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Jose posted:i have a pm containing a goons intentionally prolapsed anus and some sounding pictures as well i can share if you or anyone else is curious just how bad they are the prolapse peddler ._.
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Kurtofan posted:I think he's talking about the pundits being idiots about it A third option! You're probably right. I hadn't thought that side out.
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Soulex posted:So you're embarrassed because he's not ethnically Swiss or because he is celebrating his heritage against a nation that was extremely violent towards his family? No, I’m embarrassed by Swiss football culture and Swiss culture in general having trouble with simple concepts like hybrid identities, dual citizenship and the like. I mean, just to give you an example of the reactions here, the Swiss pundits on TV didn’t condemn the double eagle gesture because it‘s a manifestation of a stupid sentiment - nationalism -, they condemned it because they would’ve preferred it if Xhaka and Shaqiri had made a different gesture, a „Swiss cross“ (there is no such gesture but whatever). That’s just dumb, they should either accept that the two players have complex plural identities or condemn nationalist semiotics altogether. The Germans have a similar problem - when Müller plays like utter dogshit, nobody really cares, when Özil makes his stupid face and plays badly, everyone goes omg maybe he’s actually Turkish and I’ve always said it’s weird that he doesn’t sing the national anthem like WHERE DO HIS ACTUAL LOYALTIES LIE???? HUH??? Just dumb tribalism and stoking the fear of the OTHER. Sorry I wasn’t clearer before. Wengy fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Jun 22, 2018 |
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Jun 22, 2018 23:28
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Shaqiri should denounce the KLA imo
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Jun 22, 2018 23:42
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I appreciate effort posts like this. Interesting stuff.
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Wengy posted:No, I’m embarrassed by Swiss football culture and Swiss culture in general having trouble with simple concepts like hybrid identities, dual citizenship and the like. You're right and I was wrong to assume otherwise. I completely understand the sentiment. Nationalism is a plague and affects many cultures. I loving hate that people confuse patriotism with nationalism. I totally get it.
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Jun 23, 2018 00:25
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Soulex posted:You're right and I was wrong to assume otherwise. I completely understand the sentiment. Nationalism is a plague and affects many cultures. I loving hate that people confuse patriotism with nationalism. Do you really? Every time you see the word Albania you freak the gently caress out.
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Jun 23, 2018 01:30
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Because what usually follows is some bullshit stereotype. Or something racist.
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Jun 23, 2018 01:47
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Man Serbia got hosed over, how did the ref not check VAR for that penalty claim during the corner kick? As blatant a penalty as it gets
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Jun 23, 2018 02:36
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Soulex posted:Nationalism is a plague 
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Jun 23, 2018 11:37
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Wengy posted:No, I’m embarrassed by Swiss football culture and Swiss culture in general having trouble with simple concepts like hybrid identities, dual citizenship and the like. I'm a Swiss with dual citizenship and I approve this message.
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Jun 23, 2018 12:12
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When I score for Holland I will make the gesture of the Swiss cross
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Jun 23, 2018 12:13
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Not a nice day to be Serbian. I feel like if my country had more money and didn't recently end up on the wrong end of a few wars we'd probably have gotten a penalty kick for that wrestling match... Disgraceful. I don't care what your politics are, leave them outside the pitch this isn't acceptable behavior. If team USA did a Hail Trump ya'll wouldn't say poo poo but you love that Albanian Eagle just to rub salt into a sensitive subject.
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Kraftwerk posted:I don't care what your politics are, leave them outside the pitch this isn't acceptable behavior. Kraftwerk posted:I feel like if my country had more money and didn't recently end up on the wrong end of a few wars we'd probably have gotten a penalty kick for that wrestling match... Disgraceful. 
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Jun 23, 2018 22:27
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Kraftwerk posted:Not a nice day to be Serbian. Maybe shoulda won those wars
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Jun 23, 2018 22:32
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Kraftwerk posted:Not a nice day to be Serbian. 
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What's your point? Gotta hold the players to a higher standard than the fans. If the Serbian players were waving 3 fingers around I'd be equally disappointed. Not to mention the Albanians were playing for the Swiss team yet it seemed like they were more interested in scoring the goal for Albania/Kosovo than they were for the nation they were representing. Even if you hate Serbia you should not be cheering on the bad ref calls and behavior of the swiss players because when it happens to your team and the ref doesn't call it you're gonna be the one sitting in my position. Kraftwerk fucked around with this message at 23:08 on Jun 23, 2018 |
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Jun 23, 2018 23:02
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well FIFA is investigating the players for making birdy signs and not the fans wearing shirts featuring a genocidal maniac, so there you go
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Jun 23, 2018 23:11
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Kraftwerk posted:Not a nice day to be Serbian. I see your point op and it’s reasonable. However we in England we won all the important wars and the reffing is still terrible, maybe FIFA was rooting for the other side
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Kraftwerk posted:Not a nice day to be Serbian. I think you grossly underestimate my utter loving hatred for trump. I kneel at loving sports games, I protest, and also shut the gently caress up. Last I recall Serbia did the whole genocide thing, with mass graves. I know people personally affected by the bullshit Serbia did. You're like Israel shooting Palestinians going "BUT THEY'RE MUSLIM!" You want acceptable behavior? Try not chanting regionally discriminatory remarks during the game. What the gently caress did you think was going to happen?
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Soulex posted:I think you grossly underestimate my utter loving hatred for trump. I kneel at loving sports games, I protest, and also shut the gently caress up. Last I recall Serbia did the whole genocide thing, with mass graves. I know people personally affected by the bullshit Serbia did. You're like Israel shooting Palestinians going "BUT THEY'RE MUSLIM!" KLA committed lots of ethnic cleansing and atrocities too and organ theft. Bad poo poo for sure. But back to the point, It was wrong what the swiss players did, and they should get suspended like Simunic had his career ended for saying za dom spremni
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African AIDS cum posted:Sir this is an Arby's This is true, but no where near the levels of the other side. Serbia displaced 90% of Kosovo. KLA isn't guilt free, and they did some hosed up poo poo too. IIRC, a lot of the KLA brought up on charges were much later or ended up with charges dropped. I'm not going to paint them in a positive light by saying it's ok because they were being oppressed and invaded. War crimes aren't ok regardless of what side you're on. Xhaka's father was held as a political prisoner for 3 1/2 years. The conflict happened 20 years ago, and backlash is going to continue to happen. This is akin to them taking a knee, yet we want to assume that footballers all have backgrounds that are politically neutral. They aren't allowed to be real people, just signs and symbols that represent the ideals of a corporation that employs them. This might be a different story from your side, and I respect that. I may not understand it but I respect it. They have a different story too.
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