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The_Politics_Man
Aug 25, 2015

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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
china? I barely even knew her!

Al!
Apr 2, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 6 hours!
lol tibetans kept han chinese as slaves for decades

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

tibetans and uighurs have been exceptions to the one- and two-child policies for decades but that's actually a secret plot to lower their numbers

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

i'm taking the bait as a sacrificial lamb to get this thread back on track.

Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016
but this dude suuuucks, homeex

Fuligin
Oct 27, 2010

wait what the fuck??

R. Guyovich posted:

tibetans and uighurs have been exceptions to the one- and two-child policies for decades but that's actually a secret plot to lower their numbers

thanks m8

anyway as i was saying the chinese state has been aggressively colonizing tibet and the western regions and it seems, like, pretty obviously vile and imperialistic, like, kind of transparently so? am i missing the secret 4-dimensional red chess here??

Al!
Apr 2, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 6 hours!

Autism Sneaks posted:

but this dude suuuucks, homeex

i drew his av and also the han chinese are getting their businesses burned down in tibet

Fuligin
Oct 27, 2010

wait what the fuck??

Al! posted:

i drew his av and also the han chinese are getting their businesses burned down in tibet

lol wont someone think of the poor israeli han settlers?!?

Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016
yeah well that av sucks, I don't even know what it is, and a picture of Hank Venture wearing the moustache would make way more sense for them

Al!
Apr 2, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 6 hours!

Fuligin posted:

lol wont someone think of the poor israeli han settlers?!?

well ughar businesses are also being burned down in tibet but i figured thus thread wouldn't care about them

Infernot
Jul 17, 2015

"A short night wakes me from a dream that seemed so long."
Grimey Drawer

Fuligin posted:

thanks m8

anyway as i was saying the chinese state has been aggressively colonizing tibet and the western regions and it seems, like, pretty obviously vile and imperialistic, like, kind of transparently so? am i missing the secret 4-dimensional red chess here??



Need I say more, Western (imperialist core) leftist???

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Fuligin posted:

thanks m8

anyway as i was saying the chinese state has been aggressively colonizing tibet and the western regions and it seems, like, pretty obviously vile and imperialistic, like, kind of transparently so? am i missing the secret 4-dimensional red chess here??

they've also seized a bunch of islands in the South China Sea

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Autism Sneaks posted:

wow I'd be shocked that Al! and WL have managed to construe criticism of trying to speak authoritatively on [X] while establishing they've never read [X] as a declaration that you must "do homework" to be a good leftist human being and that this erroneous strawman is somehow an assault on their entire being, but they do this literally all the time lol

Al! just doesn't like when you say anything mean about anarchism

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Fuligin posted:

lol wont someone think of the poor israeli han settlers?!?

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

rudatron posted:

I don't claim you've misunderstood the comic, I claim you've misunderstood marxism. Your own opinions and beliefs are whatever you make them, but you don't have the right to misrepresent something that exists outside of you, in this case, marxism.

I'm being extremely reasonable here, and all I'm getting back is hostility. You're being really petty over something that doesn't matter.

:jerkbag:

"You're not Marxisting right" is a really dumb thing to get mad about, do you want allies or do you want to drive people off because you think they're not doing leftism in the right way?

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5Zb6EUO9DY

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
is this that hate china beat?

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Autism Sneaks posted:

yeah well that av sucks, I don't even know what it is, and a picture of Hank Venture wearing the moustache would make way more sense for them

its a komodo dragon. my brother in the animal kingdom.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjpxPZow_lI

Jizz Festival
Oct 30, 2012
Lipstick Apathy

WampaLord posted:

:jerkbag:

"You're not Marxisting right" is a really dumb thing to get mad about, do you want allies or do you want to drive people off because you think they're not doing leftism in the right way?

Why are you being so stupid about this? You clearly have no idea what marxism is (which is fine you don't havr to) but then you're getting pissy and defensive when ruda tries to explain things.

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy

WampaLord posted:

:jerkbag:

"You're not Marxisting right" is a really dumb thing to get mad about, do you want allies or do you want to drive people off because you think they're not doing leftism in the right way?
Maybe you don't recognize the difference, but it's there, and it's actually really important. It's not superficial.

Ego-death/stoner logic only appeals to a certain select groups with a certain aesthetic cliche, typically bohemian artisans, actual or merely self-styled. The reason for this, is that it's unsustainable when in contact with the real world, or in establishing positive values to direct an individual's life, or even societies' direction - it can only exist in opposition to a dominant, oppressive, but ultimately productive, hegemony.

The point of radical emancipation, is the dialectical synthesis of the productive capacity of present economic system, minus the exploitation and inherent contradictions. The option presented in the comic, of self-defeating/self-castrating/self-denying relativism, is simply not that attractive to the vast majority of people, most of whom actually have real concerns and needs, that cannot be wished away through rhetorical trickery.

In terms of 'memeing marxism', 'luxury gay space communism' is much more accurate to the overall spirit of marxist thought.

Al! posted:

well ughar businesses are also being burned down in tibet but i figured thus thread wouldn't care about them
probably by other han settlers though, han numbers in tibet have popped because the chinese state is pushing people there, in an effort to contain any future social unrest.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfnZaf4gikk

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy

R. Guyovich posted:

its a komodo dragon. my brother in the animal kingdom.
a venomous lizard that is the apex predator in its environment, but only because said environment was isolated from any other advanced animal life (i.e. cats or dogs) :thunk:

something something dying comedy subforum

crazy cloud
Nov 7, 2012

by Cyrano4747
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imagine being so cucked that you proclaim your specific belief system itself as being "the point of radical emancipation" lmao

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

WampaLord posted:

Okay, fine, I've "misunderstood" the comic, I love capitalism now, time to go earn me some profit because apparently I've been doing this whole thing wrong according to rudatron, who knows everything, including how I process Mario comics.

E: nm, too rude

this dude got Goethe Programmed over a Mario comic

Beowulfs_Ghost
Nov 6, 2009

Fuligin posted:

thanks m8

anyway as i was saying the chinese state has been aggressively colonizing tibet and the western regions and it seems, like, pretty obviously vile and imperialistic, like, kind of transparently so? am i missing the secret 4-dimensional red chess here??

You aren't missing anything.

They are also building railroads in Africa. Taking out 99 year leases on prime beach front property in SE Asia. Throwing up military bases on every atoll they can reach to claim the surrounding waters.

Pretty much classical imperialism.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Also

Al! posted:

anprims... industrious

lmao

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Pener Kropoopkin posted:

this dude got Goethe Programmed over a Mario comic

lol

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy

crazy cloud posted:

imagine being so cucked that you proclaim your specific belief system itself as being "the point of radical emancipation" lmao
You're right, 'radical emancipation' is far too broad, considering the breadth of what is considered radical. I should have limited it to 'marxist' or 'socialist'.

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

rudatron posted:

a venomous lizard that is the apex predator in its environment, but only because said environment was isolated from any other advanced animal life (i.e. cats or dogs) :thunk:

something something dying comedy subforum

i just like and respect them after getting stared down by one at the zoo.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
https://twitter.com/getfiscal/status/983545616692334593?s=19

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


i was in a place with giant monitor lizards and i had no clue they were there and i was just walking down the road and nearly stepped on one and freaked the gently caress out. mostly they just eat trash tho.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

this dude got Goethe Programmed over a Mario comic

I don't know what that means, but regardless I'll drop this stupid derail because ruda and I are never going to agree and this is the China thread and feel free to keep mocking me for not getting a Mario comic enough.

I'm glad at least one goon enjoyed the comic without having to "Well actually" about it though

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

I'm Vietnamese Calvin pissing on China irl btw

D.Ork Bimboolean
Aug 26, 2016

rudatron posted:


In terms of 'memeing marxism', 'luxury gay space communism' is much more accurate to the overall spirit of marxist thought.


To be far I'm grateful for Wampa sharing it. I hadn't seen it before and I sincerely enjoy over-analyzing and circle jerking about comics like that. Philosophy/political comics that are trying to tell and teach in story and character at the same time.

I wish we had a thread to dump-post all that kind of poo poo here in C-SPAM. There are some great works on parade in BSS, but I doubt they want our branch of aggressive ship-posting in that subforum.

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
just post them if you have them.

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
all cspam thread are interchangeable.

Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016

rudatron posted:

all cspam thread are interchangeable.

this is true ego-death

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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

i was in a place with giant monitor lizards and i had no clue they were there and i was just walking down the road and nearly stepped on one and freaked the gently caress out. mostly they just eat trash tho.
the monitor lizard eats from the trash all the time

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