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Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Molly shows up in this collection of short stories called 'Bombshells' which is focused on female leads. I swear every other page has her playing 'WWHDD?'

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Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009

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Dawgstar posted:

Molly shows up in this collection of short stories called 'Bombshells' which is focused on female leads. I swear every other page has her playing 'WWHDD?'

Is that the one that takes place between Ghost Story and Skin Game?

Because that one sucked.

That whole rant about The Rack was so loving stupid.

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

Pillbug

biracial bear for uncut posted:

Is that the one that takes place between Ghost Story and Skin Game?

Because that one sucked.

That whole rant about The Rack was so loving stupid.

The Rack like he knew her before she needed to wear a bra, or a different one?

Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009

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awesmoe posted:

The Rack like he knew her before she needed to wear a bra, or a different one?

Molly is the one that rants about her rack in that story.

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

ꜱʜʀɪᴍᴘ?

biracial bear for uncut posted:

Molly is the one that rants about her rack in that story.

This is why I can't recommend Dresden to people.

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here

Dawgstar posted:

Molly shows up in this collection of short stories called 'Bombshells' which is focused on female leads. I swear every other page has her playing 'WWHDD?'

Are any of the women not hot or old?

gerg_861
Jan 2, 2009

Waltzing Along posted:

Are any of the women not hot or old?

My postulate is that Harry just has very low standards. He goes YEARS without getting some. What do you think that's going to do for a guy's ability to objectively assess female attractiveness?

Vateke
Jun 29, 2010
Molly playing "WWHDD" feels extremely in character to me, so I don't see the problem.

"The Rack" was the one thing sexistish thing in Dresden that made me cringe without it being pointed out to me, so yeah, pretty bad.

LLSix
Jan 20, 2010

The real power behind countless overlords

Waltzing Along posted:

Are any of the women not hot or old?

Some of his female characters are young :v:

Mars4523
Feb 17, 2014
This UF book, The Night Dahlia (it's the second in a series) by R.S. Belcher is just so cringeworthy. I'm pretty certain there's not a live female character in this book who the main character doesn't have a sexual history with, and the plot revolves around the protagonist being hired to track down an elf mob boss's daughter who went missing and, it and surprise surprise (spoilers, but who the gently caress cares) became a porn star. Said protagonist's tragic backstory also involves being ejected from the Magic Police after a case involving raped and murdered young women goes sour.

The crazy thing is that I'm pretty sure this author's Weird West series (Shotgun Arcana), while being incredibly dark in tone, wasn't this sleazy.

Ninurta
Sep 19, 2007
What the HELL? That's my cutting board.

Mars4523 posted:

This UF book, The Night Dahlia (it's the second in a series) by R.S. Belcher is just so cringeworthy. I'm pretty certain there's not a live female character in this book who the main character doesn't have a sexual history with, and the plot revolves around the protagonist being hired to track down an elf mob boss's daughter who went missing and, it and surprise surprise (spoilers, but who the gently caress cares) became a porn star. Said protagonist's tragic backstory also involves being ejected from the Magic Police after a case involving raped and murdered young women goes sour.

The crazy thing is that I'm pretty sure this author's Weird West series (Shotgun Arcana), while being incredibly dark in tone, wasn't this sleazy.

Belcher is uneven, at best when it comes to his writing. Shotgun Arcana and Brotherhood of the Wheel were both enjoyable, one in a Weird-Weird West style and the other as UF on wheels. His Nightwise series(now?) is cringeworthy. The first book the protagonist is iirc looking at a crime scene/autopsy and comparing it to his BDSM relationship with his GIRLFRIEND, which gives him extra insight into the crime. I didn't bother to finish the book after that, the only reason I read Brotherhood is because Shotgun Arcana was somewhat interesting and there's been a dearth of Dresden.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Waltzing Along posted:

Are any of the women not hot or old?

Isn't Butter's werewolf girlfriend hot? So, yeah, not that I can recall.

Vateke posted:

Molly playing "WWHDD" feels extremely in character to me, so I don't see the problem.

"The Rack" was the one thing sexistish thing in Dresden that made me cringe without it being pointed out to me, so yeah, pretty bad.

See, I more wanted to read about Molly and not about Harry being the Poochie. (One can add that you can get that in the regular series, if they feel the need.)

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde
Since last page people have been speaking in some sort of code.

What is/are "The Rack" and "Poochie"?

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
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The Bombshells short story has Andi, Justine, and Molly dolling up and going to a svartalf party. On the way in, they have a running joke about the mystical power of "the rack" (their boobs) riffing on the Force.

Decius
Oct 14, 2005

Ramrod XTreme
And a "Poochie" is a cringe-worthy character added in a desperate a tempt to appeal to the crowd/turn a show around, make it "X-Treme". Comes from The Simpsons episode where they added the dog Poochie to Itchy & Scratchy with the infamous sentence 'And if Poochie isn't on screen everyone should ask "Where is Poochie?"'. Also coined the "My planet needs me" and "Poochie died on the way to his home planet". Also a character who seems to unnecessary steal the limelight in a story or is referenced again and again without real purpose, just to get the name in.

Decius fucked around with this message at 07:10 on Jun 14, 2018

Mars4523
Feb 17, 2014

jivjov posted:

The Bombshells short story has Andi, Justine, and Molly dolling up and going to a svartalf party. On the way in, they have a running joke about the mystical power of "the rack" (their boobs) riffing on the Force.
You can't see it, but I am facepalming so hard right now.

At least in Aftermath Murphy behaved like herself and not a walking embodiment of the I Have Boobs (You Must Obey) trope.

What the hell happened?

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

Mars4523 posted:

What the hell happened?

Butcher has a long-standing issue with writing women and/or anything remotely related to sex.

Bombshells isn't that bad about it, really. It's way worse in his other Molly short, Cold Case.

Skippy McPants fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Jun 16, 2018

Vateke
Jun 29, 2010

Skippy McPants posted:

Butcher has a long-standing issue with writing women and/or anything remotely related to sex.

Bombshells isn't that bad about it, really. It's way worse in his other Molly short, Cold Case.

I completely disagree. Yeah, Bombshells wasn't that bad (The rack thing was just cringey), but the Cold Case stuff fit perfectly. The whole point was about how the Winter Lady mantle was affecting here.

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

ꜱʜʀɪᴍᴘ?
I mean, Murphy had to take her pants off and wriggle across the floor to get past that mine in Mavra's lair. There's the entirety of White Night. You can find examples of that crap in every book. It's definitely there.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

I dived a bit into the first book of the Junkyard Druid series. I can have a fine old laugh at 'Colin McCool' but for a series that wants really hard to be progressive, the first two women we get are A) his partner a sexpot who femmes all the fatale and B) his best friend a supposedly shy fae girl with giant hooters.

navyjack
Jul 15, 2006



Dawgstar posted:

I dived a bit into the first book of the Junkyard Druid series. I can have a fine old laugh at 'Colin McCool' but for a series that wants really hard to be progressive, the first two women we get are A) his partner a sexpot who femmes all the fatale and B) his best friend a supposedly shy fae girl with giant hooters.

I couldn’t get more than 5 pages in before I had to scrub it

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Apr 10, 2018

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thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

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What the actual gently caress?

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



thrawn527 posted:

What the actual gently caress?

Dude is dumping rando poo poo on multiple thread.

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

Yeah, don't click the dick pic.

And originally it wasn't linked, it was just posted.

thrawn527 fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Jun 26, 2018

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012

That's a beautiful photograph though.

swimsuit
Jan 22, 2009

yeah
lest we forget

Ika
Dec 30, 2004
Pure insanity

NerdyMcNerdNerd posted:

I didn't mind Fistful of Warlocks. Could have used another go through, maybe a few bits changed, but it wasn't bad.

The story read like an outline for a story, and not a finished story.

Daric
Dec 23, 2007

Shawn:
Do you really want to know my process?

Lassiter:
Absolutely.

Shawn:
Well it starts with a holla! and ends with a Creamsicle.
New Verus is out on Tuesday. Can’t wait.

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

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I've been tearing through Verus. I can't explain why I like it so much, or even if I like it, but I feel compelled to keep reading. The stuff I liked most about Dresden was the world building and there isn't really so much of that here. Verus is a way more likeable and believable protagonist and I love that the rest of his team actually grows more competent, even if he continues to be a completely poo poo detective.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


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Somberbrero posted:

I've been tearing through Verus. I can't explain why I like it so much, or even if I like it, but I feel compelled to keep reading. The stuff I liked most about Dresden was the world building and there isn't really so much of that here. Verus is a way more likeable and believable protagonist and I love that the rest of his team actually grows more competent, even if he continues to be a completely poo poo detective.

Yeah, Verus has a lot of issues but the one thing it does right, and in spades, is capturing that page-turning element that the early Dresden books had and not much else has since captured.

Inspector 34
Mar 9, 2009

DOES NOT RESPECT THE RUN

BUT THEY WILL
When is the next Rivers of London due out? I just finished up all the main books (are there short story collections like Dresden has?) last week and I'm hunting for something to read now. You all seem to like the Alex Verus series. Maybe I could give them a shot. Or possibly the 2nd Sandman Slim book. For now I've started rereading The Wheel of Time, but only until I figure out what to read instead.

M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES

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I love the Verus books for when I need something to waste a day or two reading before moving on. They flow and their fun and I don't feel like I miss anything by following it just for the what-happens-next-ism

Scorchy
Jul 15, 2006

Smug Statement: Elementary, my dear meatbag.

Inspector 34 posted:

When is the next Rivers of London due out? I just finished up all the main books (are there short story collections like Dresden has?) last week and I'm hunting for something to read now. You all seem to like the Alex Verus series. Maybe I could give them a shot. Or possibly the 2nd Sandman Slim book. For now I've started rereading The Wheel of Time, but only until I figure out what to read instead.

I think it's November this year.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


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Morbid Hound

Inspector 34 posted:

When is the next Rivers of London due out? I just finished up all the main books (are there short story collections like Dresden has?)

THere are a few short stories scattered across the web, some comics (Aaronovitch doesn't write all of the comics any more it seems) and a novella that is worth grabbing if you missed it.

You sound like someone who should probably read Verus next, though it's popcorn fare.

Somberbrero
Feb 14, 2009

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Inspector 34 posted:

When is the next Rivers of London due out? I just finished up all the main books (are there short story collections like Dresden has?) last week and I'm hunting for something to read now. You all seem to like the Alex Verus series. Maybe I could give them a shot. Or possibly the 2nd Sandman Slim book. For now I've started rereading The Wheel of Time, but only until I figure out what to read instead.

Verus is a lot of fun, but one book I don't see talked about a lot here is London Falling by Paul Cornell. It's genuinely pretty dang spooky and I love his interpretation of magic. Anyone can do magic it seems, but you probably really really do not want to unless you can cheat at it. The first thirty minutes are tremendously slow as it slowly graduates from police procedural to something else, but it doesn't let up from there. All of the subsequent books have satisfactorily raised the stakes while giving away just a bit of the bigger picture. I don't want to give too much away about twists and such, but there's a scene in the second book where some characters are at an auction bidding on arcane texts with things like 'six years of unhappiness.' It's wild.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

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Somberbrero posted:

Verus is a lot of fun, but one book I don't see talked about a lot here is London Falling by Paul Cornell. It's genuinely pretty dang spooky and I love his interpretation of magic. Anyone can do magic it seems, but you probably really really do not want to unless you can cheat at it. The first thirty minutes are tremendously slow as it slowly graduates from police procedural to something else, but it doesn't let up from there. All of the subsequent books have satisfactorily raised the stakes while giving away just a bit of the bigger picture. I don't want to give too much away about twists and such, but there's a scene in the second book where some characters are at an auction bidding on arcane texts with things like 'six years of unhappiness.' It's wild.

I love the last 75% if London Falling, but that first 25% is truly awful.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


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ALso I just did a search and apparently the "Shadow Police" / London Falling series has been discontinued (at least for now) due the publisher. So, no more books in that series. =(. Still three solid entries though.

I don't recommend it for people because it's far closer to actual horror than most people in this thread want most of the time.

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

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ConfusedUs posted:

I love the last 75% if London Falling, but that first 25% is truly awful.

Is it worth pushing through? I hated it and put it down.

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Inspector 34
Mar 9, 2009

DOES NOT RESPECT THE RUN

BUT THEY WILL
Guess I'll start Alex Verus then! How many books are in the series so far? Is it finished or on-going?

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