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How are u posted:We deserve everything coming to us. Maybe rich white people
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Jun 27, 2018 18:43
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Banana Man posted:Maybe rich white people And poor white people who voted for Trump.
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Jun 27, 2018 19:08
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The UK currently has wild fires going on. https://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-44634023 Granted its nothing like you get in the states but it's pretty big news here & last time I remember it happening was in the 70's.
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Jun 27, 2018 19:17
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VideoGameVet posted:And poor white people who voted for Trump. why should people be blamed for choosing the lesser evil? it's not like they voted for a slaveowner trump cratering the economy will do more to stop emissions than pretty much anything on the table, including pretending like the Paris accords do anything (the dem strategy on climate change)
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Jun 27, 2018 21:07
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90s Rememberer posted:why should people be blamed for choosing the lesser evil? it's not like they voted for a slaveowner Wow. Nice f-ing spin. Trump is literally pouring gasoline (ok, coal) on the climate change fire(s).
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Jun 27, 2018 21:40
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VideoGameVet posted:Wow. Nice f-ing spin. To be fair, nations exceeding Paris include Warsaw states that functionally turned off their economies in the 90s 
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Jun 27, 2018 23:11
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90s Rememberer posted:why should people be blamed for choosing the lesser evil? it's not like they voted for a slaveowner A bad poster that has no understanding of what the EPA is or does
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Jun 28, 2018 00:38
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Crosspost from doomsday economics: https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1012280981359915013 The article posted:“You know, 20 years ago I never thought I would end up seeing the rise because everything, all the projections at that time, really didn’t ramp up until well into the 21st century. But then I started going out to Cape Sable.” Cape Sable is the southernmost part of the mainland; it reaches into the Florida Bay like a swollen hook. “Out there the beaches were disappearing, mangroves were moving in, tiny channels turned into huge rivers in a matter of years. Even the roseate spoonbills started abandoning their nesting grounds. I had never, in my life of studying the geology of the coast of Florida, seen anything like it. That is when I knew in my gut that the early predictions were wrong and that sea level rise was unfolding a lot faster than any of us ever imagined.” Expect to hear a whole lot of this rolling into the mid-century.
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Jun 28, 2018 16:41
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Trainee PornStar posted:The UK currently has wild fires going on. Also the rest of the UK is melting and Scotland is the hottest it's been since like 120 years ago. Send help plus ice.
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Jun 28, 2018 17:17
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90s Rememberer posted:why should people be blamed for choosing the lesser evil? it's not like they voted for a slaveowner Yeah you know when you think about it all those kids in the detention centers won’t be able to produce carbon at a first world rate so that is a pretty big decrease
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Jun 28, 2018 17:27
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https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/natural-gas-emissions-podcast-energy-gang https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/06/study-us-oil-and-gas-methane-emissions-have-been-dramatically-underestimated/ Good news in that we are getting a better idea of emissions, bad news in that industry should have been catching this, so I am donning another layer of tinfoil hat.
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Jun 29, 2018 04:14
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vorebane posted:https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/natural-gas-emissions-podcast-energy-gang Earlier studies showed that the methane leaks from fracking put the climate effect of natural gas generation plants on a par with coal for climate effect.
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Jun 29, 2018 21:52
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Maybe this is the thread I heard about this then. Overall I would like things to be less doomed.
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Jun 30, 2018 02:11
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Pruitt is out, so that's nice, at least until whatever new lunatic is appointed.
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Jul 5, 2018 23:49
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You'd think it wouldn't be hard to find someone to do everything he was doing, policy-wise, without being hilariously cartoonishly corrupt. And yet...
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Jul 6, 2018 00:01
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pwnyXpress posted:Pruitt is out, so that's nice, at least until whatever new lunatic is appointed. The institutional damage is irreversible and his replacement can just keep on doing the same thing without all the weirdo spending to put a mark on his head.
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Jul 6, 2018 00:07
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Polygynous posted:You'd think it wouldn't be hard to find someone to do everything he was doing, policy-wise, without being hilariously cartoonishly corrupt. And yet... It's his turn.
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Jul 6, 2018 01:19
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Is the world running out of sand? The truth behind stolen beaches and dredged islands Article starts out mellow and gets increasingly insane. We can all agree that the only solution is to kill several billion humans and keep killing them until they submit and learn to live in harmony with nature.
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Jul 9, 2018 03:26
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Yeah, there Ted talks about it and everything: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOXikTyZxPA Sand is used in concrete, glass, etc. It's one more straw on the camel's back. We're bacteria and the resources in the petri dish are rapidly vanishing. To put it into perspective how rapidly we are consuming resources, oil use in the U.S. alone was equivalent to 3 square kilometers to height of over 1 meter per day. The U.S. consumes less than 22% of the world's oil. Also, things are going fine: https://twitter.com/TRTWorldNow/status/1015686982502977536 Evil_Greven fucked around with this message at 04:57 on Jul 9, 2018 |
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Jul 9, 2018 03:43
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Without reading anything, I'm 90% sure this is a classic misreading of the technical definition of "resource" and is mainly clickbait. Generally resource reserves are only counted if they are economically viable, at the current price that is. Currently economically viable reserves say absolutely nothing about additional potential reserves if the price increases. So if current reserve deplete and the price rises, new reserves will become economically viable and the amount of resource reserves increases.
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Jul 9, 2018 07:13
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Evil_Greven posted:Yeah, there Ted talks about it and everything: gently caress this heatwave. There has been no rain for so loving long, there's an actual drought coming in one of the rainiest countries on earth (Norway). The local river is near on dry and the entire country is a tinderbox. We were looking at the possibility of a bad flood only two months ago during snow melt, and now farmers are looking at half crops this year - if that. Our electricity is hydro-electric, so that's not great. Month after month is showing historical record temperatures and the coming drought is already the worst on record this side of 1950. We're at the rather unheard of point soon where water shortages are going to be a concern. Summer rains are vastly delayed. Of course, it's a first world country and is well prepared for this deviant weather, but if things are going to start trending this way with any sort of regularity that's going to be not great. We've planned for massive precipitation, I don't think we planned for extended dry seasons. It just doesn't happen. Hopefully this is all a weird weather anomaly we won't see again for some time.
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Jul 9, 2018 09:49
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Trabisnikof posted:Without reading anything, I'm 90% sure this is a classic misreading of the technical definition of "resource" and is mainly clickbait. Well you're 100% wrong, so good job? 
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Jul 9, 2018 13:53
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ah the old contrarian economist take, that shtick never gets old
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Jul 9, 2018 15:12
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Evil_Greven posted:Yeah, there Ted talks about it and everything: It was 112ºF on my bike ride to the train station on Friday in Studio City, CA. That's nuts.
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Jul 9, 2018 18:05
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https://twitter.com/climateprogress/status/1016391128340418562quote:Typical five-day heat waves in the U.S. will be 12°F warmer by mid-century alone, according to the U.S. National Climate Assessment (NCA), which the White House itself reviewed and approved last November. 
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Jul 9, 2018 21:06
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THE BEATWEAVER posted:Well you're 100% wrong, so good job? Ok so I just went back and read the guardian article and couldn’t find any actual mention of “the earth is running out of sand” in the text, just the headline. Instead the article was replete with examples of the damages caused by sand extraction when the price is too high, the exact opposite problem. So it looks like I was correct. Can you find an actual non-TED talk source that describes how the earth is running out of sand? Because the guardian pieces does not.
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Jul 9, 2018 22:06
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I think there's a very good chance we're going to have another record year. Maybe not the hottest, but if it's even in the top five we'll be in a situation where the past five years have been the hottest five years ever recorded.
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Jul 9, 2018 22:12
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THE BEATWEAVER posted:Well you're 100% wrong, so good job? There's nothing in the article that suggests that we are running out of sand. It highlights a lot of negative environmental consequences of sand mining, which is perfectly reasonable, but it ends up being a classic example of Betteridge's law of headlines.
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Jul 9, 2018 22:15
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something broke brain liberals can never seem to grasp is that "running out" of something is an idiotic goalpost to focus on and the problems start long long long long before then try to think about earth in terms of physical reality, not a collection of abstract commodities
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Jul 10, 2018 01:30
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How well do adobe houses work in heat waves?
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Jul 10, 2018 03:22
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Nice piece of fish posted:Of course, it's a first world country and is well prepared for this deviant weather, but if things are going to start trending this way with any sort of regularity that's going to be not great. We've planned for massive precipitation, I don't think we planned for extended dry seasons. It just doesn't happen. Hopefully this is all a weird weather anomaly we won't see again for some time. Most heat wave deaths are not caused by heat directly, but people doing stupid poo poo because they keep acting like it's 90 and not 110 or just don't know any better. I just point that out that because in many ways first world countries aren't prepared for these kind of events, and if we were that death number would be like 5, not 54. If some basic services were to fail or degrade, a whole lot of people will die very quickly whereas some third world people will get by relatively fine. At least until the heat is so bad for so long you literally can't grow food anymore. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC192832/
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Jul 10, 2018 04:15
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Pretty cool that as soon as the Arctic gets a colder pattern to protect sea ice the rest of the hemisphere just fuckin bakes
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Jul 10, 2018 04:47
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Grouchio posted:How well do adobe houses work in heat waves? Adobe walls are like three feet thick they are excellent.
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Jul 10, 2018 04:54
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I was watching some random climate videos, and happened upon one with Guy McPherson thinking there will be an economic collapse in September or October, leading to decline of sulfate emissions and a rapid rise in temperatures and a blue Arctic Ocean event from which we will not recover. Well, I guess we don't have long to wait! Now that you've had a good laugh... the same video had a link to this article in PNAS, which is... not exactly a crank journal... so let's start looking at the abstract: Because of uncertainties in emission scenarios, climate, and carbon cycle feedback, we interpret the Paris Agreement in terms of three climate risk categories and bring in considerations of low-probability (5%) high-impact (LPHI) warming in addition to the central (∼50% probability) value. The current risk category of dangerous warming is extended to more categories, which are defined by us here as follows: >1.5 °C as dangerous; >3 °C as catastrophic; and >5 °C as unknown, implying beyond catastrophic, including existential threats. With unchecked emissions, the central warming can reach the dangerous level within three decades, with the LPHI warming becoming catastrophic by 2050. Uh... hmm. I'm just gonna drop this reminder: So that's just loving wonderful. What other lovely things does this article say? A 4 °C warming by 2100 would subject 47% of the land area and almost 74% of the world population to deadly heat, which could pose existential risks to humans and mammals alike unless massive adaptation measures are implemented, such as providing air conditioning to the entire population or a massive relocation of most of the population to safer climates. Uhhhh... Climate change-induced species extinction is one major concern with warming of such large magnitudes (>5 °C). The current rate of loss of species is ∼1,000-fold the historical rate, due largely to habitat destruction. At this rate, about 25% of species are in danger of extinction in the coming decades (56). Global warming of 6 °C or more (accompanied by increase in ocean acidity due to increased CO2) can act as a major force multiplier and expose as much as 90% of species to the dangers of extinction (57). UHHHH... and that's swell, their projected warming in the absence of global climate change policy is between 2.5°C and 5°C by 2050 and 2100. Welp, I'm going to just try to forget this whole article. Evil_Greven fucked around with this message at 05:24 on Jul 10, 2018 |
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Jul 10, 2018 05:19
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The previous July 6th temp record for downtown LA was only 92?
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Jul 10, 2018 05:33
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actionjackson posted:The previous July 6th temp record for downtown LA was only 92? Most of California sees its peak temperatures near fall not the start of summer
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Jul 10, 2018 06:43
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StabbinHobo posted:something broke brain liberals can never seem to grasp is that "running out" of something is an idiotic goalpost to focus on and the problems start long long long long before then If it's an idiotic goalpost then maybe you should focus more on the people explicitly making that claim than "broke brain liberals" who correctly point out it's nonsense.
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Jul 10, 2018 08:25
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Thug Lessons posted:If it's an idiotic goalpost then maybe you should focus more on the people explicitly making that claim than "broke brain liberals" who correctly point out it's nonsense. again, as usual, no one did make that claim. you just started defending against it out of nowhere
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StabbinHobo posted:again, as usual, no one did make that claim. you just started defending against it out of nowhere The article is called "Are we running out of sand?". Then somebody followed that up by posting a TEDx that claims, (per the description), "we are running out of sand". So are you not reading the thread, or do you just not give a poo poo whether your statements have a basis in reality?
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