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hakimashou posted:I saw that some of the starter packs for world of big boats are on sale in the steam sale, there's the "ANSHAN PACK" the "GRAF SPEE PACK" and the "TEXAS PACK" and the "EXCLUSIVE STARTER PACK" are any of them worth the 10 bucks? How do you purchase them outside of steam? I'm not finding them in the premium shop and I'm leary to pull the trigger from steam because of this: "This DLC is not compatible with an account created outside of Steam. "
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My guess would be they're Steam exclusives.
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Jun 28, 2018 12:58
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Sounds like the same as the packs that were on sale last time, except they fixed the part where everyone could buy them and make fat stacks of gold at a huge discount
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Jun 28, 2018 13:07
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Well, I finally got a radar mod using the Arsenal to make my Moskva great again in time for Clam Wars. Are the coupons going to expire? I am only ~1/3 of the way to Musashi on coal but plan on getting it eventually.
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NTRabbit posted:BANT remains an option for slacker goons who just want to generate occasional oil for clan bonuses As does WESNK.
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Blindeye posted:Well, I finally got a radar mod using the Arsenal to make my Moskva great again in time for Clam Wars. There have been a lot of discussions about Moskva's general usefulness in CB after the last two seasons. We've seen it rotated out in among Hurricane clans due to its detection range and inability to hide from constant fire. The fact that it will continuously suffer plunging fire means that the 50mm belt will often not come into play except at extreme close range. Des Moines has become the preferred corner camper. Of course, do take this commentary with care. I only speak of the Hurricane meta; it's completely possible to run roughshod over lower leagues with it.
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Heartcatch posted:There have been a lot of discussions about Moskva's general usefulness in CB after the last two seasons. We've seen it rotated out in among Hurricane clans due to its detection range and inability to hide from constant fire. The fact that it will continuously suffer plunging fire means that the 50mm belt will often not come into play except at extreme close range. Des Moines has become the preferred corner camper. I dunno, I have only the DM and Moskva and the DM either had monster games or trash ones because so many engagements lead to bow-tanking or longer-range engagements where I was just burning myself out overthinking. The Moskva just feels more comfortable, personally.
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Flamu running one in the CR33D practice battles would be good enough endorsement for me. He might be an insane sperglord encouraging the worst toxic gamer culture in WoWs, but, I can't think of a player I would say is definitely better than him.
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Jun 28, 2018 16:22
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I agree, but that might just mean the Moskva isn't for mediocre players. Honestly I wish I had a Hindenburg but I'll have the Zao and Henri sooner.
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Flambass had Harugumo on stream today. He ran the full troll build for the silliness of it (AFT, Gun Mod, no concealment mod. 17.2 km range). The handling looks almost unbearably bad. At Tier10, even with IFHE, it really struggles to do any damage at all to capital ships (one game he had 1722 shells fired for I think 500 hits, 66k damage). You of course poo poo on DDs you come into contact with, but even with the concealment build, you're at 6.2km detection, so it's really hard to engage without getting poo poo on from multiple angles. Kitakaze is literally just Akizuki with 2 more torpedo tubes. There basically nothing different about it otherwise, except slightly worse matchmaking. I will still grind them, but unless they do something to make them stand out a bit more it seems very meh so far. I think Tier8 is the sweet spot for that style of DD. Having something so slow and clunky, with situational firepower, at Tier10, seems a bit lackluster.
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So which one's the best, the Anshan, the Graf Spee or the Texas?
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hakimashou posted:So which one's the best, the Anshan, the Graf Spee or the Texas? Depends totally on your play style - the Anshan is a Destroyer, the Graf Spee is a Cruiser, and the Texas is a Battleship. If you haven't played enough to have a favorite ship type, it might not be worth it to grab those. Or, if you do grab them, just hang on to them for a while as you grind up some of the normal tech tree lines of ships. Jumping into the game at the level of play of any of those 3 will just lead to a lot of early death and frustration.
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toadee posted:Depends totally on your play style - the Anshan is a Destroyer, the Graf Spee is a Cruiser, and the Texas is a Battleship. If you haven't played enough to have a favorite ship type, it might not be worth it to grab those. Or, if you do grab them, just hang on to them for a while as you grind up some of the normal tech tree lines of ships. Jumping into the game at the level of play of any of those 3 will just lead to a lot of early death and frustration. The spee is more of a battleship/cruiser hybrid. The guns are more battleship like, the hull is a thin cruiser. But, it is a t6 cruiser with a heal and german t6 sonar. I like it, but she takes a bit to adjust to. I also don't see them played much anymore.
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Jun 28, 2018 22:23
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The Graf Spee is probably the most unique of the three.
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:The Graf Spee is probably the most unique of the three. But the hardest to master. I still haven't clicked with it years after getting it.
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toadee posted:Flambass had Harugumo on stream today. He ran the full troll build for the silliness of it (AFT, Gun Mod, no concealment mod. 17.2 km range). The handling looks almost unbearably bad. At Tier10, even with IFHE, it really struggles to do any damage at all to capital ships (one game he had 1722 shells fired for I think 500 hits, 66k damage). You of course poo poo on DDs you come into contact with, but even with the concealment build, you're at 6.2km detection, so it's really hard to engage without getting poo poo on from multiple angles. They also manage to have worse AA than Grozovoi, despite notionally being AA specialist destroyers.
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Buffed Grozovoi report: Still don't like it. Its certainly more durable with the heal, but I just can't get it to click. 10km torps in the current meta are functionally useless and it just doesn't anything well. If you take AFT you can spam HE from well over 14km now, but so what?
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I won a free* Kidd.  *Once I grind 5000 BXP
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cheese posted:Buffed Grozovoi report: Still don't like it. Its certainly more durable with the heal, but I just can't get it to click. 10km torps in the current meta are functionally useless and it just doesn't anything well. If you take AFT you can spam HE from well over 14km now, but so what? Better than the t10 akizuki reportedly. Since the groz actually has a large enough caliber gun to not shatter on everything with he.
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Stay away from Graf Spee. You have been warned
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The Graf Spee is the most fun cruiser in the game and should have been the model for cruiser gameplay in wows
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MikeC posted:Stay away from Graf Spee. You have been warned Why? Its a fun dumb bote.
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hakimashou posted:So which one's the best, the Anshan, the Graf Spee or the Texas? Graf Spree: A good ship with BB guns, a heal and 8km torps, but it plays unlike the other ships in the line (or other cruisers in general) and is probably a tough ship for a new player to make the most of. Texas: Its a slightly worse New York with hilarious AA. Plays the most like other ships of its line/tier. The correct answer for which to buy is the Guilo Cesare since its a tier 5 BB that is also the best tier 6 BB.
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Kitakaze in particular is just yet another slap in the face of everyone who tries to enjoy playing that line. Yes, when it comes to the paper RU ships we'll treat all the listed stats, some of which were literally physics defying bullshit, as absolute fact, but when it comes to the paper IJN design which was to be the Akizuki successor and mount the same engine as Shimakaze we won't bother. The handling of both is complete garbage that should never have been even remotely been considered reasonable - at 830m, Haragumo has worse turn radius than most of the T10 cruisers, let alone the DDs.
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Someone at WG just has a pathological hatred of IJN DDs. It's like when Payday or whatever went through a period of being terrible because somebody in the studio was obsessed with Dark Souls and thought unreasonable difficulty is a good thing.
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IJN DDs have been long suffering and the US CL line really does not help. I still do well in Shimakaze, but I only play it once in a while. Getting reported 5 times a game while playing Yueyang is far more amusing.
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Oh boy the Omaha. I now remember why my highest tier was the US cruiser line when I stopped: to try and get through the Omaha fast. Boy howdy I should have kept at it 
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DonkeyHotay posted:The Graf Spee is the most fun cruiser in the game and should have been the model for cruiser gameplay in wows Except it isn't the model. You can't angle and tank shells in that thing and it is slow as gently caress for a cruiser. The guns, while ok, really are only good at punishing idiot cruisers that show broadside to you. Having 6 slow shooting guns and lovely HE means that you can't do one of the primary jobs as a cruiser which is to quickly punish DDs that get caught OOP.
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Great, new BB! I'll have a great... ...time.
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Jun 29, 2018 03:39
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That's what you get for being a battleship player. 
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Blindeye posted:Great, new BB! I'll have a great... I refuse to buy it until they give it a decent buff of some kind, it looks awful to grind through
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I just used 200k of my elite xp to get my captain to 18pts so he can at least have CE/FP/AFT as the 3 4 skill abilities.
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MikeC posted:Except it isn't the model. You can't angle and tank shells in that thing and it is slow as gently caress for a cruiser. The guns, while ok, really are only good at punishing idiot cruisers that show broadside to you. Having 6 slow shooting guns and lovely HE means that you can't do one of the primary jobs as a cruiser which is to quickly punish DDs that get caught OOP. Tanking high caliber shells as a cruiser is really, really absurd though Edit: and at the mid ranges that cruiser gameplay would ideally exist at in my head, it isn't uncommon to dev strike equal tier dds with 11in AP. DonkeyHotay fucked around with this message at 04:46 on Jun 29, 2018 |
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EponymousMrYar posted:Oh boy the Omaha. I do pretty well in Omaha just running around at 13ish km kiting away, spamming HE. Just be far enough and unimportant enough away to not be the most appealing target. Easy 70-100k with a few fires on BBs
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I just had a game with one of these, so I guess a Pan-American line (or at least a few premiums) is going to premier at some point.
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I don't understand Wargaming's ship selection at all. The pan-Asian line has no reason to exist at all as they were all repurposed ships from other navies, the high tier British ships are entirely imaginary, ignoring existing or existing paper ships.
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Wargaming just does as they please. There was really no fanfare when they announced the largely paper Soviet line despite trying to use that to cater to the Russian players. Russians were, perhaps not completely ironically, more interested in the Royal Navy.
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It's incredibly dumb because I don't think even most nationalistic Russians have ever particularly cared about their navy, unlike where I could see that strategy working in WoT or WoWP, and the other largest segment of WG's audience - those who actually read up on the ships - REALLY don't care due to how completely irrelevant said navy has been since basically, uh, ever. It truly feels like there's some hypernationalistic poo poo(s) in their main office who's just pushing for all this crap - business, financial or common sense be damned.
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Heartcatch posted:Wargaming just does as they please. There was really no fanfare when they announced the largely paper Soviet line despite trying to use that to cater to the Russian players. Russians were, perhaps not completely ironically, more interested in the Royal Navy. Lord Koth posted:Kitakaze in particular is just yet another slap in the face of everyone who tries to enjoy playing that line. Yes, when it comes to the paper RU ships we'll treat all the listed stats, some of which were literally physics defying bullshit, as absolute fact, but when it comes to the paper IJN design which was to be the Akizuki successor and mount the same engine as Shimakaze we won't bother.
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