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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:After reading 112 pages of Simpsons thread, I've concluded that the Simpsons aren't done digging towards their lowest point I dunno MargeNod pretty well encapsulates a lot of things. I think those couple of frames of animation might be the precise low point.
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margenod.gif is pretty goddamn awful but I have faith they can do worseKiteAuraan posted:"GREASE ME UP WOMAN!" I still say "Okey dokey!" and think of this scene when presented with life's surprises
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KiteAuraan posted:It's "Sweet Seymour Skinner's Badass Song". Not only is it a great character ep for Skinner, but it gave us "GREASE ME UP WOMAN!", "MAKE WAY FOR WILLY!" and Billy and the Clone-A-Saurus. Up yours children.
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Skinner is a great and underappreciated character.
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Drink-Mix Man posted:Skinner is a great and underappreciated character. He’s not that under appreciated anymore now that steamed hams is a huge meme. Same with Chalmers. They’re subtly some of the best characters on the show. I just realized that the next low for the show will be when they start referencing the memes and poo poo posts in season 33. 
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somebody make :margenod:
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Yeardley Smith thinks Marge vs. the Monorail is one of the worst episodes they've ever done, proving she is just as irritating as her character
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Communist Walrus posted:Yeardley Smith thinks Marge vs. the Monorail is one of the worst episodes they've ever done, proving she is just as irritating as her character The staff had big fights early on about whether the show should remain grounded firmly in reality or not. Matt Groening (and apparently Yeardley Smith) were in the firmly grounded camp, so they fought a lot of stuff everyone loves, like the monorail, Homer going to space, Homer skateboarding into the canyon. I think James L Brooks often overrode Groening on these issues. Now, of course, nobody gives two fucks and they would never fight about such matters.
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The best seasons were produced during the time when the staff was divided between those who wanted a more grounded show and those who wanted a wackier time because all good art comes from conflict. When they were more unified around wackyness the horrible episodes of the early 2000's were created.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:The best seasons were produced during the time when the staff was divided between those who wanted a more grounded show and those who wanted a wackier time because all good art comes from conflict. When they were more unified around wackyness the horrible episodes of the early 2000's were created. The showrunner, Mike Scully, also instituted a "We work 9-5, no more crazy hours writing better jokes" rule around that time.
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PostNouveau posted:Homer skateboarding into the canyon The first time I watched that may have been the hardest I’d ever laughed at American television up until that point.
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Communist Walrus posted:Yeardley Smith thinks Marge vs. the Monorail is one of the worst episodes they've ever done, proving she is just as irritating as her character 
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Communist Walrus posted:Yeardley Smith thinks Marge vs. the Monorail is one of the worst episodes they've ever done, proving she is just as irritating as her character She seems kinda dumb from the commentaries I’ve listened to that have her on them.
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:i rewatched the first 8 episodes of the simpsons over the past 3-4 weeks and when they're all close together I could pinpoint when I started to dislike it. Usenet ruined the Simpsons because the writers increasingly did things just as a contrarian gently caress-you to the Internet
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SeANMcBAY posted:She seems kinda dumb from the commentaries I’ve listened to that have her on them. With the kind of money she's pulling in to just phone in Lisa, she can get away with being dumb
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PostNouveau posted:The showrunner, Mike Scully, also instituted a "We work 9-5, no more crazy hours writing better jokes" rule around that time. Seems reasonable at that point - the show was on autopilot, everyone involved was set for life, why act like a new show out to prove itself If writers want they can come up with better jokes on their own time
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:The best seasons were produced during the time when the staff was divided between those who wanted a more grounded show and those who wanted a wackier time because all good art comes from conflict. When they were more unified around wackyness the horrible episodes of the early 2000's were created. I always just wanted a realistic, down to earth show that was completely off the wall and swarming with magic robots 
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I actually never thought of it that way but that is dead on. All the best episodes are either a down to earth story with wacky moments or a wacky story wit’s down to earth moments.
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It was interesting looking at the ebb and flow even... especially during the golden years. The show started relatively down to earth but in seasons 4 and especially by 5 and 6 things got increasingly insane with stuff like Homer going to space, the whole Captain Wacky thing well describes Homer increasingly turning into a crazy caricature getting into zany adventures which wasn't really in the spirit of how the show started and it's easy to see why Groening and others did not like it, no matter how good the jokes were. David Mirkin really ramped that sort of thing up when he was the showrunner, but Bill Oakley and Josh Weinstein deliberately dialed back on the zaniness (Hank Scorpio notwithstanding) to try and return things a bit to the more down to earth family stories of the earlier seasons with some awareness of how the craziness went a bit too far in the past, like that's a big thing in Homer's Enemy. I find it interesting that my personal favorite seasons are 7 and 8, when Oakley and Weinstein were running things, and I wonder if the perceived decline would be put closer to season 4 if they hadn't been able to reel things in a bit since I and a lot of other people really don't like how things got so disconnected from anything real during the decline years and you can actually see a lot of that in the classic fourth and fifth seasons.
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khwarezm posted:It was interesting looking at the ebb and flow even... especially during the golden years. The show started relatively down to earth but in seasons 4 and especially by 5 and 6 things got increasingly insane with stuff like Homer going to space, the whole Captain Wacky thing well describes Homer increasingly turning into a crazy caricature getting into zany adventures which wasn't really in the spirit of how the show started and it's easy to see why Groening and others did not like it, no matter how good the jokes were. David Mirkin really ramped that sort of thing up when he was the showrunner, but Bill Oakley and Josh Weinstein deliberately dialed back on the zaniness (Hank Scorpio notwithstanding) to try and return things a bit to the more down to earth family stories of the earlier seasons with some awareness of how the craziness went a bit too far in the past, like that's a big thing in Homer's Enemy. I find it interesting that my personal favorite seasons are 7 and 8, when Oakley and Weinstein were running things, and I wonder if the perceived decline would be put closer to season 4 if they hadn't been able to reel things in a bit since I and a lot of other people really don't like how things got so disconnected from anything real during the decline years and you can actually see a lot of that in the classic fourth and fifth seasons. 
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It's weird how the characters are mean to each other now. Like noticeably more malicious and hostile
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Fried Watermelon posted:It's weird how the characters are mean to each other now. Like noticeably more malicious and hostile So instead you just have them be mean, petty, vindictive shits and the jokes write themselves.
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This wasn’t good but I was disappointed it wasn’t worse.
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Watching the middle seasons recently I think I pinpointed a bunch of post 9/11 stuff from 2001-2003 as my personal worsts from the Simpsons. It's not Marge head nod bad, but, like there's a whole episode about the town going nuts accusing the family of being unpatriotic because Bart accidentally moons the flag. It just reeks of this ugly Bush era nationalism that leaves a sour taste in my mouth and really marks a point where it was evident that the show had outlived the era and culture it was built to mock.
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Calaveron posted:What was the highest point of the Simpsons moe lie detector
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SeANMcBAY posted:This wasn’t good but I was disappointed it wasn’t worse. when he scratched the bottom of the lasagna pan it made the unmistakable sound of metal on metal. Yet I would advise AGAINST putting metal in the microwave. are we to believe this is some sort of magic microwave
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SeANMcBAY posted:This wasn’t good but I was disappointed it wasn’t worse. this was how I felt until he said "you were the wings beneath my rear end" e: as in that made it as bad as I was expecting
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Milo and POTUS posted:when he scratched the bottom of the lasagna pan it made the unmistakable sound of metal on metal. Yet I would advise AGAINST putting metal in the microwave. are we to believe this is some sort of magic microwave We goons really are the comic book nerds in that classic scene, right?
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SweetMercifulCrap! posted:I actually never thought of it that way but that is dead on. All the best episodes are either a down to earth story with wacky moments or a wacky story wit’s down to earth moments. Seriously the first season sitcom focused entirely on a realistic family that just happened to be animated didn't work. It wouldn't work until King of the Hill. The complete wackyness of the later seasons also doesn't work. That's why the insane wackyness of the middle seasons that somehow had a realistic grounded family at the heart created a Golden Age. Then we finally realized there were only so many times Marge could leave Homer.
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this is family guy. wiggum is peter, and this is a family guy sketch. ugh
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Hank Azaria: "Wait, am I doing Wiggum or Moe for this scene? Ah, gently caress it."
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Communist Walrus posted:Hank Azaria: "Wait, am I doing Wiggum or Moe for this scene? Ah, gently caress it." Ah poo poo you're right, its super noticable talking to the courier.
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THE BAR posted:
You know, it's amazing that the Simpsons haven't had to get a new car recently. Also that I can't recall an episode about getting new tires or some other maintenance based shennanagins. Or hell just copy the King of the Hill episode when Hank's truck dies.
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I'm glad the voice actors and writers can still get a decent paycheck by fleecing fox at least
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Iron Crowned posted:You know, it's amazing that the Simpsons haven't had to get a new car recently. Also that I can't recall an episode about getting new tires or some other maintenance based shennanagins. Or hell just copy the King of the Hill episode when Hank's truck dies. There's one a while back where Homer gets the tires rotated, and gets scammed a ton. And I think it's the one where they go to the super bowl and jail. I forget.
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Hrist posted:There's one a while back where Homer gets the tires rotated, and gets scammed a ton. And I think it's the one where they go to the super bowl and jail. I forget. Yeah IIRC that episodes starts with Homer getting coupons for something like that and gets scammed.
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Communist Walrus posted:Hank Azaria: "Wait, am I doing Wiggum or Moe for this scene? Ah, gently caress it." I’ve even got a catch phrase: “Nyah!” “Nyah!” “Wah, wah wah...” No... I lost it. emgeejay fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Jul 1, 2018 |
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