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loving cops investigating crimes and accidents to the best of their ability smh
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Jun 22, 2018 15:29
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Mercrom posted:loving cops investigating crimes and accidents to the best of their ability smh I think the objection is how selective this case is when it wouldn't be done for a normal peddeath
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Jun 22, 2018 15:30
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the cyberpunk dystopia part is that hulu has all that stuff, not that the police followed a lead. she said she was using her phone to file an incident report or whatever so figuring out what her phone was doing is well within the scope of the investigation
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Jun 22, 2018 15:33
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Bert Roberge posted:We're a few and people thought Gattaca was too far-fetched, hah
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Jun 22, 2018 15:37
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Mercrom posted:loving cops investigating crimes and accidents to the best of their ability smh the criminal is Uber but the cops are doing everything they can to clear them. when the crash first happened, the police chief held a press conference saying that based on the data and logs and videos from the car, the collision was likely unavoidable. but now that they've got ammo for blaming it on the safety driver, they're now saying that it was definitely avoidable and was entirely the fault of the safety driver and the pedestrian. which seems to go directly against Arizona self-driving car rules that place liability on the corporation and don't forget when they drug-tested the victim and announced the results to the media. or when they leaked the safety driver's criminal record (which was under a different name) to the media. both extremely normal practices that are part of any car crash investigation also, body camera footage from the night if the accident shows officers chatting with Uber representatives about how they knew it was going to be a big media incident, that they would have to be careful in how they handled it, and that they were going to be "working together". and the district attorney's office has handed the case off to another country, citing a conflict of interest because the local DA office had previously participated in an Uber ad campaign
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Jun 22, 2018 15:48
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sounds sketchy but i dont buy your theory. if uber could have gotten away with saying it was unavoidable they would. admitting otherwise reflects badly on their tech
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Jun 22, 2018 16:05
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got any sevens posted:and people thought Gattaca was too far-fetched, hah We really aren't too far off from insurance rates based off of DNA results.
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Jun 22, 2018 16:05
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Mercrom posted:sounds sketchy but i dont buy your theory. if uber could have gotten away with saying it was unavoidable they would. admitting otherwise reflects badly on their tech Saying it was unavoidable reflects worse on the tech than placing all the blame on a negligent individual
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Jun 22, 2018 16:21
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Mercrom posted:sounds sketchy but i dont buy your theory. if uber could have gotten away with saying it was unavoidable they would. admitting otherwise reflects badly on their tech it's not uber who said it was unavoidable. it was the police department, around the same time that they released that shoddy low-quality video where you couldn't see the pedestrian until right before impact there's a limit to how much lying Uber can actually do. it's already come out that their car detected the pedestrian over six seconds before the collision, and failed to respond because Uber engineers had disabled the "emergency braking" maneuver it tried to use (because it looked bad to see the car constantly braking because of false positives) rather than covering it up, they're just trying to guide the media cycle into distractions and avoid legal liability, with the police department's help. though now that they have something that makes the safety driver look bad, I'm sure they wouldn't mind the police using it to set a legal precedent that it's the driver's fault rather than Uber's fault
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Jun 22, 2018 16:28
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a license to drive is basically a license to kill, esp homeless people. had the driver been driving herself, she would face virtually 0 repercussions, but bc the uber AI was driving, she's gonna get the book thrown at her lmao
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Jun 22, 2018 16:49
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Yeah it's good that they're investigating it but it's bad because it's an isolated event and they're going to throw the driver away for 400 years and claim the tech was fine until it racks up an unmistakable body count
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Jun 22, 2018 19:56
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Check out this take: Uber's greatest crime is setting back the adoption of auto cars which will cause thousands of people to be killed by human drivers
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Jun 22, 2018 20:04
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Check out this take: Uber's greatest crime is setting back the adoption of auto cars which will cause thousands of people to be killed by human drivers Wow this is wrong in like four different ways, impressive even for you.
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Jun 22, 2018 20:08
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I dunno, if they can prove that the driver was watching The Voice on her phone at the same time as the crash that at least makes her partially liable. That Hulu keep such detailed records is creepy, and Uber's tech is clearly dangerous, but checking what the driver was doing at the time of the crash is pretty straightforward police work.
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Jun 22, 2018 20:18
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glad she is dead posted:I dunno, if they can prove that the driver was watching The Voice on her phone at the same time as the crash that at least makes her partially liable. That Hulu keep such detailed records is creepy, and Uber's tech is clearly dangerous, but checking what the driver was doing at the time of the crash is pretty straightforward police work. i'm pretty sure the police don't subpoena YouTube and Netflix for every fatal car accident i don't understand all the people trying to handwave that as ordinary routine police work
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Jun 22, 2018 21:02
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Main Paineframe posted:i'm pretty sure the police don't subpoena YouTube and Netflix for every fatal car accident They do routinely request mobile phone records in death by dangerous driving cases (well, they do in the English and Welsh court system anyway) to see if they were making a call at the time of a crash. Possibly they did that, noticed she was making a large data transfer at the time of the crash, suspected she was streaming video and wanted to check. edit: after watching the interior video of the car it is pretty obvious that the driver is watching something to the lower right of the wheel. plowing through a homeless woman in an automated AI driven car while streaming a tacky TV talent show is still cyberpunk as gently caress though Necrothatcher has issued a correction as of 22:38 on Jun 22, 2018 |
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Jun 22, 2018 22:12
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lol if you think american cops would give a poo poo about some driver plowing a homeless person
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Jun 22, 2018 22:17
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I'm 99% sure you could get away with beating a homeless guy to death on national tv
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Jun 23, 2018 00:23
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Peanut President posted:I'm 99% sure you could get away with beating a homeless guy to death on national tv https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bumfights
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Jun 23, 2018 01:23
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Jun 23, 2018 01:46
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glad she is dead posted:
her job required her to continuously monitor a computer screen with diagnostics while the car is driving and tag events for the programmers to review later
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Jun 24, 2018 01:23
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Shear Modulus posted:her job required her to continuously monitor a computer screen with diagnostics while the car is driving and tag events for the programmers to review later sure but her job description was like "dont touch the car" so
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Jun 24, 2018 01:37
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Jun 24, 2018 15:21
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This is great news! ....for Jeb!
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Jun 24, 2018 15:22
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x420ReDdIT_Br0nYx posted:Just in case people aren't aware, almost everything in that first chapter has been a reality since the 90s and has become the norm in warehouses around the world in the mid 2000s I used to work in a warehouse and it had this system. All it did was tell you the position of items on the shelves so you could find them more quickly. It would say E36825L, you'd have to answer OK, it would tell you 5, you'd grab 5 E36825Ls (in my case, refrigerated foodstuffs like 50 pound boxes of fruit juices or butter, etc). Then you'd say 5 to confirm. and it would tell you the next one. The guy who trained me told me that order to save time, it's best to have the voice talk as fast as possible. So I set my female robo-voice to talk as fast as possible, which also raised the pitch. It made the robot voice giving me orders all day while I broke my back a little funnier. But it honestly is the least of all worries regarding warehouse work. You know those "days till last accident" signs? I never saw ours go above 15 days.
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Jun 24, 2018 16:53
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Main Paineframe posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/PostEverything/status/1006983079112691712 fill potholes with cops, stop resisting the savings
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Jun 24, 2018 17:00
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Remote-controlled gaslighting
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Jun 25, 2018 01:09
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https://mobile.twitter.com/Gizmodo/status/1011007964625424384
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Jun 25, 2018 02:10
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Nothing fills me with existential dread quite like catching up on this thread and the doomsday economics thread. Tracer Tong was right.
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Jun 25, 2018 03:37
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something like this happened to me like four years ago, christ i shouldn't be surprised it's the norm now
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Jun 25, 2018 03:47
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Well, all that poo poo breaks so it could just be works as expected: https://twitter.com/internetofshit?lang=en
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Jun 25, 2018 03:48
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Jun 25, 2018 13:23
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https://twitter.com/JustinCaffier/status/1011334607797547008?s=19
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Jun 25, 2018 21:54
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literally came here to post this, it makes me so loving mad
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Jun 25, 2018 22:18
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that looks like a mural that a porno producer puts up on a stucco wall for a shoot.
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Jun 25, 2018 22:33
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-25/amazon-workers-facing-firing-can-appeal-to-a-jury-of-their-co-workersquote:Jane was working in Amazon's Seattle headquarters when she was asked to a meeting with her manager and a human resources representative. They gave her a document outlining concerns about her work performance and spelled out three choices. She could quit and receive severance pay, spend the next several weeks trying to keep her job by meeting certain performance goals, or square off with her manager in a videoconference version of the Thunderdome, pleading her case with a panel of co-workers while her boss argued against her. Jane, who asked that her real name not be used to discuss a personal matter, chose the last one. new season of Survivor sounds weird
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Jun 25, 2018 23:10
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Holy poo poo, that's some good corporate distopia.
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Jun 25, 2018 23:33
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union grievance without a union, wowee
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Jun 25, 2018 23:58
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Pidgin Englishman posted:Holy poo poo, that's some good corporate distopia. lol videoconference version of the Thunderdome
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Jun 26, 2018 00:00
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EugeneJ posted:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-25/amazon-workers-facing-firing-can-appeal-to-a-jury-of-their-co-workers lmao this is insane
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Jun 26, 2018 00:00
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