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ChronoReverse posted:Watch Dabi pretend to be Endeavour's son to create a scandal but it turns out he's unrelated. this would play into the narrative hints and be a good beat
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Jun 23, 2018 00:33
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honestly I either want the traitor to literally not exist at this point, or be the most out of left field person like Tsuyu or someone
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Jun 23, 2018 00:41
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STANKBALLS TASTYLEGS posted:honestly I either want the traitor to literally not exist at this point, or be the most out of left field person like Tsuyu or someone It's ochako. Think about it Toga said they're the same and that obviously means they're both villains.
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Jun 23, 2018 00:47
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Onmi posted:I don't know, did you think the other brother was being kept a secret when we only met the sister when Todo first went to see his mother? Is Dabi Deku's dad because Deku's dad hasn't been shown, and why not show him while his son is competing in the sports festival? The brother not being there is weird because Endeavor being (nearly)killed on national TV is a huge event that effects the whole family. Like, even if he wasn't at the hospitable with his brother and sister, there still should have been some kind of reaction shot from him. The flashbacks have also gone out of their way to hide his face. Like, if he's not Dabi, then clearly something is going on with the brother. STANKBALLS TASTYLEGS posted:honestly I either want the traitor to literally not exist at this point, or be the most out of left field person like Tsuyu or someone The traitor is Mina because that would upset me the most.
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Roland Jones posted:High End is way too smart to be Muscular. It might have his quirk, but I'm betting someone else is the "chassis", so to speak. I'm still going with black mist, powered up by Muscular's quirk and others. We even see him transporting other Nomu through his body!
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Jun 23, 2018 01:09
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Dr Subterfuge posted:I'm basically on the same page as this post, but I'm gonna quibble here because I can. Dabi's burns look very intentional and painful, so it either lands on torture or extreme self-harm. I mean, they line up with all the parts of endeavor that are on fire all the time And just in this chapter we learned that his fire power's weakness was raising his body temp too much when he overdoes it
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Nuebot posted:I'm still going with black mist, powered up by Muscular's quirk and others. We even see him transporting other Nomu through his body! Either way he definitely has Muscular's quirk. And if that's the case, that means we might end up running into a nomu with Moonfish's quirk someday and oh god I don't want to see another tooth monster. 
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Mordaedil posted:You do know Endeavour isn't your dad, right? i, too, lack empathy
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Jun 23, 2018 01:24
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Jun 23, 2018 01:24
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This is probably dovetailed into the reveal from Vigilantes that apparently AFO or his non-Shimura toadies are genetically modifying people and can steal parts of quirk characteristics.
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Jun 23, 2018 01:27
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Wellwinds posted:I mean, they line up with all the parts of endeavor that are on fire all the time We've known about Endeavor's weakness ever since Icy Hot explained why he was Icy at the tournament. Fire raises his internal body temperature. Endeavor's weakness is basically self-inflicted heat stroke. We've only ever seen Dabi make fire out of his hands. You could say "Of course. His hands are fine. That's the only place that's safe for him to make fire." But I have trouble believing that Dabi's power is so unstable he could have brought out his fire like "Dad's" and overdid it in a completely different way. Dr Subterfuge fucked around with this message at 01:53 on Jun 23, 2018 |
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Jun 23, 2018 01:43
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Dabi is Endeavor's father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate.
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Jun 23, 2018 01:58
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Holy poo poo, just saw this on reddit and I can't stop laughing. On the Dabi topic, I figure he has something to do with Todoroki's family. He refused to give his name and had that weird narrative beat with Todoroki, so on the basis of the writing not just doing something for no reason I imagine something will come up. No idea what his actual connection is though - him being a son doesn't really fit Endeavor never thinking of him(unless the twist is that Dabi just hates Endeavor for the hardcore neglect that made him burn himself since nobody ever taught him to use his own quirk or something) but yeah, no idea. Just figure he'll have something to do with them. Hopeford fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Jun 23, 2018 |
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Rhonne posted:The brother not being there is weird because Endeavor being (nearly)killed on national TV is a huge event that effects the whole family. Like, even if he wasn't at the hospitable with his brother and sister, there still should have been some kind of reaction shot from him. The flashbacks have also gone out of their way to hide his face. Like, if he's not Dabi, then clearly something is going on with the brother. And yet when Endeavor is going "The despair of it... drove me to..." He's not thinking of some shadowed child alongside Shoto and Rei. He can't be regretful and think he's a bastard regarding Shoto and his wife, and yet not a wayward son who's fallen to villainy? So even if we concede that Dabi is Endeavor's son... Clearly, Endeavor didn't do anything to him. Which means it's not relevant. The other kids make it clear that Endeavor barely gave a gently caress about them. I'd more buy into Dabi having been a villain that Endeavor burned or defeated, or perhaps a fanboy who, upon realizing what a jerk he was, burned himself. Or just completely unrelated.
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I mean, Dabi is one of the only other major characters we've seen with a fire generation quirk, he's got the same eye color as Endeavor and Shoto (which the anime draws attention to,) he's motivated by dissatisfaction with the behavior of modern heroes, he's one of the only villains we know of whose actual identity stays a mystery, and the narrative has, in multiple occasions, drawn attention to the fact that there's a member of the Todoroki family of the right age that we've never seen in the current time. Horikoshi would not put all of these details together unless we were supposed to draw an inference.
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Jun 23, 2018 02:23
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Honestly between Endeavor, Bakugo, Dabi, and Deku's father I think Horikoshi just likes fire-related powers.
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Viridiant posted:Honestly between Endeavor, Bakugo, Dabi, and Deku's father I think Horikoshi just likes fire-related powers. Dekudad isn't a major character and Bakugous powers aren't fire-powers in the way Endeavor, Shoto and Dabis are.
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There's even a pretty general resemblance between Dabi and Todoroki that isn't all that much of a stretch. The theory isn't like a 100% lock but to act like it's a flat-out stupid theory is just willfully refusing to spot details.
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Jun 23, 2018 02:50
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I don't think it's stupid. I also don't think it's likely.
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Jun 23, 2018 02:55
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Writers drop hints and poo poo all the time, that doesn't stop people from being weirdly dismissive of other people bringing attention to those hints. The real question is, are the hints adding up to what people think they are or are they adding up to an anti-climactic gotcha?
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Jun 23, 2018 02:58
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Now the traitor stuff, that I just block out completely.
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Xarbala posted:Now the traitor stuff, that I just block out completely. No but see Kaminari is the traitor because he didnt' turn his head to look at Shoto like the rest, he was looking at the TV. EDIT: To clarify I actually saw someone say this
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Patware posted:There's even a pretty general resemblance between Dabi and Todoroki that isn't all that much of a stretch. The theory isn't like a 100% lock but to act like it's a flat-out stupid theory is just willfully refusing to spot details. It's stupid because it requires everyone in the family to have unexplained amnesia that like I said would rival FF8's stupid amnesia.
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Maybe Dabi is endeavor's nephew
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Xarbala posted:Now the traitor stuff, that I just block out completely. There's been so little info on the traitor stuff that, at this point, if there is someone leaking info to the League, I don't think they're doing it intentionally or of their own free will.
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Rhonne posted:There's been so little info on the traitor stuff that, at this point, if there is someone leaking info to the League, I don't think they're doing it intentionally or of their own free will. Social Media strikes again! I'd actually kind of like that to be the resolution to that whole "plot", that enough people just casually slipped up that the villains pieced it together without much difficulty.
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Nuebot posted:Social Media strikes again! La Brava did show us that UA's cyber security is kind of poo poo.
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Nuebot posted:Social Media strikes again! The issue with that is when we look at Camp. They were in the middle of a forest they had no way of knowing was the campsite because it's not what was advertised for them. Only someone at camp who could have communicated it could let them know, or a staff member who knew. That's a limited selection.
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Kild posted:It's stupid because it requires everyone in the family to have unexplained amnesia that like I said would rival FF8's stupid amnesia. The only person from the Todoroki family to directly encounter Dabi so far, iirc, is Shoto, who is only 15. If Dabi really is the third Todoroki brother, he could have hosed off long enough ago that Shoto doesn't have clear enough memories to recognize him on sight, especially if Dabi wasn't as horrifically hosed looking back then.
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JahRoo posted:Maybe Dabi is endeavor's nephew Dabi is Endeavor. After all, we've never seen them in the same place...
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:The only person from the Todoroki family to directly encounter Dabi so far, iirc, is Shoto, who is only 15. If Dabi really is the third Todoroki brother, he could have hosed off long enough ago that Shoto doesn't have clear enough memories to recognize him on sight, especially if Dabi wasn't as horrifically hosed looking back then. So no photos, no videos, no anything? No mention of his brother missing or loving off or being abused or having a slightly different quirk? No 'not again' when she see Endeavor abusing Todoroki? Endeavor also would have not had access or looked at any of the villain alliance memberlist the police had?
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Kild posted:So no photos, no videos, no anything? No mention of his brother missing or loving off or being abused or having a slightly different quirk? No 'not again' when she see Endeavor abusing Todoroki? Endeavor also would have not had access or looked at any of the villain alliance memberlist the police had? I mean a lot of this could be explained by whatever cause his appearance is something he did himself/something after he separated from the family. Also I don't think Dabi is his real name, it's like Spinner or Magnee. it's a villainous moniker. When the heroes raiding the alliance list off names do they give Dabi's out?
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:I mean a lot of this could be explained by whatever cause his appearance is something he did himself/something after he separated from the family. Also I don't think Dabi is his real name, it's like Spinner or Magnee. it's a villainous moniker. When the heroes raiding the alliance list off names do they give Dabi's out? Dabi's not his real name. (It's japanese for Cremation apparently) He's the one of the two they don't have a real name for, Kurogiri being the other. Kild fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Jun 23, 2018 |
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:I mean a lot of this could be explained by whatever cause his appearance is something he did himself/something after he separated from the family. Also I don't think Dabi is his real name, it's like Spinner or Magnee. it's a villainous moniker. When the heroes raiding the alliance list off names do they give Dabi's out? Nope. Which is kind of a hint that, you know, his name is actually relevant.
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chiasaur11 posted:Nope. I don't doubt his name is relevant, I just... don't think it's a good revelation for him to be a failed Endeavor prodigy, It's not been properly hinted at, and if it was the case I'd be loving annoyed we had all these internal thoughts and not one thought like that. You know, is what I say, but I don't doubt whatever Hori does I'll be going "And that's why you're the master."
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Onmi posted:The issue with that is when we look at Camp. They were in the middle of a forest they had no way of knowing was the campsite because it's not what was advertised for them. Only someone at camp who could have communicated it could let them know, or a staff member who knew. That's a limited selection. I'm gonna muddy the waters here a bit by noting that any of the kids could have whipped out their phone (or other communication device) during the run through the Forest of Magical Beasts and sent a "We're here" message with GPS coordinates. Since the bad guys didn't show up until night of the second day, they had plenty of time to prepare.
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Mirage posted:I'm gonna muddy the waters here a bit by noting that any of the kids could have whipped out their phone (or other communication device) during the run through the Forest of Magical Beasts and sent a "We're here" message with GPS coordinates. Since the bad guys didn't show up until night of the second day, they had plenty of time to prepare. But if we take the anime's added bit where Shigaraki says "The master found them" then everything just goes insane.
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