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I think you may have found one of the mechanism used by Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 12:02 on Jun 30, 2018 |
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Mendela-effect morons and conspiracy theory 'tards make me seriously wish for the extinction of our stupid brokebrain plains ape species and the rotting fat piles we call our brains.
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Jun 30, 2018 14:04
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Ironic racism has lead to a surge in racism, and ironic conspiracy theories that reality has changed has lead to people actually believing it. I resolve to live my life perfectly serious in all matters to prevent irony from further degrading society.
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Jun 30, 2018 14:44
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek23bXq23pY
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Jun 30, 2018 14:56
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A Buttery Pastry posted:I have incontrovertible evidence that he's right about the location of the Koreas. A lot of Europeans say Korea’s in Southeast Asia, it’s fairly common to see, at least if they write about it in English. The explanation I heard is that in some places people measure north Asia as Kamchatka and poo poo, and I suppose relative to that it’s southeast, although people don’t tend to lump Japan and China in with it. I think it’s just that those people are just poo poo at geography and think “Vietnam War = SE Asia, tropical etc, therefore Korean War must be the same.” And to be fair, “East Asia” as a concept was only coined in the west like 60 years ago, so maybe it’s not conceptualized in the same way in some non English languages? Shitloads of people also insist on lumping South and East Asia together historically despite the fact that the two had an almost impermeable border separating them and were only ever in indirect contact until fairly recently. Americans also don’t know where Korea is but at least they don’t even pretend to. Koramei fucked around with this message at 15:14 on Jun 30, 2018 |
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Jun 30, 2018 15:10
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Koramei posted:A lot of Europeans say Korea’s in Southeast Asia, it’s fairly common to see, at least if they write about it in English. The explanation I heard is that in some places people measure north Asia as Kamchatka and poo poo, and I suppose relative to that it’s southeast, although people don’t tend to lump Japan and China in with it. I've literally never heard anyone think Korea is in Southeast Asia.
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Jun 30, 2018 16:10
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I have, a lot, and it's the kind of thing I notice.
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Jun 30, 2018 16:27
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Koramei posted:I have, a lot, and it's the kind of thing I notice. Could you, like, show us?
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Jun 30, 2018 16:37
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It's generally said off the cuff like "and other SE Asian nations like Korea" so it's kind of a difficult thing to google, but I guess I can divert this thread back to this tangent next time I see it crop up if you insist. You'll notice it too if you look for it though. fe: rereading my post I guess "a lot" sounds like I implied it's a majority belief or something and I didn't mean it like that, but I've seen it dozens of times; it's definitely A Thing.
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Jun 30, 2018 16:46
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It's just I'm trying to ascertain if this is genuinely some wide ranging misconception we can examine or a few people who's knowledge of geography makes them think Andorra is in Africa thinking all those countries in Asia are the same, innit?
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Jun 30, 2018 17:11
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People's geography is laughably bad, especially by the standards of the map nerds that post in this thread. 
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Jun 30, 2018 17:19
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khwarezm posted:makes them think Andorra is in Africa Africa empieza en los Pirineos, so they aren't wrong.
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Jun 30, 2018 17:32
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Someone went to all that work to make a workweek map of the world, but got so lazy they couldn't find the workweek for like, Panama, Cuba, and Peru? Jesus. South Sudan and Somalia, OK. But they couldn't be assed to find out the workweek for Namibia (Mon-Fri) but somehow they got it for Democratic Congo? Also do office jobs in Mexico really work Monday-Saturday? Everyone I know who has ever worked there has been M-F, although now that I'm thinking about it maybe Saturday was a half-day for some people. Also they all had good high paying jobs, so it might be a class thing too.
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Jun 30, 2018 18:55
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If I lived in northern Iran, I'd move south ASAP. That's some bullshit
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Jun 30, 2018 19:53
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Koramei posted:A lot of Europeans say Korea’s in Southeast Asia, it’s fairly common to see, at least if they write about it in English. The explanation I heard is that in some places people measure north Asia as Kamchatka and poo poo, and I suppose relative to that it’s southeast, although people don’t tend to lump Japan and China in with it. I constantly hear people thinking Cyprus is where Crete is, from Americans anyway (if they've heard of it at all). Yet again though these are normal people who instantly go "welp, guess I was wrong" rather than... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4OFj2xQdUI
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Jun 30, 2018 21:44
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khwarezm posted:I've literally never heard anyone think Korea is in Southeast Asia. I think a lot of the confusion comes from MASH. It was a huge cultural touchstone of a tv show set during the Korean war but filmed during and commenting on the Vietnam war. Also most of the scenes in MASH that I've come across seem pretty tropical in climate. Maybe there are some winter episodes of MASH but without trying to seek them out you won't find them. I know I was in High School before I could distinguish between the Korean and Vietnam war so MASH was just kind of in both places and they must be next to eachother by association.
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Jun 30, 2018 21:53
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I believe there's a name for the region/countries in between Germany and Russia, that tend to turn into meatgrinders when the two big powers have a war and act as a sort of buffer zone in times of peace. Can anyone tell me what its called? Or am I making this up?
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Jun 30, 2018 23:14
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Buffer state? Eastern Europe?
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Jun 30, 2018 23:17
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After WW1 those countries were called the „Cordon sanitaire“
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Jun 30, 2018 23:50
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Are there any countries that actually embrace being “eastern” Europe? The term seems to carry such a negative connotation that no one wants to be a part of it.
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Jul 1, 2018 00:31
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Are there any countries that actually embrace being eastern Europe? The term seems to carry such a negative connotation that no one wants to be a part of it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab9C0klYilw
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Jul 1, 2018 01:06
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Count Roland posted:I believe there's a name for the region/countries in between Germany and Russia, that tend to turn into meatgrinders when the two big powers have a war and act as a sort of buffer zone in times of peace. Can anyone tell me what its called? Or am I making this up? Shatter belt?
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Jul 1, 2018 01:16
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Count Roland posted:I believe there's a name for the region/countries in between Germany and Russia, that tend to turn into meatgrinders when the two big powers have a war and act as a sort of buffer zone in times of peace. Can anyone tell me what its called? Or am I making this up? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermarium https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitteleuropa https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Europe
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Jul 1, 2018 01:47
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icantfindaname posted:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermarium Yes, Intermarium is what I was thinking of, thanks.
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Jul 1, 2018 01:52
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Are there any countries that actually embrace being “eastern” Europe? The term seems to carry such a negative connotation that no one wants to be a part of it. So if you're somewhere like Poland or Czechia you say you are Central Europe, the Baltic countries can be squeezed into Northern Europe, Most of the Balkans will have to make do with Southern Europe, though they can pretty things up by calling themselves 'Mediterranean'. Places like Moldova and Ukraine are poo poo out of luck sadly.
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Jul 1, 2018 02:02
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khwarezm posted:I've literally never heard anyone think Korea is in Southeast Asia. I know for a fact that the term is used in e-sports. Dota2, for example, breaks down the world into 6 regions: North America, South America, Europe, CIS (russia and ukraine and central asia), China, and SEA. As China gets their own region with their own setup, the rest of east asia is separated into their own group. Since most east asian dota teams are from philippines, malaysia, & indonesia, they just call the region SEA. "SEA" includes Australia, Japan, New Zealand, and South Korea.
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Jul 1, 2018 02:16
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Peanut President posted:I know for a fact that the term is used in e-sports. Dota2, for example, breaks down the world into 6 regions: North America, South America, Europe, CIS (russia and ukraine and central asia), China, and SEA. As China gets their own region with their own setup, the rest of east asia is separated into their own group. Since most east asian dota teams are from philippines, malaysia, & indonesia, they just call the region SEA. "SEA" includes Australia, Japan, New Zealand, and South Korea. Wow, that's weird, even if most of teams actually are from Southeast Asia if they're going to include Japan and Korea why don't they just call it 'East Asia'? It would still be a better descriptor even without China.
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Jul 1, 2018 02:28
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idk man you'd have to ask valve
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Jul 1, 2018 02:31
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Are there any countries that actually embrace being “eastern” Europe? The term seems to carry such a negative connotation that no one wants to be a part of it. If the ir such place then only in the Balkan region. Peanut President posted:idk man you'd have to ask valve It's called SEA because servers are in Singapore. Koreans and Japanese can't play on Chinese servers, so they end up there. All 3 of them who play Dota 2. cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 06:28 on Jul 1, 2018 |
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Jul 1, 2018 06:26
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there was a korean scene for a short time but having to play qualifiers on a server 10,000 miles away will gently caress that up
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Jul 1, 2018 07:46
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Peanut President posted:there was a korean scene for a short time but having to play qualifiers on a server 10,000 miles away will gently caress that up That scene was so bad Purge could compete in it. Later on, as I remember, Koreans went to actually do well in the International, but my interest to the game was lost by then.
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Jul 1, 2018 07:59
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cinci zoo sniper posted:That scene was so bad Purge could compete in it. Later on, as I remember, Koreans went to actually do well in the International, but my interest to the game was lost by then. This ain't the place but I gotta correct you that the foreign team got the poo poo kicked out of them and that's why everyone  at korea that yearedit: to answer for my horrific crimes of talking about esports have a map 
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Jul 1, 2018 08:20
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Koramei posted:Shitloads of people also insist on lumping South and East Asia together historically despite the fact that the two had an almost impermeable border separating them and were only ever in indirect contact until fairly recently. East Asia and South Asia have had direct trade and cultural links stretching back thousands of years - monks from India brought Buddhism to China somewhere around 0 CE, for instance.
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Jul 1, 2018 08:26
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Peanut President posted:This ain't the place but I gotta correct you that the foreign team got the poo poo kicked out of them and that's why everyone All I remember Korea being bad and laughed at and then a year later good, but yeah this is not the thread and even back then I didn’t care much about the game. Last I bothered with it to some extent was during Chinese turtles and extra blink dagger finger.
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Jul 1, 2018 08:45
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Yin Yang Poland.
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Jul 1, 2018 08:56
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Peanut President posted:This ain't the place but I gotta correct you that the foreign team got the poo poo kicked out of them and that's why everyone Obviously it's a useless map as it didn't really tell you anything about the parties other than their colours. Is there a map of the EU with breakdown by EU parliament groupings or something? That said socialist parties are red but it's weird how conservatives tend to blue.
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Jul 1, 2018 09:07
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a pipe smoking dog posted:That said socialist parties are red but it's weird how conservatives tend to blue.
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Jul 1, 2018 09:52
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But all of Europe is between seas. It's a goddamn peninsula. It's a peninsula constructed mostly from other, smaller peninsulas. If anything, the term is less suitable for the east than any other part of Europe. 
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Jul 1, 2018 11:03
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Lycus posted:Yin Yang Poland. It's the old borders of Germany again.
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Jul 1, 2018 11:35
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a pipe smoking dog posted:Obviously it's a useless map as it didn't really tell you anything about the parties other than their colours. Is there a map of the EU with breakdown by EU parliament groupings or something? Why is that weird? It's the usual colour coding in Europe. I give you that a key would be nice, especially since the map might make you believe green parties get a large percentage of the vote in some European countries. Grevling fucked around with this message at 11:44 on Jul 1, 2018 |
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