.

They did some interesting stuff with his pain earlier on, though, like how the ketamine treatment he did after getting shot made it go away, albeit temporarily. Putting people in K-holes has been shown to actually do that.

Oh yeah, I'm not saying taking that amount of Vicodin is good. But treating it as an addiction problem and not a pain problem bothered me. I did like some of the earlier stuff with the pain, that's one reason it bothered me when they did a whole arc about his not being able to take opiates and sort of.. hand waved the consequences. Actually finding a way to deal with pain without opiates is difficult and affects your functioning quite a bit. It's probably not going to be solved with therapy and a hobby, and would affect his functioning quite a bit, if he's in so much pain he was eating Vicodin like candy. I mean, I know it wasn't a real deep drama that would want to linger on that after doing a whole season about his pain already, but they could have depicted more of that stuff as even an occasional subplot.

Dixville
Nov 4, 2008

I don't think!
Ham Wrangler

Arivia posted:

Yep, the Foreman goes all cross one is this two-parter http://house.wikia.com/wiki/Euphoria_(Part_1)

Oh so they gave the neurologist brain disease MULTIPLE times. Nice. Now that I look at that I remember that one too.
Lol I love that the article says they called to tell Cameron not to do the brain biopsy because they figured out what it was but she said she "already knew" because she already did it. Biopsy samples have to fix in formalin for a while so unless she used some other test on the tissue she wouldn't know that quickly.

Ugh great now I'm a medical nerd that ruins the show for the normal people :sigh:

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MrUnderbridge
Jun 25, 2011

e X posted:

A medical show centered entirely around the billing department of a hospital.

Oh, Jesus, give a trigger warning, will ya?

I've been fighting with Bon Secours billing for the past year over a hospital stay last year. Of the eleven months of bills, they've sent ten "Your account is severely overdue, pay full amount NOW!" notices. In every case it was due to either them not posting the payment for weeks after we made it, or in two cases flat out losing an electronic transfer. Every time they end up going "Ooopsie... my bad. Carry on". The capper was when I was told to fax them info from the bank. I called to follow up, and the guy on the other end literally said "Can't find it. Any leftover faxes at the end of Fridays are discarded."
:wtc:

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