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Fleetwood posted:I'm "never-ending government handouts for all" Isn't strange how Infowars weirdos obsess over government this and that but want a much powerful law enforcement?
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Fleetwood posted:I'm "never-ending government handouts for all" "total brainwashing of children" very dissimilar to forcing kids to wear Q shirts at trump rallies
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Jun 29, 2018 18:19
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etalian posted:Isn't strange how Infowars weirdos obsess over government this and that but want a much powerful law enforcement? they have no internal consistency or logic or brain
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Fleetwood posted:I'm "never-ending government handouts for all" I thought they wanted race war
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an actual dog posted:I thought they wanted race war
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Nichael posted:they have no internal consistency or logic or brain She's so mainstream now she attracted a Infowar attack ad.
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Jun 29, 2018 18:22
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the government is running literal concentration camps and Alex Jones is worried about a fresman Rep that hasn't even taken office yet
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etalian posted:She's so mainstream now she attracted a Infowar attack ad. Welp there goes my support, I want my DSA candidates to be underground sensations
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Jun 29, 2018 18:25
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Would Nintendo players be Orthodox Greeks in this analogy? I'd say Sethian Gnostics but that's mostly off of an old Game Boy RPG where you had to climb a tower and kill God.
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an actual dog posted:I thought they wanted race war They do, and are trying to start one
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Main Paineframe posted:btw i'm getting real sick of liberals saying "it's not like support open borders or anything". really want one of them to be dumb enough to try to articulate why they think open borders are bad Shitload of drugs coming through, social disunity from lack of need to integrate, lack of legal protections for so many non-citizens, increased ease of fugitives escaping the jurisdiction where they're wanted, but the bottom line and reason you will never convince most people to support it is that it would reduce wages here. It's even more of a pointless losing issue than gun control
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Shitload of drugs coming through, social disunity from lack of need to integrate, lack of legal protections for so many non-citizens, increased ease of fugitives escaping the jurisdiction where they're wanted, but the bottom line and reason you will never convince most people to support it is that it would reduce wages here. It's even more of a pointless losing issue than gun control the bernie panders creed: Herrenvolk Social Democracy
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Shitload of drugs coming through, social disunity from lack of need to integrate, lack of legal protections for so many non-citizens, increased ease of fugitives escaping the jurisdiction where they're wanted, but the bottom line and reason you will never convince most people to support it is that it would reduce wages here. It's even more of a pointless losing issue than gun control drugs should be legal, racists should gently caress off, 'illegal' status voids legal protections and should be replaced with documented status, international bipartisanship and good relations remove escape capability, and if you're the kind of idiot crybaby white person whose job got taken by a guy who just walked across a desert for four days and doesnt speak the language or own shoes you're a unbelievable loving loser who doesnt deserve a job in the first place
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Jun 29, 2018 18:37
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Itd be much easier to pass amnesty and a reformed immigration process that allowed in the amount of people who want to immigrate, it would also solve the main reason why immigrants depress wages, which is that capitalists exploit them both in paying them less than minimum wage and making them work illegal environments because they can't retaliate due to legal status. Having a border would also allow the US to reject billionaires moving here to buy up a ton of property and leaving it empty as an investment.
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Jun 29, 2018 18:39
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/29/politics/rename-obamacare-obama-trump/index.html had a friend post this with “remember when we had an actual president?”
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mormonpartyboat posted:drugs should be legal, racists should gently caress off, 'illegal' status voids legal protections and should be replaced with documented status, international bipartisanship and good relations remove escape capability, and if you're the kind of idiot crybaby white person whose job got taken by a guy who just walked across a desert for four days and doesnt speak the language or own shoes you're a unbelievable loving loser who doesnt deserve a job in the first place Okay well once drugs are legal, racists have hosed off, illegal status is replaced with documented status, interpol is fully effective, and no one cares about making less money, then we can start talking about open borders
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etalian posted:Isn't strange how Infowars weirdos obsess over government this and that but want a much powerful law enforcement? the government = people that take your money away the police = brown killers that protect your gated community they're separate entities
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Shitload of drugs coming through, social disunity from lack of need to integrate, lack of legal protections for so many non-citizens, increased ease of fugitives escaping the jurisdiction where they're wanted, but the bottom line and reason you will never convince most people to support it is that it would reduce wages here. It's even more of a pointless losing issue than gun control none of the libs are actually going to name any of those things, though, because they actually have no opinion whatsoever about immigration. they just defend the current status quo because they're too cowardly to advocate any sort of change anyway, most of those things are post-hoc justifications that people came up with after the fact, when the eugenics arguments that were the original reason for these restrictive immigration policies suddenly fell out of fashion for some reason (  )
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Okay well once drugs are legal, racists have hosed off, illegal status is replaced with documented status, interpol is fully effective, and no one cares about making less money, then we can start talking about open borders why should we ratify the 13th amendment? it'll create a huge amount of underskilled workers with no real wealth or education, which would just be dag gum mess. yes, i am sympathetic to the plight of the slave, but doing the good thing might be difficult, and
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mormonpartyboat posted:why should we ratify the 13th amendment? it'll create a huge amount of underskilled workers with no real wealth or education, which would just be dag gum mess. yes, i am sympathetic to the plight of the slave, but doing the good thing might be difficult, and We ratified the 13th amendment because slavery is monstrous
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mormonpartyboat posted:if you're the kind of idiot crybaby white person whose job got taken by a guy who just walked across a desert for four days and doesnt speak the language or own shoes you're a unbelievable loving loser who doesnt deserve a job in the first place 
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Open borders are a part of making racists gently caress off though; like, not in terms of demographics bullshit but in terms of the kind of culture they foster especially along said border the more militarized it is.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:We ratified the 13th amendment because slavery is monstrous right, which is why arguments of ~convenience and good order~ are bullshit garbage for idiot babies
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Agnosticnixie posted:Open borders are a part of making racists gently caress off though; like, not in terms of demographics bullshit but in terms of the kind of culture they foster especially along said border the more militarized it is. Generally speaking introducing large amounts of people of another culture doesn't lessen racism, it makes it worse mormonpartyboat posted:right, which is why arguments of ~convenience and good order~ are bullshit garbage for idiot babies People are largely not going to vote for something that makes them lose a bunch of money, is the issue. Especially because the people who'd be hit hardest are already barely making enough money to live
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Shitload of drugs coming through, social disunity from lack of need to integrate, lack of legal protections for so many non-citizens, increased ease of fugitives escaping the jurisdiction where they're wanted, but the bottom line and reason you will never convince most people to support it is that it would reduce wages here. It's even more of a pointless losing issue than gun control how many of these problems happen among the us states, where we have wide open borders
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gradenko_2000 posted:the government is running literal concentration camps and Alex Jones is worried about a fresman Rep that hasn't even taken office yet She hasn't even been elected yet. She won a primary in a safe dem district so there's an overwhelming probability that she will be elected but as of right now she's just a House candidate.
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There's also not a single politician in the US who supports open borders apart from far right libertarian dipshits
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Jeb! Repetition posting or alt-right concern trolling
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Jeb! Repetition posted:We ratified the 13th amendment because slavery is monstrous all the 13th did was codify slavery's enforcement via carceral state
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mormonpartyboat posted:drugs should be legal, racists should gently caress off, 'illegal' status voids legal protections and should be replaced with documented status, international bipartisanship and good relations remove escape capability, and if you're the kind of idiot crybaby white person whose job got taken by a guy who just walked across a desert for four days and doesnt speak the language or own shoes you're a unbelievable loving loser who doesnt deserve a job in the first place Also the dude walking across the desert would be paid the same as a normal worker or else the company would get the copmans sent after them so not only would cost of employment be the same as citizen who is legally allowed to work, it'd have an extra risk of being fined moneys if the desert crosser isn't a citizen/documented.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:We ratified the 13th amendment because slavery is monstrous So you're saying that today's US immigration policy isn't?
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also, "but our wages" isn't a particularly good argument against opening up the borders, because there's basically four categories of people who are allowed to immigrate according to current immigration law: celebrities and executives, multi-millionaires, people with close family in America, and skilled workers in other words, the people most likely to drag down wages are already allowed into the country. the people who are barred from immigrating are mostly those who wouldn't put much downward pressure on wages, such as unskilled workers* *since the minimum wage puts a floor on unskilled worker pay, it's usually difficult to undercut them...unless you criminalize their very presence so that companies can freely violate minimum wage laws without worrying about being reported
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Phi230 posted:Jeb! Repetition posting or alt-right concern trolling jeb repetition is a gimmick account roleplaying a facebook uncle
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To be fair, a couple hours later we've got people who think there's a noticeable amount of hidden support for open borders so he's clearly not totally wrong.
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I think it depends on your definition of open borders, if by open borders you mean an accessible immigration process that allows (almost) anyone who wants to immigrate the ability to and a demilitarized border that's good and what we've had for most of US history. If you mean abolishing the border completely that's probably not so good, at least in current circumstances. There's also the effect that the policy would have on the countries that people are immigrating from to think about.
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Main Paineframe posted:also, "but our wages" isn't a particularly good argument against opening up the borders, because there's basically four categories of people who are allowed to immigrate according to current immigration law: celebrities and executives, multi-millionaires, people with close family in America, and skilled workers Yeah a better immigration policy would make unskilled laborers citizens and regulate the amount of Chinese real estate billionaires and immigrants from stable countries with masters degrees in computer science or whatever.
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Thoguh posted:To be fair, a couple hours later we've got people who think there's a noticeable amount of hidden support for open borders so he's clearly not totally wrong. who cares if there's support or not? i'm just mad at the fact that literal eugenics policies, left over from the days when Congressional reports openly discussed the problem of "inferior races", are treated as such an obviously necessary thing that they can't even be discussed as issues because only crazy people would possibly even consider them
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GalacticAcid posted:the bernie panders creed: Herrenvolk Social Democracy democratic strasserites of amerikkka
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really queer Christmas posted:https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/29/politics/rename-obamacare-obama-trump/index.html
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