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Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Kesper North posted:

I'm a fan. John Barnes did a fair bit of interesting stuff with memetic plagues too, in Kaleidoscope Century and others.

That is the most soul-searingly difficult book to read I've ever encountered.

I'm not saying it's *bad*, or that you shouldn't read it. But parts of it are like Srebrenica-massacre fanfiction.

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Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY

Phanatic posted:

That is the most soul-searingly difficult book to read I've ever encountered.

I'm not saying it's *bad*, or that you shouldn't read it. But parts of it are like Srebrenica-massacre fanfiction.

Yeah, it's like the opposite of anything John Ringo writes. Very powerful in its exploration of dehumanization. It's a horrific book, as in it contains horror. It is also worth it if you can stand it, I think.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

Kesper North posted:

The same things keeping us from laser rifles are keeping us from gauss rifles at this point.


I think that before we achieve the ability to put a functional energy weapon in the hands of infantry, we will be either fighting with sticks and stones or warfare will have changed so dramatically as to be unimaginable from where we are now. I could see us getting something like, say, autonomous hunter-killer drones the size of a bullet that cost less than the equivalent amount of 5.56 expended per target killed.

Or we'll have really weaponized memes. Prions transported on the back of transmissible viruses that squirm into your grey matter and chow down on your critical thinking abilities. Maybe even inserting their own code once they grow sophisticated enough.

The future is always weirder than we expect.

I think the Russians did experiment with making harmless bacteria that would be vectors for smallpox transmission

weaponized prions, jesus, that's some mad scientist trying to bring down the human population to healthier levels poo poo

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013
Couple weeks ago researchers announced they've created prions in a lab environment so yeah, you just know the Russians will try to weaponize them.
https://gizmodo.com/synthetic-brain-destroying-human-prions-created-in-the-1826602177

Captain Log
Oct 2, 2006

Now I am become Borb,
the Destroyer of Seeb

chitoryu12 posted:

I mean, you may have a skewed perspective on the timeline.

That's going in my "Good Jokes" folder. :)

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

C.M. Kruger posted:

Couple weeks ago researchers announced they've created prions in a lab environment so yeah, you just know the Russians will try to weaponize them.
https://gizmodo.com/synthetic-brain-destroying-human-prions-created-in-the-1826602177

Patient Zero's already been released. :chaostrump:

aphid_licker
Jan 7, 2009


BIG HEADLINE posted:

Patient Zero's already been released. :chaostrump:

Transmission requires eating his brain so unless the Republican party gets real weird about exactly how they handle succession we should be fine

Valtonen
May 13, 2014

Tanks still suck but you don't gotta hand it to the Axis either.

aphid_licker posted:

Transmission requires eating his brain so unless the Republican party gets real weird about exactly how they handle succession we should be fine

I mean republicans already identify as fringe christian so... last supper ”this is my prions”

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe
Good job there SC NG.

https://twitter.com/MSchroeder77/status/1011792872209895425
https://twitter.com/MSchroeder77/status/1011794633519706112

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Valtonen posted:

I mean republicans already identify as fringe christian so... last supper ”this is my prions”

:stonk:

Cat Hatter
Oct 24, 2006

Hatters gonna hat.

OK, I first read this as "Holy Smokes!! Police officers in South Carolina fired an M249 machine gun, 2 M16 rifles, and an M203 grenade launcher in(to) the car of a driver pulled over for littering" and thought this was some depressing modern version of Alice's Restaurant about police brutality.

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


https://twitter.com/JosephHDempsey/status/1011888830595649536

Ice Fist
Jun 20, 2012

^^ Please send feedback to beefstache911@hotmail.com, this is not a joke that 'stache is the real deal. Serious assessments only. ^^

Cat Hatter posted:

OK, I first read this as "Holy Smokes!! Police officers in South Carolina fired an M249 machine gun, 2 M16 rifles, and an M203 grenade launcher in(to) the car of a driver pulled over for littering" and thought this was some depressing modern version of Alice's Restaurant about police brutality.

I read this exactly the same way initially. I didn't realize my mistake until I read the attachment and found it didn't make sense.

Plinkey
Aug 4, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

oh scheiße!

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

Cat Hatter posted:

OK, I first read this as "Holy Smokes!! Police officers in South Carolina fired an M249 machine gun, 2 M16 rifles, and an M203 grenade launcher in(to) the car of a driver pulled over for littering" and thought this was some depressing modern version of Alice's Restaurant about police brutality.

Same, actually

New Concept Hole
Oct 10, 2012

東方動的

"The 1920s and 2020s are a long way apart, but they do have one thing in common..."

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Ice Fist posted:

I read this exactly the same way initially. I didn't realize my mistake until I read the attachment and found it didn't make sense.

It's pretty telling that the idea of American cops machine gunning someone for a non-violent crime is taken at such face value that nobody questions it until they see details later in the article that contradict it.

Ice Fist
Jun 20, 2012

^^ Please send feedback to beefstache911@hotmail.com, this is not a joke that 'stache is the real deal. Serious assessments only. ^^

chitoryu12 posted:

It's pretty telling that the idea of American cops machine gunning someone for a non-violent crime is taken at such face value that nobody questions it until they see details later in the article that contradict it.

I mean, yes and no? A guy getting a grenade in the face and lit up by automatic fire would still be extraordinary even by the current expectations.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Ice Fist posted:

I mean, yes and no? A guy getting a grenade in the face and lit up by automatic fire would still be extraordinary even by the current expectations.

The officers would be placed on paid leave while Internal Affairs investigated. Upon discovering that the driver had a handgun in his glove compartment and a single joint in his pocket, the officers would be exonerated and returned to duty.

Dr. Despair
Nov 4, 2009


39 perfect posts with each roll.

Ice Fist posted:

I mean, yes and no? A guy getting a grenade in the face and lit up by automatic fire would still be extraordinary even by the current expectations.

It'd only be extraordinary if they don't drop the grenades from a helicopter and burn down 65 houses in the process



Guess how many people with the city got charged as a result of that zero, don't let cops have explosives kids

Mortabis
Jul 8, 2010

I am stupid

chitoryu12 posted:

It's pretty telling that the idea of American cops machine gunning someone for a non-violent crime is taken at such face value that nobody questions it until they see details later in the article that contradict it.

Really, if you read it that way and weren't at least surprised, then it says more about you than the cops.

"What a world we live in, that people can believe the cops would do something outrageous and really weird that they never actually do" is more a statement about human credulousness than police brutality.

Mortabis fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Jun 27, 2018

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Mortabis posted:

Really, if you read it that way and weren't at least surprised, then it says more about you than the cops.

"What a world we live in, that people can believe the cops would do something outrageous and really weird that they never actually do" is more a statement about human credulousness than police brutality.

I mean American cops have literally bombed neighborhoods and shot up trucks that kinda looked like a suspect's vehicle. Firing a machine gun at a car that committed a non-violent crime and then drove away would be pretty par for the course.

Smiling Jack
Dec 2, 2001

I sucked a dick for bus fare and then I walked home.

a for fucks sake shut up and take it to one of the other six thousand threads that have derails about it

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant
About how many people would have to have hosed up to leave that many doors unlocked/unsecured?

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

No translation needed.

Vahakyla
May 3, 2013
One Specialist.

Neophyte
Apr 23, 2006

perennially
Taco Defender


What's the beehive-looking thing in the front? CIWS/RAM missiles?

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Neophyte posted:



What's the beehive-looking thing in the front? CIWS/RAM missiles?

SeaRAM.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIM-116_Rolling_Airframe_Missile

Neophyte
Apr 23, 2006

perennially
Taco Defender

For some reason I didn't see the bottom pic that made it obvious. Thanks!

Wonder how much the heat and flames will cost to repair with modern ship systems. Subtle damage might be easy to miss at a glance, so do you dismount and recheck everything that possibly got hot, or just the more complicated easily broken stuff, or shrug and say "eh, it's probably fine" and fix it if that breaks later?

M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES

Exciting Lemon

Kesper North posted:

Or we'll have really weaponized memes. Prions transported on the back of transmissible viruses that squirm into your grey matter and chow down on your critical thinking abilities. Maybe even inserting their own code once they grow sophisticated enough.

The future is always weirder than we expect.

Check out the anti-memetics division story series on the SCP website.

Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY

M_Gargantua posted:

Check out the anti-memetics division story series on the SCP website.

I had no idea SCP was still around. Thanks.

Captain von Trapp
Jan 23, 2006

I don't like it, and I'm sorry I ever had anything to do with it.

M_Gargantua posted:

Check out the anti-memetics division story series on the SCP website.

Thought I'd be clever and link this, but beaten. Seriously, that story arc is professional quality stuff. SCP in general is surprisingly good considering it's basically collaborative fanfiction.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Captain von Trapp posted:

Thought I'd be clever and link this, but beaten. Seriously, that story arc is professional quality stuff. SCP in general is surprisingly good considering it's basically collaborative fanfiction.

One of the authors of the anti-memetics arc is qntm, from qntm.org, the home of one of my favourite pieces of serialised fiction, Fine Structure.

Captain Log
Oct 2, 2006

Now I am become Borb,
the Destroyer of Seeb

Ice Fist posted:

I read this exactly the same way initially. I didn't realize my mistake until I read the attachment and found it didn't make sense.

Me too!

I was getting ready to make some sort of edge lord joke about him surviving that due to whiteness, but I got nothing here.

On second thought, if you fired all that at a car you probably work for or against ISIS.

wargames
Mar 16, 2008

official yospos cat censor

what did they expect to happen, they tried to uselessly fire off 30% of germany's naval budget with that one missle.

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe

Memento posted:

One of the authors of the anti-memetics arc is qntm, from qntm.org, the home of one of my favourite pieces of serialised fiction, Fine Structure.

Well, I know what I'm doing today.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Phy posted:

Well, I know what I'm doing today.

Ya, I hadn’t read the SCP antimemetics thing either.

RIP my afternoon.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

Random question: why did the Russians develop specialized coastal anti-ship artillery and missiles? I was browsing this new 1/72 model kit manufacturer, and found these.

TheFluff
Dec 13, 2006

FRIENDS, LISTEN TO ME
I AM A SEAGULL
OF WEALTH AND TASTE


spot the odd one out

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Mortabis
Jul 8, 2010

I am stupid
I see one draken, two viggens, and six gripens.

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