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ShinsoBEAM! posted:yeah but telling them that in a class isn't going to humble them, it makes them go yeah and i'm going to be like that having dropped out of CS and switching to political science that moment for me it was writing a paper with an epic takedown of James Madison or Tocqueville or whoever and having a big letter D and unsupported/opinion written all over it in red ink from that point I actually learned how to engage with the material. Ol Musky might be huffing his own farts too much for that to work tho 
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incumbents usually support the status quo, yes
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Sagebrush posted:also construction, particularly student wellness stuff and dorms. like yeah most college dorms could use some improvement but the ones being built now are like hotel suites. massive new fitness centers with hot tubs and rock climbing walls and poo poo bc that's what you need to attract students apparently. lots and lots of money going to those things instead of hirign teacheres well students need to see that the $40k/year they're paying is going somewhere it sure isn't going to faculty
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Jun 27, 2018 19:24
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you gotta attract wealthy out of state checkbooks to your campus somehow
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Jun 27, 2018 19:29
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my entire motivation for going to college was that every job that paid a living wage had a requirement line item that said "degree"
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dragon enthusiast posted:you gotta attract wealthy out of state checkbooks to your campus somehow
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Jun 27, 2018 19:39
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bob dobbs is dead posted:absolutely not true for "most schools" okay most private schools
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hobbesmaster posted:well students need to see that the $40k/year they're paying is going somewhere you don't need to tell me, lol. i make about 60% of what in the bay area is considered a low-income household
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FamDav posted:you need to reconsider how much startup spending on aws (and azure and gcp) is compared to established, semi-tech/non-tech businesses yeah when I worked at startups I was admonished for spending 10k or so a month on compute. my current teams current spend is half a million a month and that’s not really considered “that bad” as compared to other divisions. I work for a clothing company.
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President Beep posted:what's the generally presented argument for more administration? shift of certain core responsibilities away from faculty, increased recognition of legal liability for things like satisfying title ix, and it infrastructure
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Jun 27, 2018 19:53
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universities are turning into the corporations that their increasingly bloated administrative cells used to work for before their stint/retirement gig as administrators -- all kinds of shiny new buildings and facilities that sell the college well to kids and parents while miserably grinding all the people that work there to dust and paying them nothing for the privilege like lots of companies in my old area, including my previous employer, you worked in a shiny new building but the work life was just actively hostile towards everyone
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Jun 27, 2018 19:56
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but the c-suite, on the days they are actually coming into the building, gets to waltz through fancy glass doors and down fine stone flooring into a shiny new elevator to ride to their nice new office, catered to by a fancy new cafeteria, thinking "look how successful we've been!" meanwhile most of the workforce is lucky if they get a 2% raise
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Jun 27, 2018 19:59
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also that building was still too small to hold our workforce and they were always trying to figure out how to pack more people in and just moving people around all the time these buildings are just a shiny dick for management
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Sagebrush posted:also construction, particularly student wellness stuff and dorms. like yeah most college dorms could use some improvement but the ones being built now are like hotel suites. massive new fitness centers with hot tubs and rock climbing walls and poo poo bc that's what you need to attract students apparently. lots and lots of money going to those things instead of hirign teacheres i have a fun story from college the student council wanted to renovate the student center to make it more modern and bigger and the college said uhh building is fine if you want that everyone will have to pay for it, now i was one of the students who heavily used this as in was a member of clubs that actually used the rooms and they had a sick gaming room downstairs that was great too, now they wanted to jack our tutuion but hundreds of dollars per sememster to build this new building over 5 years. the reasoning to increase club space (over 1/2 the club rooms were empty at like all times so lol), and to modernize the building to make it look more hip (who the gently caress cares) so i got some friends together basically protesting it down and they decided to leave it up to a general vote, we ended up getting 3 times the number of voters as the student elections get with our side hella winning, then the next day the student council just did it anyways
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well yeah student government is full of the exact kind of people that Need A Legacy and that was theirs
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ShinsoBEAM! posted:then the next day the student council just did it anyways
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everyone on student council is tracy flick from election
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lancemantis posted:well yeah student government is full of the exact kind of people that Need A Legacy and that was theirs basically, I told them their legacy could be not increasing already sky high tutution costs and maybe start that tradition instead, they basically responded with just take out more loans
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Jun 27, 2018 21:50
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what school allows the student council to order construction?
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ate all the Oreos posted:okay most private schools most private schools are itty bitty liberal arts colleges with no endowment left, charging $40k a year and still losing money because of declining enrollments there is a vast, cavernous abyss between the ivies/stanford/mit and ... everything else
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a lot of the "wealthier" (not really) kids i graduated with, the ones that were actually going to go to college, ended up going to schools like that i was actually the only person in my class to go to a research university, closest after that was couple going to the teachers colleges :/
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attending those little liberal arts colleges is such a baffling choice if you cant get into a really fancy top-rated private college or at least one that makes hiring managers pay attention and/or has a well-connected alumni network (eg: ivy, stanford, mit, caltech, duke, williams, usc, notre dame, georgetown, etc) then you should dehumanize yourself and get a degree at a good state school. if your grades arent good enough to get into a good state school, go to a community college, finish your gen eds, and transfer to a good state school. paying ivy-tier private tuition for a who-cares brand name and undistinguished instruction is just...why?
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one of our interns here turned down a full ride to swarthmore to attend santa clara u which still has my mind boggling
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a kid in my high school class turned down harvard full ride for smu full ride
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FMguru posted:paying ivy-tier private tuition for a who-cares brand name and undistinguished instruction is just...why? I think it's more for parents who need to be able to tell their golf buddies how expensive it is
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FMguru posted:attending those little liberal arts colleges is such a baffling choice 18 year olds don’t have perfect information and don’t rationally analyze everything they do????
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in my case most of these people were going to inherit the family farm/business so their time in college was to maybe learn a bit more because it was expected of them, play a sport they liked, party and gently caress and find someone they weren't related to for a spouse eventually and these little liberal arts schools would give them a lot of leeway and were closer to home than the state colleges and universities
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tying higher education to employment is roughly as good an idea as tying health care to employment.
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tesla is just going nuts, subpoenaing errybody apparently apple, facebook, and dropbox have all been stealing trade secrets
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Farecoal posted:18 year olds don’t have perfect information and don’t rationally analyze everything they do???? ya srsly, i went to a small private college because i went to high school in the ghetto and got no advice on applying to schools because they were just happy i was graduating. consequently i applied in a rush late with no help from my parents (who didn't finish college) and went to the only place that gave me any form of financial aid because i didn't understand that it'd still cost me more in loans than if i'd borrowed to go to UWM to begin with.
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jit bull transpile posted:ya srsly, i went to a small private college because i went to high school in the ghetto and got no advice on applying to schools because they were just happy i was graduating. consequently i applied in a rush late with no help from my parents (who didn't finish college) and went to the only place that gave me any form of financial aid because i didn't understand that it'd still cost me more in loans than if i'd borrowed to go to UWM to begin with. its always funny when techbubb gets into a circlejerk fo projecting how theyre definitely not the privileged ones, no sir, its those other people who made different choices at some arbitrary point
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infernal machines posted:tesla is just going nuts, subpoenaing errybody
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FMguru posted:musk is reaching caine mutiny where-are-the-strawberries levels of nuttiness kurtz needs rivets only it’s elon musk and he still needs rivets.
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tbh i'd really like to watch Sagebrush detonate a dinner party
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Farecoal posted:18 year olds don’t have perfect information and don’t rationally analyze everything they do???? when I had to choose what I wanted to study I panicked because I hadn’t put any thought into that at all and chose a random major (it’s electronics and telecommunications and its bad ) at least I’m studying for free in socialist Europe lmao
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infernal machines posted:tesla is just going nuts, subpoenaing errybody Lol management destroyed evidence by deleting all his photos in front of him and just now realized they likely nuked a fuckton of their own case against him.
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infernal machines posted:tesla is just going nuts, subpoenaing errybody lol the dude ran a tableau report and musk is trying to claim that as he wrote software to hack them
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Trabisnikof posted:lol the dude ran a tableau report and musk is trying to claim that as he wrote software to hack them qirex posted:if he had actually done all that stuff they could have got the fbi to raid his house and seize all his poo poo loving brain trust in tesla's compliance team quote:"I was then told to delete EVERYTHING I had. Then later they said, ‘instead of deleting, we now want you to preserve.’ Most likely because they spoke to their attorney." qirex fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Jun 28, 2018 |
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