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infernal machines posted:in which microsoft admits their windowing model is too broken to ever change haha holy poo poo i was just thinking of how broken window management is now with the existence of loving web apps. endlessly pressing alt-tab or alt-shift-tab to scroll through Safari tabs of Wikipedia, YOSPOS, some bullshit, Youtube--oh wait that some bullshit was Asana or Harvest or whatever I was looking for. then repeat this a few more times to realize, oh the app I want is Paw, a native app which isn't in Safari, so cmd+tab or 3-finger swipe up to open it. i don't know if Sets exacerbates this or helps it, but it seemed like a promising photocopy of what macOS did years ago. kind of a mix of universal tabs and multiple desktops
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just saw an irl billboard “windows hello: you are the password”
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cinci zoo sniper posted:just saw an irl billboard Did you mean: "'You' is the password"? also that's a terrible password
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Jun 28, 2018 15:10
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we are the world we are the password we are the voice who is our passport too so validate us
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sets is a really bad idea. a group of tabs should always be from the same app, and the tabbing feature should be default disabled per application unless either the app or the user enables tabbing for it.
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Boiled Water posted:Did you mean: "'You' is the password"? no, you the person are the password to your computer with windows hello facial recognition tech
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Jun 28, 2018 15:50
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kde did the "sets" thing years ago, and it worked perfectly, i think they just abandoned it because it wasnt very useful, i dont think it made it into plasma 5
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Jun 28, 2018 15:57
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Fiedler posted:sets is a really bad idea. a group of tabs should always be from the same app, and the tabbing feature should be default disabled per application unless either the app or the user enables tabbing for it.
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hes right that all it should do is just give every app a tabbed interface and it should work just like chrome does where you can tear off a tab into a new window if you want sets are something nobody except super nerds will use because who needs multiple desktops of multiple apps regularly? people doing the same spreadsheets every day in offices everywhere just want all apps in simple containers
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Jun 28, 2018 16:36
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jony neuemonic posted:which is too bad, because sets really are a good idea. oh well.
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Jun 28, 2018 17:04
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cinci zoo sniper posted:“windows hello: you are the product”
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thats a cute av
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anthonypants posted:it may be a good idea in theory but i absolutely do not trust microsoft to implement it well  except microsoft.
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Jun 28, 2018 17:30
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anthonypants posted:it may be a good idea in theory but i absolutely do not trust microsoft to implement it well moreover if it requires any code to be written in order to adopt it, expect almost no apps to do so i still see windows xp save dialogs all the time
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Jun 28, 2018 17:58
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i guarantee office 2019 won't even support it
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Jun 28, 2018 18:01
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Office and Visual Studio Code boycotting the Microsoft Store is still very lolworthy to me.
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PleasureKevin posted:haha holy poo poo put the windows on multiple desktops you mongrel
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Jun 28, 2018 19:12
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SupSuper posted:default disabled is how we got in this mess in the first place many apps don't need multiple instances, so a tabbed ui is useless for them. let the app developer enable the tabs feature if it makes sense, and let the user enable it for legacy apps.
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Jun 28, 2018 19:16
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Lambert posted:Office and Visual Studio Code boycotting the Microsoft Store is still very lolworthy to me. that's because VS is actually v good don't know what the office group's reasoning is
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Jun 28, 2018 20:02
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VS is not VSCode. the former is good the latter is a trash heap
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no, vs code is good
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its funny that plangers think vscode is good.
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vscode is a slow text editor with auto complete features and poor development tool integration.
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sublime text is also good but what else you gonna use. notepad++? don't make me lomarf
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ah yeah read that quick, VS owns, vs code is trash
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Jun 28, 2018 20:13
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for text editing notepad++ is pretty good.
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Shaggar posted:for text editing notepad++ is pretty good. whoa, how did this post get stuck for 15 years?
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Jun 28, 2018 20:15
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what else would I use? electron based stuff is way too slow for text editing and also way too bad at programming.
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Jun 28, 2018 20:17
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lol at good editing on windows
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Linux hasn't been able to even do a basic text editor yet so i'd be hella surprised if an IDE came out of it.
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Shaggar posted:Linux hasn't been able to even do a basic text editor yet so i'd be hella surprised if an IDE came out of it. ed is the basic editor
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Lysidas posted:kde did the "sets" thing years ago, and it worked perfectly, i think they just abandoned it because it wasnt very useful, i dont think it made it into plasma 5 historically X applications didn't draw their own title bars, that was a function of the window manager and the window manager could do whatever the hell it wanted like stick multiple tab widgets in a window frame and map and unmap client windows at will unfortunately, separating the application drawn window and the window manager drawn window frame introduces a race condition where resizing the frame happens asynchronously to the resizing of the contents and everything looks like poo poo so the modern thing is for apps to draw their own window frames
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Jun 28, 2018 20:38
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Shaggar posted:what else would I use? electron based stuff is way too slow for text editing and also way too bad at programming. sublime text if your brain worms ward you off vscode
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why would I pay for a text editor when notepad++ already does what I need?
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I use TextMate but that's for The Good OS[X]
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the "demo" is free forever it just nags after 30 days or osmething
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i mean for sublime text emacs is always free forever (but bad)
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:I use TextMate but that's for The Good OS[X] Yes, TextMate is p good though some of its keyboards shortcuts are the most inane lolmac incantations ever.
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