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Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
IIRC America wasn't even in the driver's seat for the Iran coup. That was the British because of their corporate oil interests and the US went along with it because the Dulles brothers were shits and nobody else really knew what the gently caress was going on in Iran or cared except that by God someone told us there were Commies to fight (there weren't).

Vincent Van Goatse fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Jun 25, 2018

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That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


goomsnarr posted:

I was born in 1970 in the UK.

The media kept telling me that the USA was the place to be; it was freedom, it was democracy. It was the qunitissential aspiration for all.

It was all bollocks of course.

However, it would be pretty awesome if we could get that dream back.

Please get well ASAP.

I don't see that happening. It's gonna get pretty hateful and I bet the next 2-4 years are gonna be absolutely insane.

LtCol J. Krusinski
May 7, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
Are there any national level politicians that are outright 100% for immigration? As in someone that believes our country is enriched and vitalized by immigrants.

I’ve not heard of any, but when I go to search for politicians and immigration all you get is either Anti Immigration, or We Also Want Strong Borders but no Wall gently caress trump.

I haven’t heard of any national level politician asking for the tired huddled and poor. And that’s a shame because we are made better as a whole by migrants.

Hopefully I’ve just been doing a lovely job looking and one of you more politically savvy types can point me in the right direction.

Johnny Five-Jaces
Jan 21, 2009


Solaris 2.0 posted:

tons of diversity.
Austin

lmao

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 7 days!

FrozenVent posted:

Separate families or not separate families isn’t worth debating.

The Eisenhower administration would never separate families or ignore due process for migrants.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

LtCol J. Krusinski posted:

Are there any national level politicians that are outright 100% for immigration? As in someone that believes our country is enriched and vitalized by immigrants.

I’ve not heard of any, but when I go to search for politicians and immigration all you get is either Anti Immigration, or We Also Want Strong Borders but no Wall gently caress trump.

I haven’t heard of any national level politician asking for the tired huddled and poor. And that’s a shame because we are made better as a whole by migrants.

Hopefully I’ve just been doing a lovely job looking and one of you more politically savvy types can point me in the right direction.

I was going to say Luis Gutierrez but he's retiring this year.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

For the heroes file: Sculptor arrested after leaving 800lb heroin spoon at Purdue Pharma headquarters

http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-news-stamford-opioids-spoon-sculpture-0623-story.html

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

shame on an IGA posted:

For the heroes file: Sculptor arrested after leaving 800lb heroin spoon at Purdue Pharma headquarters

http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-news-stamford-opioids-spoon-sculpture-0623-story.html

Cool dude.

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

Milo and POTUS posted:

Like all presidents he had his faults but for the most part I like Ike and he's probably the last republican president I'll admit to respecting.

Probably because he was the last pre-Southern Strategy Republican president. Every one after him was riding the racism wave.

Here's another fun presidential fact: it's been nearly 30 years since a non-incumbent Republican president has won the popular vote.

Brute Squad
Dec 20, 2006

Laughter is the sun that drives winter from the human race

shame on an IGA posted:

For the heroes file: Sculptor arrested after leaving 800lb heroin spoon at Purdue Pharma headquarters

http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-news-stamford-opioids-spoon-sculpture-0623-story.html

Should've used some 2 part epoxy and hammershot pins too.

McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?

Fister Roboto posted:

Probably because he was the last pre-Southern Strategy Republican president. Every one after him was riding the racism wave.

Here's another fun presidential fact: it's been nearly 30 years since a non-incumbent Republican president has won the popular vote.

Yeah, but the Democrats should have known going in that no Clinton has ever won a majority of the popular vote.

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat

McNally posted:

Yeah, but the Democrats should have known going in that no Clinton has ever won a majority of the popular vote.

Wha~?

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016

50% +1

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005


He's not wrong.

Sacrist65
Mar 24, 2007
Frunnkiss

I think this is in reference to Bill winning less than 50% but still winning because Ross Perot had two someone successful third party runs

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

Bill Clinton won with 43.01% of the popular vote in 1992 (Ross Perot got 18.9%) and 49.23% (Ross Perot got 8.4%) in 1996. Pluralities, not majorities! :eng101:

Bill did win 50% a lot in his governor races and Hillary won the Senate with 55% in 2000 and 67% in 2006.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

LtCol J. Krusinski posted:

Are there any national level politicians that are outright 100% for immigration? As in someone that believes our country is enriched and vitalized by immigrants.

I’ve not heard of any, but when I go to search for politicians and immigration all you get is either Anti Immigration, or We Also Want Strong Borders but no Wall gently caress trump.

I haven’t heard of any national level politician asking for the tired huddled and poor. And that’s a shame because we are made better as a whole by migrants.

Hopefully I’ve just been doing a lovely job looking and one of you more politically savvy types can point me in the right direction.

Here's the intro to the 2016 Democratic party plank on immigration:

quote:

The United States was founded as, and continues to be, a country of immigrants from throughout the world. It is no coincidence that the Statue of Liberty is one of our most profound national symbols. And that is why Democrats believe immigration is not just a problem to be solved, it is a defining aspect of the American character and our shared history.

Andrew Napolitano doesn't quite count as a national politician, but he's an interesting curve ball (There's lots of other things to dislike him over) and an unabashed advocate for unrestricted immigration.

Sacrist65
Mar 24, 2007
Frunnkiss
Fun fact about Ross Perot's reform party, he got 18% of the vote in the 92 election, largely from dissatisfied republicans.

In 2000, the Republican party, realizing that they would never see the white house again if the reform party continued to split the vote, had none other than Donald J Trump talk about running for president for the reform party against Pat Buchanan.

Back then, people thought Trump was a joke, which made the reform party look like a joke, and the reform party never again broke low single digits.

Bolow
Feb 27, 2007

In case you were wondering how John McAfee is doing

https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1010682321106821125

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
John McAfee is the best worst person alive right now.

Dance Officer
May 4, 2017

It would be awesome if we could dance!

RFC2324 posted:

didn't the cakeshops right to refuse service to the gay couple just get upheld by the SCOTUS?

They gave them a get out of jail free card, they didn't cancel anti-discrimination law as unconstitutional. They made up a claim of the north Carolina anti-discrimination board being hostile to religion or something and said that because of that they're dismissing the claim.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
The way we're heading it'll be discrimination on sexual preference, race, etc will be allowed but if you so much as dare kick those nazis out then that's a step too far.

Caufman
May 7, 2007
You cannot be denied service for loving this country too much.

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

Milo and POTUS posted:

The way we're heading it'll be discrimination on sexual preference, race, etc will be allowed but if you so much as dare kick those nazis out then that's a step too far.

So basically "A Handmaid's Tale" stuff

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
IIRC, that place was really small so they should have booted them for taking up too much space

redneck nazgul
Apr 25, 2013

Milo and POTUS posted:

The way we're heading it'll be discrimination on sexual preference, race, etc will be allowed but if you so much as dare kick those nazis out then that's a step too far.

We're pretty much one retirement/death that's not Alito/Gorsuch/Roberts away from that.

I leave out Thomas because he's a goddamn space alien in terms of how he approaches things.

Radical 90s Wizard
Aug 5, 2008

~SS-18 burning bright,
Bathe me in your cleansing light~
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/06/feeding-gods-hundreds-skulls-reveal-massive-scale-human-sacrifice-aztec-capital

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOz7a2oEgrQ

Straight stealing this from gbs, but holy poo poo Aztecs were absolutely fuckin crazy about skulls. Archaeologists have unearthed a goddamn SKULL DISPLAY RACK, "35 meters long and 12 to 14 meters wide, slightly larger than a basketball court, and likely 4 to 5 meters high." and flanked by a couple of big ol towers made of SKULLS & MORTAR :black101:

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
(fringe?) Elements of the RWM are going to go nanners on this as justification, mark my words.

kupachek
Aug 5, 2015

This man’s brain is trembling in the balance between reason and insanity, and as he stalks on with clenched fist and sword in hand, as though he still saw those murderous Russians gunners.

Radical 90s Wizard posted:

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/06/feeding-gods-hundreds-skulls-reveal-massive-scale-human-sacrifice-aztec-capital

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOz7a2oEgrQ

Straight stealing this from gbs, but holy poo poo Aztecs were absolutely fuckin crazy about skulls. Archaeologists have unearthed a goddamn SKULL DISPLAY RACK, "35 meters long and 12 to 14 meters wide, slightly larger than a basketball court, and likely 4 to 5 meters high." and flanked by a couple of big ol towers made of SKULLS & MORTAR :black101:

I believe they discovered it several years ago, but I'm not trawling through my bookmark archive to confirm that. Still loving cool regardless.

BadOptics
Sep 11, 2012

Radical 90s Wizard posted:

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/06/feeding-gods-hundreds-skulls-reveal-massive-scale-human-sacrifice-aztec-capital

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOz7a2oEgrQ

Straight stealing this from gbs, but holy poo poo Aztecs were absolutely fuckin crazy about skulls. Archaeologists have unearthed a goddamn SKULL DISPLAY RACK, "35 meters long and 12 to 14 meters wide, slightly larger than a basketball court, and likely 4 to 5 meters high." and flanked by a couple of big ol towers made of SKULLS & MORTAR :black101:

Look at this guy who's never heard of the Paris Catacombs. Humans in general are extremely into skulls.

See also: Wahammer/40K/nazis/Skeletor.

Edit. The story is still cool though.

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016
If history books still exist in the future I imagine people are going to ask how we tell for this twice.

E: before falling for it again because time is a flat circle etc etc

kupachek
Aug 5, 2015

This man’s brain is trembling in the balance between reason and insanity, and as he stalks on with clenched fist and sword in hand, as though he still saw those murderous Russians gunners.

boop the snoot posted:

If history books still exist in the future I imagine people are going to ask how we tell for this twice.

E: before falling for it again because time is a flat circle etc etc

Just like the earth!

checkmate whoeversomethingorother

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
This is one of those reminders that there are a ton of irons in the fire that could potentially explode in importance come November, when they don't seem all that impactful now.

https://twitter.com/pbump/status/1011213995108429824?s=19

https://twitter.com/AmichaiStein1/status/1011207108136767488?s=19

Waroduce
Aug 5, 2008
Bolton suddenly has a woody.....Iran looks ripe for destabilization

aphid_licker
Jan 7, 2009


Bolow posted:

In case you were wondering how John McAfee is doing

https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1010682321106821125

The question doesn't seem to be as much about the "how" and more the "what" and the answer is cocaine. He appears to be doing cocaine.

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING
Just a little bit of economic anxiety, nothing to see here.

https://twitter.com/KenidraRWoods_/status/1011143243181027330?s=19

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

Just a little bit of economic anxiety, nothing to see here.

I hope the NYT sends someone out to do a profile on her and to try to Understand Her Truth.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

Just a little bit of economic anxiety, nothing to see here.

https://twitter.com/KenidraRWoods_/status/1011143243181027330?s=19

Old, White People are the worst.

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

I don’t think anyone it would be surprised that it’s middle class white women acting as the shock troops for the upcoming race war.

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Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!
The "Can I speak to your manager" division

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