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loquacius posted:Nobody here is cheering for Chuck Schumer though??? the fact that you can't tell the difference of whether we're talking about chuck or Bernard should tell you something Feldegast42 posted:I think its the wrong decision as well but given his position I at least understand it and its not a dealbreaker. god forbid we pressure politicians to be better this is not the time to defend bernie as a 2020 candidate, it's the time to angrily call/email/protest the fucker until he understands what he needs to do
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Oh Snapple! posted:He coulda just not fuckin' said anything then if you read the article makes it clear he was being pushed and was trying to talk about other stuff
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90s Rememberer posted:he has my vote to gain, and the votes of other people who are sick of politicians being friendlier to nazis than the people getting stamped on by their boots So like 6, maybe 7 Americans, then?
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90s Rememberer posted:the fact that you can't tell the difference of whether we're talking about chuck or Bernard should tell you something 2020 is going to be brutal and hes absolutely going to be the best candidate so no, it is time to support him
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Jun 27, 2018 21:41
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Let's all vote for Jill Stein instead lol
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:2020 is going to be brutal and hes absolutely going to be the best candidate so no, it is time to support him 2020 would be a lot less brutal if he didn't have these lovely decorum instincts.
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90s Rememberer posted:the fact that you can't tell the difference of whether we're talking about chuck or Bernard should tell you something 90s Rememberer has let himself go far beyond the point of recognizing jokes
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Vox Nihili posted:Let's all vote for Jill Stein instead lol im a proud jill stein for president voter
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I met an IRL communist who professed support for Jill Stein. I think he probably shopped at Whole Foods.
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:im a proud jill stein for president voter same. she was the pragmatic compromise candidate on global warming, the event that will obliterate civilization as we know it
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Agnosticnixie posted:2020 would be a lot less brutal if he didn't have these lovely decorum instincts. i really doubt this stuff will have any effect on the 2020 election in any way tbh
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Vox Nihili posted:So like 6, maybe 7 Americans, then? like 50% of the country doesnt vote Sheng-Ji Yang posted:2020 is going to be brutal and hes absolutely going to be the best candidate so no, it is time to support him 2021 is going to be more brutal when Bernie lets the congress and senate hamstring him into doing nothing Sheng-Ji Yang posted:i really doubt this stuff will have any effect on the 2020 election in any way tbh so we shouldnt complain or hold him accountable because he'll be the best candidate in 2020 and also none of this matters
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90s Rememberer posted:2021 is going to be more brutal when Bernie lets the congress and senate hamstring him into doing nothing sure dude
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the job of the prez is to be steward of the american empire, and therefore they must be a war criminal. bernie is probably the best war criminal we can hope for and I'm looking forward to discussing his war crimes with you all in 2025 or w/e
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Zas posted:the job of the prez is to be steward of the american empire, and therefore they must be a war criminal. bernie is probably the best war criminal we can hope for and I'm looking forward to discussing his war crimes with you all in 2025 or w/e dont worry the current prez is fixing this problem
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new purity test for democrats: -abolish ICE -shame nazi enablers -11 justices bonus points: -bring back the guillotine
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Bernie said something dumb about the famed Red Hen Restaurant in mid-2018, something that I cannot forget, nor forgive. Today, as I cast my vote in the year of our Lord 2020, I take a stand against the perfidious Berners and their false idol. Today I welcome the Green tomorrow.
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My point here is that this was a dumb move to make but everyone who is apparently sincere in making this big a deal out of it is doing some Chicken Little poo poo and I sincerely wish them luck in finding someone better to vote for but in the meantime this thread is worse off for this discussion existing
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listen I just don't want my suicide toxx to have to play out in 2020
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The Nastier Nate posted:-bring back the guillotine this times 10000
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loquacius posted:My point here is that this was a dumb move to make but everyone who is apparently sincere in making this big a deal out of it is doing some Chicken Little poo poo it is a big deal and the fact that you and others will just look the other way or say things like "well he's still the best" is kinda telling pressure the fucker, don't give him a free pass for not being as bad as the average dem
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90s Rememberer posted:so we shouldnt complain or hold him accountable because he'll be the best candidate in 2020 and also none of this matters they are wrong things and bernie is wrong but if a couple of decorous statements are the make or break issue for you your political priorities are misplaced
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The Nastier Nate posted:new purity test for democrats: Only 11?? 69 judges or bust
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loquacius posted:someone better to vote for senator james traficant
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:they are wrong things and bernie is wrong but if a couple of decorous statements are the make or break issue for you your political priorities are misplaced
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Agnosticnixie posted:2020 would be a lot less brutal if he didn't have these lovely decorum instincts. not really, every choice Bernie makes has to be weighed internally for 2020 because the entire field will United against him, if he called for abolishing ICE for example every other candidate would use that as proof he's too radical to win the general election and we can't risk losing against Trump, he might end up calling for it anyway depending on popular support but every move he makes is gonna be calculated until the election, that being said Bernie has always been a center left soc dem politician and not a radical socialist you could say the same thing about Clinton wrt triangulation but the meaningful difference is how the two will actually govern when elected, same with Bernie vs the current field of 2020 contenders
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Lessail posted:bernie making a lot of unforced errors lately smdh he'll learn. guys got 2 years TRUMP and dem base radicalization ahead of him. i5 aint the first time he's said dumb poo poo i doubt itll be the last
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:they are wrong things and bernie is wrong but if a couple of decorous statements are the make or break issue for you your political priorities are misplaced if your brain is saying "we can't push bernie to be better in 2018 because it will hurt 2020" you're basically a hillary pac circa 2014
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90s Rememberer posted:if your brain is saying "we can't push bernie to be better in 2018 because it will hurt 2020" you're basically a hillary pac circa 2014 hate to break it to you buddy but Bernie doesn't read cspam
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:sure dude he's on his "woker than thou" shtick, let him tire himself out a bit
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90s Rememberer posted:if your brain is saying "we can't push bernie to be better in 2018 because it will hurt 2020" you're basically a hillary pac circa 2014 Thankfully no one is saying that, phew
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90s Rememberer posted:if your brain is saying "we can't push bernie to be better in 2018 because it will hurt 2020" you're basically a hillary pac circa 2014 Bernie Sanders has shown a strong tendency to reconsider his own positions if people talk to him about them That doesn't appear to be what you're doing, though, you're just shitposting so don't act like you're pushing anyone to do poo poo
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Hopefully people do talk to him about this and he comes around on it, but it's not time to abandon ship yet and the sky is still firmly in place
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Pros of Bernie: Medicare for all, less imperialist foreign policy, federal $15/hr min wage, legalization of cannabis, raising taxes on corporations and closing tax loopholes to fund social welfare programs Cons: Dodged a question about abolishing ICE, questionable dinner protest opinions
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Ace of Baes posted:Pros of Bernie: Medicare for all, less imperialist foreign policy, federal $15/hr min wage, legalization of cannabis, raising taxes on corporations and closing tax loopholes to fund social welfare programs i like that a pro for bernie is his imperialist foreign policy, nice touch
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90s Rememberer posted:if your brain is saying "we can't push bernie to be better in 2018 because it will hurt 2020" you're basically a hillary pac circa 2014 my brain is way too smart and wise to say that
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90s Rememberer posted:i like that a pro for bernie is his imperialist foreign policy, nice touch which 2020 contender do you think will have a less imperialist FP?
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