I just figured out we need one world government communism to save the poor

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Saint Isaias Boner: Jan 17, 2007; hi how are you ♥

communism might make me slightly poorer so that's a big passaroo!

# ? Jun 4, 2018 21:17

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# ? Jun 9, 2024 16:24

IDONTPOST: Apr 18, 2018

Saint Isaias Boner posted:

communism might make me slightly poorer so that's a big passaroo!

It will make your life unbelievably good.

# ? Jun 4, 2018 22:01

Saint Isaias Boner: Jan 17, 2007; hi how are you ♥

IDONTPOST posted:

It will make your life unbelievably good.

that's what everyone said about alcohol and now I'm here. not going to be taken for that ride again

# ? Jun 4, 2018 22:09

SniperWoreConverse: Mar 20, 2010; Gun Saliva

alcohol has made my life much better than it would be otherwise and I have no regrets about it
I will join the commies

# ? Jun 4, 2018 22:16

IDONTPOST: Apr 18, 2018

Saint Isaias Boner posted:

that's what everyone said about alcohol and now I'm here. not going to be taken for that ride again

Alcohol has helped me immensely besides when I get dehydrated and sick and I assume global communism will function in the same way so I�m all for it.

# ? Jun 4, 2018 23:19

Saint Isaias Boner: Jan 17, 2007; hi how are you ♥

hell i'll just do whatever, as long as communism promises me that i won't lose dollar one I'm all in

# ? Jun 4, 2018 23:23

fabergay egg: Mar 1, 2012; it's not a rhetorical question, for politely saying 'you are an idiot, you don't know what you are talking about'

hey guys you know that dude papa joe stalin? well, get this: he did absolutely nothing wrong

# ? Jun 5, 2018 00:02

guns for tits: Dec 25, 2014

A_Bug_That_Thinks posted:

Not One economics degree?

No, but we found a guy who took a summer class in Econ 101 once

# ? Jun 5, 2018 01:07

Crowsbeak: Oct 9, 2012; by Azathoth; Lipstick Apathy

SniperWoreConverse posted:

alcohol has made my life much better than it would be otherwise and I have no regrets about it
I will join the commies

Best alcohol is mead. Period.

Meanwhile, in good news, the workers at UPS are going to make Amazon hurt for a bit.

# ? Jun 7, 2018 04:12

bitmap: Aug 8, 2006

Im a communist and, yeah, I smoke weed

# ? Jun 7, 2018 17:26

Crowsbeak: Oct 9, 2012; by Azathoth; Lipstick Apathy

Oh yeah....
https://www.axios.com/ups-delivery-strike-teamsters-collective-bargaining-agreement-e702e7e3-cbe7-4df6-8653-4ae0c2d84a2d.html

# ? Jun 8, 2018 04:35

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Eat the capitalists

# ? Jun 8, 2018 05:00

Sedisp: Jun 20, 2012

Crowsbeak posted:

Oh yeah....
https://www.axios.com/ups-delivery-strike-teamsters-collective-bargaining-agreement-e702e7e3-cbe7-4df6-8653-4ae0c2d84a2d.html

*Jack Nicholson from that one scene in the Departed nodding*

# ? Jun 8, 2018 05:09

SniperWoreConverse: Mar 20, 2010; Gun Saliva

Sedisp posted:

*Jack Nicholson from that one scene in the Departed nodding*

# ? Jun 8, 2018 05:20

SniperWoreConverse: Mar 20, 2010; Gun Saliva

Weed communism is very powerful, people continually fail to realize this.

# ? Jun 8, 2018 05:21

Crowsbeak: Oct 9, 2012; by Azathoth; Lipstick Apathy

SniperWoreConverse posted:

Weed communism is very powerful, people continually fail to realize this.

Also lol @ Bezos Post and thinking that an asswipe billionaire like Howard Schultz who promises to cut Mediare and Social Security would beat Trump. Remember because we're "proud of business" we'll vote for this rear end in a top hat. Also we'll overlook the 10 dollar an hour wage he pays his employees because he 's so good on social issues (Also apparently tying employees down by offering health insurance is just charity). Articles like this are why I think libs will need struggle sessions after the revolution comes to purify the country

WAPO posted:

A billionaire who could beat Trump
By Roger Lowenstein
June 7

Howard Schultz has kicked up speculation that he might run for the U.S. presidency. (Ted S. Warren/AP Photo)
Almost a year ago I said in this space, �I have a fantasy that Howard Schultz, of Starbucks fame, will challenge Trump.� This week the coffee retailing mogul made it all but fact, announcing his retirement as the company�s chairman and publicly admitting he is considering a run.

While you�re savoring your first cup, imagine a race in which Trump faced a challenger who ran a business in a way that used to make Americans proud of business.

Imagine him facing a contender who didn�t file for bankruptcy multiple times or even once.

Imagine him challenged by a billionaire who owed his success not to cutting deals with local politicians, or to chiseling lenders and suppliers, but to peddling a product people want.

[Howard Schultz steps down at Starbucks � giving rise to speculation of presidential ambitions]

Imagine two tycoons on the podium � one with a web of murky financial connections to overseas oligarchs and domestic cronies, some of them under criminal investigation, whose finances and tax returns remain a state secret; the other a socially conscious former CEO of an entrepreneurial success story, financed by public shareholders that participate in his company�s success, and whose financial statements are open and transparent.

Imagine, finally, a contest between fear and trust, which polar opposites Trump�s and Schultz�s business careers, respectively, represent. Let Trump go on saying the world is full of enemies, enemies and imagined enemies being the oxygen he inhales.

Trump�s business credo is that the world is fearful terrain, full of people out to chisel us. The Trumpian business universe is a zero-sum place, as if every business were a casino, in which nobody wins without somebody losing. Naturally he wants to shut out foreigners and foreign products, to slap even our friends with destructive tariffs.

Starbucks is a good example of how capitalism creates a positive sum. When Schultz returned from a trip to Italy, in 1983, with the idea that Italian-style coffee bars could become a meeting place in American life, coffeehouse were relatively rare. After acquiring, in 1987, a then-tiny chain, he built it to 28,000 stores in 77 countries.

The 350,000 people Starbucks employs didn�t �take� their jobs from someone else. They are working at jobs that, a generation and a half ago, didn�t exist. Starbucks�s profits over the years (in 2017, operating income was $4.1 billion, or about $150,000 per store) weren�t a loss to some other industry. Schultz made a bet that people would pay more for a higher-end coffee drink served in a caf�-style setting. He partly envisioned, partly created, a need where none previously existed.

Nowhere does his faith in capitalism contrast with Trump�s essential distrust more than overseas. Trump the nationalist says, �Build a wall.� Schultz competes. Starbucks�s growth has slowed at home, but in China it is growing like Topsy.

Multiply that contrast across industries and you get two different visions on the podium, one of an America strangulated with trade restrictions and retaliatory barriers, so that the essential mission of business becomes trying to win political favors and exclusions. The other is closer to Adam Smith.

Schultz is a born promoter with a sometimes self-congratulatory air who can sound, at least in print, as though he drank too many of his double espressos. He has the politician�s penchant for characterizing private success as an expression of public virtue. In his first book, �Pour Your Heart Into It,� he described when, after he had retired as CEO and Starbucks hit a rough patch, he returned to the saddle. �Love is why I had come back as CEO," he wrote, not sparing the saccharine. He also took stock options � an unseemly practice for a billionaire executive who already had ample financial incentive.

Reporters will discover more flaws; we are well used to the fact that political candidates aren�t perfect. I�d take him over Trump in a nanosecond. But the fantasy of November 2020 is a long way off. First, Schultz has an equally important mission: to resurrect the Democratic Party, meaning the Democratic Party of Bill Clinton and JFK � liberal internationalist, pro-growth and economically sensible. Even � let�s say it out loud �"pro-business.�

Pro-business does not mean, necessarily, either lowering or raising corporate taxes, or governing in the narrow interest of Schultz�s richly paid fellow CEOs.

[What Starbucks could learn from this Washington restaurateur about race at work]

Pro-business is a mind-set. It means recognizing that no redistribution of income can succeed if the underlying economy that creates the income is not itself successful. It means recognizing that success in business is a good thing.

Remarkable this needs saying in the country that all but invented modern capitalism, but the center has fallen away from the Democratic Party. One of Trump�s most corrosive effects is to have destroyed the appeal of moderation.

Even before the last election, Bernie Sanders, a socialist, had more energy than any of the Democrats. In this cycle, among elected office holders, Elizabeth Warren has more purchase among blue voters than anyone else. Sanders and Warren both routinely demonize bankers and corporations. Rhetoric to the contrary, profitmaking banks � well-regulated, and with regulations that are strictly enforced � are a good thing, so that the next returning voyager from Italy with a worthy idea can get a loan.

Among potential Democratic contenders, you scarcely hear a favorable word about corporations � even to say �favorable� and �corporations� in the same sentence sounds a little funny these days. It shouldn�t. Though they are loath to admit it, the Democrats� enthusiasm for trade is scarcely greater than that of the White House.

Schultz could, if he chose, be a beacon for liberal Democratic ideals without the we-against-they populism that has also infected the political left. The son of a Brooklyn truck driver, Schultz has an obvious empathy with today�s struggling wage earners. Starbucks was an early adopter, for a fast-food chain, to pay health care benefits; famously, it pays college tuition for some employees and stock options even to part-time workers.

Make no mistake: Starbucks baristas are low on the wage scale, estimated on average at close to $10 an hour, not including benefits. Schultz was in business for profit; he would say wages (with some reasonable floor) are set by supply and demand. As a politician, he is apt to pursue policies than expand opportunities for the bottom, as distinct from targeting the top. He�ll support progressive taxation, but I�m guessing that his goal � an important distinction � will be raising potentials, and eventually outcomes, for the disadvantaged and the middle class, rather than equality per se.

As both a capitalist and liberal, he knows that desirable social policies (including protecting the environment, on which he has been outspoken) also entail costs, regardless of who is paying for them. He recognizes, or has the experience to recognize, that politics involves trade-offs. The appeal of Schultz is not tethered to a particular policy, but it is informed by the idea that liberal capitalism and liberal democracy are not in conflict (in fact, each is a pillar of the other). The hope � this writer�s hope � is that Schultz can reclaim the disappearing middle-ground in American politics.

# ? Jun 9, 2018 00:37

misterevilcat: Apr 30, 2009

Thank you Washington post for putting out this long slow shart of an article.
*jots down to boil Howard Schultz alive in people's java after the revolution. Best part of waking up is dead billionaire in your cup!

# ? Jun 10, 2018 18:51

Crowsbeak: Oct 9, 2012; by Azathoth; Lipstick Apathy

We all need to pay respects to the great man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPA-eDaB4GM

Also, really hope that some sort of trade war starts off.

Barron's posted:

After the Bell: Why Trade Wars Don�t Matter for the Dow�Until They Do

ByBen Levisohn Updated June 11, 2018 5:05 p.m. ET

The Dow Jones Industrial Average headed higher today despite trade tension following this past weekend's G7 meeting. In today's After the Bell, we...

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Threats! Bluster! Mayhem!
Of course, that's how the G7 meeting was going to end. The markets, however, don't seem to mind. Not a bit.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average ticked up 5.78 points to 25,322.31, while the S&P 500 advanced 0.1% to 2782, and the Nasdaq Composite rose 14.41 points, or 0.2%, to 7659.93.

Of course, the meeting ended badly enough that a trade war between the U.S. and its allies is a real possibility. The market, however, refuses to price one in. There's a good reason for that. DataTrek's Nicholas Colas notes that while the headlines were "dramatic," the markets "already know this drill." Colas argues that just as investors price in a "Fed put"--a central bank backstop if the markets start to tumble--they're also pricing in a trade-policy put. If U.S. equity markets start to suffer from too much White House bluster on the matter, so the thinking here goes, the president will have no choice but to back off," Colas says. "True or not, the idea explains the muted market response to date."

Whether it should be, remains to be seen. Capital Economics' Ingvild Borgen Gjerde, for one, argues that investors are underestimating the risk. "While we do not expect a full-blown trade war, the risks have clearly risen recently," she explains. "But investors do not seem to be taking this on board."

And they probably won't...at least not until they become real. And at that point, it might be too late.

https://twitter.com/CornCobMaoist/status/1006234819951554560

Crowsbeak fucked around with this message at 02:59 on Jun 12, 2018

# ? Jun 12, 2018 02:20

COMRADES: Apr 3, 2017; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

https://twitter.com/nachdermas/status/1006271370513342464

lol

just, fuckin lol

bonus

https://twitter.com/nachdermas/status/1006318932628770816

COMRADES fucked around with this message at 06:49 on Jun 12, 2018

# ? Jun 12, 2018 06:47

Crowsbeak: Oct 9, 2012; by Azathoth; Lipstick Apathy

Where's the cucks who are usually here to frig capitalism?

# ? Jun 12, 2018 06:59

Crowsbeak: Oct 9, 2012; by Azathoth; Lipstick Apathy

OH lol.

https://twitter.com/TheGreyKing/status/1006528341824942086

# ? Jun 12, 2018 19:09

Neutrino: Mar 8, 2006; Fallen Rib

Crowsbeak posted:

https://twitter.com/CornCobMaoist/status/1006234819951554560

I'm at a loss, to explain how stupid this is.

# ? Jun 12, 2018 19:58

Crowsbeak: Oct 9, 2012; by Azathoth; Lipstick Apathy

Neutrino posted:

I'm at a loss, to explain how stupid this is.

Socialism get's rid of the Bourgeoisie.

# ? Jun 12, 2018 19:59

Neutrino: Mar 8, 2006; Fallen Rib

Crowsbeak posted:

Socialism get's rid of the Bourgeoisie.

Well yeah. They become the proletariat or die. Not all capitalists are bourgeoisie though. The criminal class; pickpockets, thieves, drug-dealers, blackmarketeers, etc are capitalists too.

# ? Jun 12, 2018 20:03

Crowsbeak: Oct 9, 2012; by Azathoth; Lipstick Apathy

Neutrino posted:

Well yeah. They become the proletariat or die. Not all capitalists are bourgeoisie though. The criminal class; pickpockets, thieves, drug-dealers, blackmarketeers, etc are capitalists too.

That's what the Gulag is for.

# ? Jun 12, 2018 20:05

gary oldmans diary: Sep 26, 2005

socialism should be where the poor bar either stays put or manages a tiny upward arrow and the rich upward arrow isnt so long

# ? Jun 12, 2018 20:06

Neutrino: Mar 8, 2006; Fallen Rib

Like this:

# ? Jun 12, 2018 20:15

Crowsbeak: Oct 9, 2012; by Azathoth; Lipstick Apathy

LOL, won't anyone think of the stocks! (I know Ken is being sarcastic).

https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1006604651922448384

# ? Jun 12, 2018 21:52

WampaLord: Jan 14, 2010

https://twitter.com/gregbrown/status/1006580398929915905

# ? Jun 12, 2018 22:42

Elukka: Feb 18, 2011; For All Mankind

Crowsbeak posted:

We all need to pay respects to the great man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPA-eDaB4GM

Also, really hope that some sort of trade war starts off.

https://twitter.com/CornCobMaoist/status/1006234819951554560

The top right is how social democracy or mixed economies or whatever you wanna call it, like in example the Nordic countries, works. The bottom right just results in misery where a new elite will rapidly be born and stomp down the rest.

Also for some reason both of these are frequently called socialism.

e: vvv I take everything back it's the perfect truth.

Elukka fucked around with this message at 22:56 on Jun 12, 2018

# ? Jun 12, 2018 22:52

gary oldmans diary: Sep 26, 2005

now i see it

# ? Jun 12, 2018 22:53

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# ? Jun 29, 2018 14:45

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# ? Jun 29, 2018 14:54

COMRADES: Apr 3, 2017; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

https://www.vox.com/2018/6/28/17469080/american-dream-steven-brill-inequality-poverty-tailspin

quote:

1) A child�s chance of earning more than his or her parents has plummeted from 90 to 50 percent.

2) Earnings by the top 1 percent of Americans nearly tripled, while middle-class wages have been basically frozen for four decades, adjusting for inflation.

3.) Self-inflicted deaths � from opioid use and other drug addictions � are at record highs.

4) Nearly one in five children in the US are now at risk of going hungry.

5) Among the 35 richest countries in the world, the US now has the highest infant mortality rate and the lowest life expectancy.

nice country

# ? Jun 29, 2018 14:57

bitmap: Aug 8, 2006

my advice is to get out as soon as you can

# ? Jun 29, 2018 16:06

bitmap: Aug 8, 2006

im talking about the sweet embrace of death!!

# ? Jun 29, 2018 16:06

COMRADES: Apr 3, 2017; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

quote:

Justin Costello, a hedge fund manager, smokes his newly purchased $10,000 cannagar on a penthouse balcony in downtown Seattle on Monday, June 18, 2018 in Seattle:

quote:

At Diego Pellicer, Seattle�s high-profile, high-end dispensary someone was set to buy the El Dorado �cannagar��a cigar-shaped roll sporting a full ounce of organic flower and wrapped in 24 karat gold leaf.

look at that motherfucker I hope he gets heavy metals poisoning

# ? Jul 3, 2018 04:29

gary oldmans diary: Sep 26, 2005

if that gold is thin enough to burn that sounds like something you would want to breathe in

# ? Jul 3, 2018 04:44

Former DILF: Jul 13, 2017

gold is a precious metal. precious metals are heavy but they are not heavy metals

# ? Jul 3, 2018 05:47

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gary oldmans diary: Sep 26, 2005

i dont think the economic value of a metal has a direct impact on whether your kidneys can easily remove it. at least not with me. might be a rich persons disease

# ? Jul 3, 2018 06:01

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