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gradenko_2000 posted:it's incredibly abrasive that you're only posting this to try and one-up the thread using a person that we like as a mouthpiece. She isn't even saying not to have ambitious ideas in swing districts; just that you're "usually not going to get them." Barry Convex posted:keith wyd I hate to say this, but I've always though that Ellison is one of the figures that people were projecting a lot onto. It's possible in this case that he just didn't think hard about the United States of Care stuff and somehow didn't realize it's obviously intended to derail single-payer, but that's pretty bad in its own way (since someone so easily derailed is likely to also be derailed in an attempt to actually implement single-payer). Ytlaya has issued a correction as of 17:59 on Jun 30, 2018 |
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SKULL.GIF posted:lol half the everglades gone, that definitely won't have any unpredictable effects Pythons devouring their way through Orlando suburbs inshallah
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Someone please repost the Karl Marx "Had Enough" Garrison NFL parody.
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https://twitter.com/CoreyRobin/status/1013105376353554432?s=19 https://twitter.com/CoreyRobin/status/1013106729071075328?s=19
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Wow, I can't believe she is in the pocket of the cosmetic industry.
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You used to not be able to speak ill of DWS here without a bad Dem who was going to leave the forum forever on 11/9 getting all up in your case
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Jeb! Repetition posted:You used to not be able to speak ill of DWS here without a bad Dem who was going to leave the forum forever on 11/9 getting all up in your case it's no suprise that Jeb! was the governor for Florida.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:https://twitter.com/CoreyRobin/status/1013105376353554432?s=19 always like to check and see what the top voted comment is quote:Michelle, the Millennial Socialists can come whenever they want, but no one should forget actual history: We are where we are today because 130,000+ Progressives in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin in Nov. 2016 made the effort to go to the polls, and then pulled the lever for Jill Stein - a candidate every one of those voters knew could not possibly win even their state, much less the national election. succ!
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:always like to check and see what the top voted comment is Bad dems/Hill Folk overlook how it was the big registered dem voter defection to W that allowed him to win FL.
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the entire point of stuff like court packing is to shut the republicans out of power permanently (by removing all the restrictions and rigging that the republicans built into the system to grant themselves power despite holding support of a small minority of the population)
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SKULL.GIF posted:the entire point of stuff like court packing is to shut the republicans out of power permanently (by removing all the restrictions and rigging that the republicans built into the system to grant themselves power despite holding support of a small minority of the population) GOP court packing allowed them to do things like voter disenfranchisement and also pretty epic gerrymandering.
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etalian posted:GOP court packing allowed them to do things like voter disenfranchisement and also pretty epic gerrymandering. yes, I know, I'm saying that when the democrats retake the government they absolutely have to go on the offensive as hard as possible, because we can't ever permit the republicans to take back power again. And before someone s at me, the republicans are a fascist nazi party now. that combined with them being incredibly overrepresented in government compared to their actual public support is an unacceptable situation that needs to be rectified immediately.Raskolnikov38 posted:like the republicans need anything to justify what they do also yeah, if it wasn't this, they would have found another excuse
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Raskolnikov38 posted:like the republicans need anything to justify what they do that’s why they’re winners and Democrats are losers. please stay strong in the suck onslaught you are going to face in the coming weeks ¡Ocasio!
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etalian posted:GOP court packing allowed them to do things like voter disenfranchisement and also pretty epic gerrymandering. also for the past few years republicans have been threatening to pack appellate courts at the state level every time the partisan composition flips the other direction due to those being elected positions plus having recall elections when a specific court rules against them as in the case of iowa's supreme court ruling in favor of gay marriage
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Main Paineframe posted:people aren't suggesting it because the filibuster is gone, they're suggesting it because the Court has lost all legitimacy. neither the right nor the court itself are pretending to be anything but a partisan organ, so why should anyone else continue to participate in that delusion? if you’ll listen to Thursday’s pod save America, featuring a discussion on Ocasio and her positive uplifting message that means nothing to Democrats as a whole; you’ll hear a discussion on court . and how trump violated the sanctity of the court and it’s 4 conservatives, 4 liberals and a centrist wild card.
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what a lovely politician https://twitter.com/mekosoff/status/1013112368702939136
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Jose posted:what a lovely politician lol https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/znwzpa/rip-phrosties quote:First he came for our Four Loko, and we said nothing. Then he came for our powdered alcohol. Now New York Senator Chuck Schumer is coming for our Phrosties, the clandestine alcoholic-slushy delivery service that has taken off across the five boroughs over the past few months.
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republicans used this thing to do bad things so democrats should not use this thing to do good things
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brap posted:republicans used this thing to do bad things so democrats should not use this thing to do good things having progressives in power would be the same as having republicans or bad dems in power.
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bernie.............thank you https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1013143186607345665
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Joementum posted:bernie.............thank you No joke, Newport's gotten a hell of a lot nicer than it used to be.
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:always like to check and see what the top voted comment is
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brap posted:republicans used this thing to do bad things so democrats should not use this thing to do good things Democrats aren't going to do good things with it.
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https://twitter.com/JohnLockesKnife/status/1013042591942762496cheese posted:Its really odd that Jill Stein has become the scape goat when Gary Johnson siphoned off 3 times as many votes from Trump... it's because centrists believe they are owed the votes of leftists
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They didn't want her as a voter - now they're getting her in Congress.  quote:it's because centrists believe they are owed the votes of leftists It's remarkable how somehow it's the job of a politician to get elected, except when that is the anointed machine candidate, who is then owed getting elected. 
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Absurd Alhazred posted:They didn't want her as a voter - now they're getting her in Congress.
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SKULL.GIF posted:lol half the everglades gone, that definitely won't have any unpredictable effects can't wait to ride tame alligators through the canals of Neo-Miami
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:They aren't getting her (I hope). 
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Absurd Alhazred posted:It's remarkable how somehow it's the job of a politician to get elected, except when that is the anointed machine candidate, who is then owed getting elected. it's the entire raison d'etre of lesser-evilism. it turns the politicians anointed to represent us into blameless entities while shifting the burden of morality on voters. the most sickening thing about that whole ethos is that the morality voters are burdened with is a false, warped concept where voters who cannot stomach voting for evil that hurts the less fortunate in this country are themselves are cast as true evil, while voters who are complicit in the suffering of the less fortunate are given license to pat themselves on the back for being model citizens
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Condiv posted:it's the entire raison d'etre of lesser-evilism. it turns the politicians anointed to represent us into blameless entities while shifting the burden of morality on voters. the most sickening thing about that whole ethos is that the morality voters are burdened with is a false, warped concept where voters who cannot stomach voting for evil that hurts the less fortunate in this country are themselves are cast as true evil, while voters who are complicit in the suffering of the less fortunate are given license to pat themselves on the back for being model citizens Yeah, it's just a very backwards and self-serving way of looking at being an elected representative. Also, I watched that piece from TDS again, as well as AOC's interview with Colbert, and I have to ask: what am I missing here? What about her accent is supposed to jump out at you with distinct cultural baggage? Is it because I didn't grow up here? Except neither did Trevor Noah. 
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