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CheesyDog posted:god imagine the kind of moron who reads a self-help book Imagine being the kind of idiot who publically opines about things while bragging that they haven’t done their research on it
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they don't make any good points, skeeter. they can't.
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Jun 24, 2018 03:17
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Commie NedFlanders posted:Imagine being the kind of idiot who publically opines about things while bragging that they haven’t done their research on it i'm imagining Jordan Peterson?
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Jun 24, 2018 03:17
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CheesyDog posted:i'm imagining Jordan Peterson? Add a bunch of mystical Jungian tripe and you're dead on.
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Jun 24, 2018 03:18
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Love Rat posted:Add a bunch of mystical Jungian tripe and you're dead on. I create a Jordan Peterson tulpa with my bog witch chaos magic
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Jun 24, 2018 03:23
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I have never seen a criticism of Jordan Peterson that had anything to do with anything he's actually said.
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Jun 24, 2018 03:25
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Who What Now posted:Debating only works if the other side wants a debate, which Peterson and his supporters don't want. How are you supposed to hold a conversation with someone who will ignore the points that you make and just push on to spew out more platitudes their supporters will eagerly lap up? And then after the "debate" all of their fans will agree that they totally destroyed the libtard cuck. Peterson, Shapiro and the rest are becoming advocates of free speech and free debate, they are protecting the right to have dialogues and defending our right to think and speak freely The people trying to “de-platform” people they disagree with are anti-free speech We cannot afford to lose free speech, whether it’s right wingers or left wingers who are trying to be authoritarians
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Jun 24, 2018 03:28
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CheesyDog posted:I create a Jordan Peterson tulpa with my bog witch chaos magic I have drawn my own blood with the phallus-shaped runestone and stirred it counterclockwise into the mixture of menstrual fluids of a she-goat , and now, speaking the sacred words of the elders, stand ready to cast my level 6 Spell of Room Cleaning.
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Jun 24, 2018 03:28
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Commie NedFlanders posted:or because you oppose the government telling you that you have to use correct PC pronouns? The law says you cannot harrass someone for being a protected class, don't be disingenuous.
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Jun 24, 2018 03:29
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El Boot posted:I have never seen a criticism of Jordan Peterson that had anything to do with anything he's actually said. must not have read any. Commie NedFlanders posted:Peterson, Shapiro and the rest are becoming advocates of free speech and free debate, they are protecting the right to have dialogues and defending our right to think and speak freely lmao
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Jun 24, 2018 03:29
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Commie NedFlanders posted:Admit it if they make any good points, admit it when you are wrong, and form sound arguments to further your position or criticize their positions . Sweet, as soon as they make a good point I'll openly admit it. So, what's they best you have?
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Commie NedFlanders posted:The Left is too drat soft, utterly incapable of arguing in good faith, Sup Commie, been a while buddy. Hope you have more hilarious posts. However, on this topic, I don't agree with your statements.
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Jun 24, 2018 03:32
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Commie NedFlanders posted:Admit it if they make any good points, admit it when you are wrong, and form sound arguments to further your position or criticize their positions . Ok, here we go: They have no good points.
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Commie NedFlanders posted:Peterson, Shapiro and the rest are becoming advocates of free speech and free debate, they are protecting the right to have dialogues and defending our right to think and speak freely CONGRATU-loving-LATION YOU JUST DUNKED YOURSELF IN THE KOOL-AID! I mean holy poo poo, am I missing the joke here? Is this a parody account?
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Jun 24, 2018 03:36
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i'm assuming he's pulling these quotes from somewhere.
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Jun 24, 2018 03:36
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I think there should b gullotines erected in every town square for the harvest time feast on the flesh of the wealthy. Where is my platform?
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Actually the goal of the conservative "free speech" advocates is to chase the left out of discourse altogether so they can impose their own limits on speech. That's been their goal going back to Horowitz's campaign against "leftwing" professors back in the nineties and early aughts. The ACLU supports free speech. These conservatives claim to but are actually engaged in kulturkampf because the realize that to create their ideal society they will need to make their conservative beliefs as mainstream as possible. They see academia as a place of resistance that has to be overcome to indoctrinate the next generation in "right thinking." So, cultural Marxism (they're too retarded to know they're using the term wrong, or just being shifty) has to go and be replaced with what they consider appropriate ideology. They see themselves as restorers of an older model of thinking. And speech is the just catalyst for it. If the students and professors resist your conservative beliefs, call it censorship, make it about the principle of the thing (conservative students are being oppressed). The best part is the campus left is very thin-skinned (because they are young), so you get them all worked up and then say "see, the left is intolerant of our beliefs." Once you have the public angry at the student and academic left, you can extend that to an all-out attack on every college institution (race-conscious admissions, safe spaces for minority students, LGBT orgs, "PC" curriculum, sexual misconduct investigators, etc.). That's what they're really doing. They're using the cover of free speech to concern troll and bait the left so they can transform colleges into conservative institutions. It's a very smart strategy actually.
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Commie NedFlanders posted:Peterson, Shapiro and the rest are becoming advocates of free speech and free debate, they are protecting the right to have dialogues and defending our right to think and speak freely You suck. Edit: you're also a huge moron. Audit classes at your local community college. Learn something for once in your life. Nice Guy Patron has issued a correction as of 03:49 on Jun 24, 2018 |
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Peterson is such an advocate of free speech that he's suing a college for millions of dollars in order to "send a message" in his own words not to speak badly of him. What a great advocate for allowing all speech!
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Also, the idea that restrictions on speech within a private or public institution is a slippery slop to censoring all speech is completely ridiculous, akin to arguing that background checks will lead to confiscation of all guns or that a public assistance program is the first step toward Stalinist tyranny. Other countries impose reasonable restrictions on speech, and some of them are even more liberal than we are when it comes to what is acceptable to say in public. Private workplaces already have restrictions on speech across the board. You can't write "kill the Jews" on a board and expect to keep your job because most people believe in having a non-hostile work environment where all employees feel welcomed, you know, so they can do their jobs. It is not censorship to terminate someone because they made coworkers feel threatened. Only a retard would yell censorship if someone at Google got fired for hanging a noose over a black employee's cubicle. Well the same thing goes for college. People marching around shouting "Jew will not replace us!" creates an environment where large segment of the student body actually fear for their lives and feel unwelcome, which will affect their academic performance as assuredly as racist comments will affect performance in a workplace. Not to mention the fact that the 1st amendment doesn't even apply to private colleges. I personally don't believe in deplatforming people like the Bell Curve authors because I believe their discredited work should be held up to academic scrutiny. Because their work is academic in nature, it can be attacked academically. I don't think they need to be physically shoved or shouted down. And even though I think Petetson and his ilk are obnoxious hucksters, their points can be attacked in a civil and, hopefully embarrassing, manner. They wrote stupid arguments. Attack the arguments. But there is a big difference between merely insipid academic work and the performance of clowns like Spencer and Milo. They are not academics, they have no body of research, they add nothing to the mission of higher education, and their words are designed to encourage real loving violence (their speech is the verbal equivalent of burning a cross on someone's lawn). And imo, colleges have no obligation to invite or provide platforms for these clowns. Screaming and yelling at these rear end in a top hat isn't gonna kill them, and not opposing them is akin to not opposing or disciplining the employee who hung the noose. Colleges are places to learn and there is no place for threats. So gently caress em. Keep them out. Love Rat has issued a correction as of 04:00 on Jun 24, 2018 |
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Love Rat posted:Well the same thing goes for college. People marching around shouting "Jew will not replace us!" creates an environment where large segment of the student body actually fear for their lives and feel unwelcome, which will affect their academic performance as assuredly as racist comments will affect performance in a workplace. Ownager already addressed this: "Just don't go near those guys." Problem solved!
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me getting interviewed on my position of eat the rich: "you know chimpanzees will band together and kill and eat any chimps that get too much territory" Interviewer, incredulous: "are you saying we should model our society on chimps?" Me, laughing: "oh no thats propoterous I'm just saying it's inevitable that human beings will find cooperation against tyranny" HoboMan has issued a correction as of 04:10 on Jun 24, 2018 |
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i like how rubin goes "90 percent of professors are liberal" and thinks that's because of suppression of conservative thought and not because the things he believes are poo poo.
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Love Rat posted:Actually the goal of the conservative "free speech" advocates is to chase the left out of discourse altogether so they can impose their own limits on speech. That's been their goal going back to Horowitz's campaign against "leftwing" professors back in the nineties and early aughts. Obesity discourses portray fat bodies as failures of individual ir/responsibility. But such discourses, this chapter shows, have come to transcend their epidemiological origins, informing social imaginaries of obesity and its associated moral opprobrium. Fatness as a social semiotic informs the ways in which human beings are judged and categorized. However, against such a constructed discourse, resistance is fertile. This paper explores the ‘fat girls hiking’ sub-culture, in which fat-identifi ed women stray not from the trail but from the social script. This is framed with Connell’s gender order theory and with reference to a Foucauldian model of self-monitoring in the face of social surveillance. In terms of methods and contribution, the paper uses evocative autoethnography through on-trail streams of consciousness and suggests a queering of mainstream discourses about obesity and about the questionable wisdom (or badass temerity?) of women who hike and camp alone.
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Who What Now posted:Ownager already addressed this: "Just don't go near those guys." Yeah, that's the goofy argument that people who have never been subjected to violent racism and homo/transphobia make. I've had friends nearly killed by racist extremists. I have friends who are terrified now because gaybashing is suddenly a thing in traditionally gay neighborhoods. A lot of white straight dudes have an exceptionally cavalier attitude when it comes to the feelings and lives of people not them. Love Rat has issued a correction as of 04:21 on Jun 24, 2018 |
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The Dennis System posted:Obesity discourses portray fat bodies as failures of individual ir/responsibility. But such discourses, this chapter shows, have come to transcend their epidemiological origins, informing social imaginaries of obesity and its associated moral opprobrium. Fatness as a social semiotic informs the ways in which human beings are judged and categorized. However, against such a constructed discourse, resistance is fertile. This paper explores the ‘fat girls hiking’ sub-culture, in which fat-identifi ed women stray not from the trail but from the social script. This is framed with Connell’s gender order theory and with reference to a Foucauldian model of self-monitoring in the face of social surveillance. In terms of methods and contribution, the paper uses evocative autoethnography through on-trail streams of consciousness and suggests a queering of mainstream discourses about obesity and about the questionable wisdom (or badass temerity?) of women who hike and camp alone. Yeah, academia produces some junk. What's your point? Do you have any argument besides some critical theory people are full of poo poo? I mean I ridicule this kind of poo poo all the time. Nope, I'm guessing not. The right must purify college so the 1-3 percent of professors who write drivel will be defeated! Personally, I'm fine with just dismissing academic jargon on its own grounds. I don't need to cry to the dean about it like some little Chet bitch. Love Rat has issued a correction as of 04:18 on Jun 24, 2018 |
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I've read all 13 pages of this and I've come to the conclusion that..*airhorn*
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Love Rat posted:Yeah, that's the goofy argument that people who have never been subjected to violent racism and homo/transphobia. I've had friends nearly killed by racist extremists. I have friends who are terrified now because gaybashing is suddenly a thing in traditionally gay neighborhoods. A lot of white straight dudes have an exceptionally cavalier attitude when it comes to the feelings and lives of people not them. Never feeling unsafe in that way is a privilege, but people will do anything to not admit that.
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Love Rat posted:Yeah, that's the goofy argument that people who have never been subjected to violent racism and homo/transphobia make. I've had friends nearly killed by racist extremists. I have friends who are terrified now because gaybashing is suddenly a thing in traditionally gay neighborhoods. A lot of white straight dudes have an exceptionally cavalier attitude when it comes to the feelings and lives of people not them. Which traditionally gay neighborhoods? I lived in the gayest part of super-gay Columbus, Ohio for three years. I've not seen or heard of one gay bash.
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The Human Crouton posted:Which traditionally gay neighborhoods? I lived in the gayest part of super-gay Columbus, Ohio for three years. I've not seen or heard of one gay bash. Capitol Hill in Seattle. Though the attack I refer to happened in Ballard in Seattle, there has been a general uptick of attacks on gays in Capitol Hill and all of Seattle since 2016. I actually witnessed some dude suckerpunch a gay man on the bus so hard you could hear cracking. And of course the bus driver did nothing, didn't even call it in. Edit: the attack in Ballard I referred to had a somewhat happy ending. There is also some stats on the increase in hate crimes. https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/seattle-man-honored-for-intervening-after-two-gay-men-attacked-in-ballard/ Love Rat has issued a correction as of 04:43 on Jun 24, 2018 |
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Who What Now posted:Never feeling unsafe in that way is a privilege, but people will do anything to not admit that. you know, i've read several times that you are personally a screeching racist retard, so i'm really not convinced we should be trusting your viewpoint on anything
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Commie NedFlanders posted:I agree with you, but the problem is that today people don’t bother learning how to think or engage in real thought about things. yeah this seems true in a folksy kind of way, which is why a lot of old people believe this. there is an idea that people used to talk about their problems around the kitchen table, Norman Rockwell style, and there was none of this ugly disagreement. of course this is false. people didn't get along better and tolerate each other more in the past. in fact, the opposite is true. society is full of more educated people behaving civilly than ever before. I think what has indeed changed is technology and speed of communication. most people with internet access have already seen these political debates played out time and time again. people aren't very patient with stupid and outmoded viewpoints anymore. no, I have not read this guys entire body of work. we all saw the charts. we've all seen this same dumb viewpoint in one form or another. the issue is not that we are beginning to coddle liberals by deplatforming conservative drivel, but that we have been coddling conservatives for years by allowing them a seat at the adults table. I suppose this may be a disagreement in perception. I do not see these trends as showing weakness but rather intolerance for laziness and stupidity.
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Docahedron posted:Ned I watched the whole vid do I get anything?! The Human Crouton posted:I watched it in full last week. Give me abs in my picture please. These are the only two people who claimed to have viewed the entire video. So, now to prove it, whichever of you answers this question correctly wins and I will draw whatever you like: Precisely which one of the protesters in the audience was the worst, most insufferable, and awful, and why?
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Commie NedFlanders posted:These are the only two people who claimed to have viewed the entire video. I don't think everyone need watch this video to discuss the general proposition of the effect of conservative 'debate' on public political sentiment what I mean is that is doesn't matter where the conservative discourse is taking place or who is doing the speaking. its all garbage, it's been long proven to be garbage, and the intellectually literate are making an effort to move on. Son of Man has issued a correction as of 04:55 on Jun 24, 2018 |
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Commie NedFlanders posted:These are the only two people who claimed to have viewed the entire video. Are we counting people who asked stupid questions with their hands on their hips as protesters? Or only people that yelled poo poo? Either way, I'm voting for the "Black Lives Matter" couple because they did it forever, had really dead eyes, had to memorize only three words, and their protest had nothing to do with the subject or speaker. Coin person gets second place because at least that person didn't stand up and annoy her neighbors as much. The Human Crouton has issued a correction as of 05:02 on Jun 24, 2018 |
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I just reread the op and realized this thread was a joke. is this what my grandson calls 'getting owned?'
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people on the dark web: pedos human traffickers drug traffickers Nazis the elite conservative intelligentsia Son of Man has issued a correction as of 05:02 on Jun 24, 2018 |
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The Human Crouton posted:Are we counting people who asked stupid questions with their hands on their hips as protesters? Or only people that yelled poo poo? Yeah it’s really cool how much positive discourse “black lives matter” brings up. Like who gets to debate that side, and what criteria do they use to justify human existance?
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