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ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





canyonero posted:

ConfusedUs, post some good/dumb Rebel or Scum lists that I can fly tonight and not hate myself (no/few bombs or poons).

I got you fam, but after lunch.

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Rhjamiz
Oct 28, 2007

I have an imp/scum list I've been meaning to try that involves two Firesprays with anti pursuit lasers, missiles and cluster mines, using their low pilot skill to just get in the way and cause traffic jams and bumps. You can use that :v

I also have a three star viper list using either pulse rays or autothrusters and PTL to dance around and be as obnoxious as they can. I dunno which is better for that tho.

enigmahfc
Oct 10, 2003

EFF TEE DUB!!
EFF TEE DUB!!

canyonero posted:

ConfusedUs, post some good/dumb Rebel or Scum lists that I can fly tonight and not hate myself (no/few bombs or poons).

You want dumb? I'll give you dumb
Jan Ors — HWK-290 25
Veteran Instincts 1
Dorsal Turret 3
Kanan Jarrus 3
Vectored Thrusters 2
Ship Total: 34

Corran Horn — E-Wing 35
Expertise 4
Fire-Control System 2
R2-D2 4
Ship Total: 45

Airen Cracken — Z-95 Headhunter 19
Snap Shot 2
Ship Total: 21

canyonero
Aug 3, 2006
I should clarify that it's a 4 round tournament and I'd like to go 2-2. So dumb but okay, bust mostly dumb.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





canyonero posted:

I should clarify that it's a 4 round tournament and I'd like to go 2-2. So dumb but okay, bust mostly dumb.

https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f...rran%2FRex&obs=

This is a really scary jousting list. You'll get wrecked by anything that goes under Corran's shields (Kylo, Proton Bombs, multiple harpoons (one probably won't hurt you)) but does well against most everything else. Swarm Leader on Lowhhrick is just hilarious. I'm like 25-10 with this list, and almost every one of those losses was to Kylo or Nym.

https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f...oe%20Solo!&obs=

Set up Han at approximately range 4 of something you're likely to kill with a 5-die cruise missile shot. Go 4-forward, and kill it. Next round, try to bump into or arc dodge the enemy formation, so Han doesn't die. If you do this right you'll get the cruise missile back and be able to strafe them again in a couple of turns. Poe should go as fast as possible to get there on turn 3ish. Loses instantly to FennGhost, but stacks up hilariously well against almost anything else. I'm like 8-2 with this.

https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f...su%20Bossk&obs=
If you haven't flown this yet, you have to. Just once. You'll get smoked by anything with Black One, but you're going to erase a ship a turn otherwise.

A few tips:
-Start with Ketsu's arc forward, and always joust.
-If you can make them bump Ketsu, you win. Peel them off your front bumper with the tractor beam, and go to town.
-Always shoot with Ketsu first, and try to use the beam to get them in Bossk's primary arc.
-Don't forget that chips is once per round.

https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Scum%20and%20Villainy&d=v4!s!212:18,-1:43:15:;265:-1:55:15:T.16,U.36,U.128&sn=Scum%20Aces&obs=
Fenn + Thweek + third ship of your choice. My favorite is probably Guri (PTL/Stim/New title/Autothrusters) or a good 'ol bumpmaster. Also works well with a party bus!

canyonero
Aug 3, 2006
Thanks! Definitely going with Old/New Han & Poe or that Bossk & Ketsu list.

Edit:

ConfusedUs posted:

https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f...su%20Bossk&obs=
If you haven't flown this yet, you have to. Just once. You'll get smoked by anything with Black One, but you're going to erase a ship a turn otherwise.

A few tips:
-Start with Ketsu's arc forward, and always joust.
-If you can make them bump Ketsu, you win. Peel them off your front bumper with the tractor beam, and go to town.
-Always shoot with Ketsu first, and try to use the beam to get them in Bossk's primary arc.
-Don't forget that chips is once per round.

3-1. Can confirm this is fun. Really enjoyed erasing ships in a single round of combat. Even if they're going to eventually get someone behind Bossk, you've already decimated their squad. Only wound up losing points in 2 of 4 games.

Now I kind of want to bring it to store champs, but I would hate to see how bad it would be against Nymranda.

canyonero fucked around with this message at 18:33 on Jun 21, 2018

ChuckBTY
Feb 14, 2012
Has anyone come up with something clever to fly the Saw's Renegade ships in that might not be awful? I'm running a tournament tomorrow and I'm the "I play if they need an even number of players" guy. I don't necessarily want to win but I'd like to make them sweat a little.

If not with the U-wing I'd take a fleet of X-wings.

lazerus06
May 19, 2004

ChuckBTY posted:

Has anyone come up with something clever to fly the Saw's Renegade ships in that might not be awful? I'm running a tournament tomorrow and I'm the "I play if they need an even number of players" guy. I don't necessarily want to win but I'd like to make them sweat a little.

If not with the U-wing I'd take a fleet of X-wings.

So jealous, there is a tournament next Saturday and the guy running isn't allowing wave 14 for some dumb reason. I so wanted to fly a reaper or some new and improved T65s.

alg
Mar 14, 2007

A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

The tournament rules say 11 days between release and the tournament, I think

Edit: I kind of regret buying Saw's Renegades, the models are kind of poo poo and with cards that don't even work for 2.0, it was a waste of money

alg fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Jun 22, 2018

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

ChuckBTY posted:

Has anyone come up with something clever to fly the Saw's Renegade ships in that might not be awful? I'm running a tournament tomorrow and I'm the "I play if they need an even number of players" guy. I don't necessarily want to win but I'd like to make them sweat a little.

If not with the U-wing I'd take a fleet of X-wings.

Hey, I'm also going to a tourney tomorrow! Here's what I'm personally thinking:

pre:
Saw Gerrera (26)
Draw Their Fire (1)
Thrust Corrector (1)
Renegade Refit (-2)
Hera Syndulla (1)
"Chopper" (0)
Pivot Wing (0)

Wes Janson (29)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Renegade Refit (-2)
R3-A2 (2)
Servomotor S-Foils (0)
Integrated Astromech (0)

Wedge Antilles (29)
Opportunist (4)
Renegade Refit (-2)
R2 Astromech (1)
Servomotor S-Foils (0)
Integrated Astromech (0)

Captain Rex (14)

Total: 100
Opportunist on Wedge is probably trying to be too clever by half, and would probably be much better if replaced with PtL. On the other hand, this will probably be the last 1.0 tournament I have a chance to play in, so why not have some fun with it?

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





I'm gonna fly Incredible Bulk but one of the Lothal Rebels has Saw instead of Wookiees.

flightless greeb
Jan 28, 2016

alg posted:

The tournament rules say 11 days between release and the tournament, I think

Edit: I kind of regret buying Saw's Renegades, the models are kind of poo poo and with cards that don't even work for 2.0, it was a waste of money

What's up with the models? Isn't the U- Wing the same as the old one?

Secret Machine
Jun 20, 2005

What the Hell?

How’s the new reaper model? Is it decent quality and are the 2.0 cards properly spellchecked?

polynominal-c
Jan 18, 2003

Secret Machine posted:

How’s the new reaper model? Is it decent quality and are the 2.0 cards properly spellchecked?

They still misspelled 'raper'

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats

ConfusedUs posted:

I'm gonna fly Incredible Bulk but one of the Lothal Rebels has Saw instead of Wookiees.

Get out of my head!

uncle blog
Nov 18, 2012

Anybody tried 2.0 with the stuff from wave 14?

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




polynominal-c posted:

They still misspelled 'raper'

How about you don't do this?

banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004




I wonder how bad a Lothal Rebel with 3 crackshot X-wings would be. I kinda just wanna do dumb jank poo poo for Store champs

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





banned from Starbucks posted:

I wonder how bad a Lothal Rebel with 3 crackshot X-wings would be. I kinda just wanna do dumb jank poo poo for Store champs

This is the summer of jank. Play what you want.

That's probably a pretty solid list on the joust.

lazerus06
May 19, 2004
Trying to narrow down what to bring to a tournament next weekend. Something with new toys:
YT-1300: •Rey (62)
Engine Upgrade (4)
•Millennium Falcon (HotR) (1)
Expertise (4)
•Kanan Jarrus (3)
•Finn (5)

U-Wing: •Saw Guerrera (38)
Engine Upgrade (4)
Autothrusters (2)
Pivot Wing (Attack) (0)
Push the Limit (2)
Thrust Corrector (1)
Renegade Refit (-2)
•Jan Ors (2)
Recon Specialist (3)

Total: 100/100

Or

TIE Advanced: •Darth Vader (35)
Engine Upgrade (4)
TIE/x1 (0)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Advanced Targeting Computer (1)

TIE Defender: •Countess Ryad (36)
Twin Ion Engine Mk. II (1)
TIE/x7 (-2)
Push the Limit (3)

TIE Reaper: Scarif Base Pilot (29)
Lightweight Frame (2)
Advanced Ailerons (0)
•Director Krennic (5)
Courier Droid (0)

Total: 100/100

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

lazerus06 posted:

Trying to narrow down what to bring to a tournament next weekend. Something with new toys:
YT-1300: •Rey (62)
Engine Upgrade (4)
•Millennium Falcon (HotR) (1)
Expertise (4)
•Kanan Jarrus (3)
•Finn (5)

U-Wing: •Saw Guerrera (38)
Engine Upgrade (4)
Autothrusters (2)
Pivot Wing (Attack) (0)
Push the Limit (2)
Thrust Corrector (1)
Renegade Refit (-2)
•Jan Ors (2)
Recon Specialist (3)

Total: 100/100

Or

TIE Advanced: •Darth Vader (35)
Engine Upgrade (4)
TIE/x1 (0)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Advanced Targeting Computer (1)

TIE Defender: •Countess Ryad (36)
Twin Ion Engine Mk. II (1)
TIE/x7 (-2)
Push the Limit (3)

TIE Reaper: Scarif Base Pilot (29)
Lightweight Frame (2)
Advanced Ailerons (0)
•Director Krennic (5)
Courier Droid (0)

Total: 100/100

So from my limited experience flying Saw yesterday, I love him and think he has a ton of potential, but you have to go whole hog on stress. That means:

-Accepting you’ll never have any actions.
-Taking Hera crew for infinite 0 stops and 180 flips.
-Not putting too many points into him (Since 8 HP with two defense dice isn’t particularly durable)
-Understanding that, at his core, Saw is a support ship-his real value is in providing rerolls to other stressed ships.

To get the most out of Saw and lists with Saw in them, the best thing to do, in my view, is going to be to fill it with ships that can self-stress. In my case yesterday, I used Wes with Stressbot and Wedge with Opportunist, and got a ton of utility having access to extra re-rolls. When flown properly, it’s like having Predator on all your ships for free-with, obviously, some significant limiting factors.

Finster Dexter
Oct 20, 2014

Beyond is Finster's mad vision of Earth transformed.

lazerus06 posted:

Trying to narrow down what to bring to a tournament next weekend. Something with new toys:
YT-1300: •Rey (62)
Engine Upgrade (4)
•Millennium Falcon (HotR) (1)
Expertise (4)
•Kanan Jarrus (3)
•Finn (5)

U-Wing: •Saw Guerrera (38)
Engine Upgrade (4)
Autothrusters (2)
Pivot Wing (Attack) (0)
Push the Limit (2)
Thrust Corrector (1)
Renegade Refit (-2)
•Jan Ors (2)
Recon Specialist (3)

Total: 100/100

Or

TIE Advanced: •Darth Vader (35)
Engine Upgrade (4)
TIE/x1 (0)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Advanced Targeting Computer (1)

TIE Defender: •Countess Ryad (36)
Twin Ion Engine Mk. II (1)
TIE/x7 (-2)
Push the Limit (3)

TIE Reaper: Scarif Base Pilot (29)
Lightweight Frame (2)
Advanced Ailerons (0)
•Director Krennic (5)
Courier Droid (0)

Total: 100/100

That Rey build is one of my favorite pancake builds in the game, so that's what I'd go with, but also Vader.

DogCop
Aug 6, 2008

Bake him away, toys.
Scum Falcon article is up

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2018/6/25/got-it-where-it-counts/

13 health with the escape pod seems like a lot. Also looking forward to setting us up the bomb with Autopilot Drone.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:
My god I am so hype for this expansion

enigmahfc
Oct 10, 2003

EFF TEE DUB!!
EFF TEE DUB!!
Wanna fly just 6-7 Autopilot drones in a straight line across the board and see what my opponent does. One way or the other, that match is over pretty quick.

edit: with Dead Man's Switch

enigmahfc fucked around with this message at 16:43 on Jun 25, 2018

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

WTF I didn't even realize or know that you can lock onto obstacles in 2.0

overdesigned
Apr 10, 2003

We are compassion...
Lipstick Apathy

quote:

In X-Wing Second Edition, ships can acquire locks on objects in addition to ships

This is gonna be an interesting design space.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





AndyElusive posted:

WTF I didn't even realize or know that you can lock onto obstacles in 2.0

Yeah you can lock anything on the board except tokens. Friendlies, enemies, obstacles, whatever.

overdesigned posted:

This is gonna be an interesting design space.

Yep.

lazerus06
May 19, 2004
Lothal rebel with Saw Crew, FCS could be nasty.
Pair it up with Super Dash and that sounds like deadly combo

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





lazerus06 posted:

Lothal rebel with Saw Crew, FCS could be nasty.
Pair it up with Super Dash and that sounds like deadly combo

Oh it is quite nasty. Hera + FCS + Saw is completely actionless dice modification with a fully open dial at all times. Or drop Hera and just Evade each round for even more effective HP.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:

enigmahfc posted:

Wanna fly just 6-7 Autopilot drones in a straight line across the board and see what my opponent does. One way or the other, that match is over pretty quick.

edit: with Dead Man's Switch

Isn't it unique?

Ringo Star Get
Sep 18, 2006

JUST FUCKING TAKE OFF ALREADY, SHIT
That ship is going to be expensive I’m sure if you pair it with the escape pod for the additional HP. Also kind of miffed that the escape actually has attack dice.

Bistromatic
Oct 3, 2004

And turn the inner eye
To see its path...

enigmahfc posted:

Wanna fly just 6-7 Autopilot drones in a straight line across the board and see what my opponent does. One way or the other, that match is over pretty quick.

edit: with Dead Man's Switch


bunnyofdoom posted:

Isn't it unique?

It seems to be. That's what the dot means, right?

If they can really also equip a dead mans switch i'm gonna try to build a giant torpedo with a skull on the front that fits into the slot.

enigmahfc
Oct 10, 2003

EFF TEE DUB!!
EFF TEE DUB!!

bunnyofdoom posted:

Isn't it unique?

Why you got to break my dreams with logic?

Finster Dexter
Oct 20, 2014

Beyond is Finster's mad vision of Earth transformed.

enigmahfc posted:

Why you got to break my dreams with logic?

Don't worry, just wait for Funwing Second Edition.

Cobbsprite
May 6, 2012

Threatening stuffed animals for fun and profit.

Finster Dexter posted:

Don't worry, just wait for Funwing Second Edition.

I heard that in Funwing Second Edition you can put the unique Han Solo crew card on the unique Han Solo ship AND IT STILL COUNTS.

Bistromatic
Oct 3, 2004

And turn the inner eye
To see its path...

Cobbsprite posted:

I heard that in Funwing Second Edition you can put the unique Han Solo crew card on the unique Han Solo ship AND IT STILL COUNTS.

1337 Falcon, 1337 Escape Pod, 1337 Crew,
Your bank maneuvers are now ultraviolet.

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

Cobbsprite posted:

I heard that in Funwing Second Edition you can put the unique Han Solo crew card on the unique Han Solo ship AND IT STILL COUNTS.

Now this is Funwing!

Cobbsprite
May 6, 2012

Threatening stuffed animals for fun and profit.
Honestly I would be okay with an EPT that let you use the crew ability of a named pilot, but it should definitely come with a cost.

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Bistromatic
Oct 3, 2004

And turn the inner eye
To see its path...
A card that requires you to have two characters that have both a crew and a pilot version. At the end of the round it allows you to gain a stress token to switch pilot and crew.

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