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GunnerJ posted:All in all being a defense attorney sounds like a rough gig in Japan. From what I heard from other places around here, Japanese defense attorneys, if they even exist anymore, generally advise their clients to just plead guilty.
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Stroth posted:Yeah, but in Texas they don’t include a standard line item in the budget for “flowers sent to the families of people that we worked to death”. Does that just mean they don't send flowers to those people though
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cdyoung posted:From what I heard from other places around here, Japanese defense attorneys, if they even exist anymore, generally advise their clients to just plead guilty. Yeah. Plea guilty and act proper, they'll be lenient with you. Edit: I wonder if japan has a pardon system
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Part 133: 10/30: Beloved Smother --- DELETED BY ADMIN --- Anon: they’re def guilty Anon: they’re running loose rn… --- DELETED BY ADMIN --- Poor Mishima. Music: Beneath the Mask (Instrumental Version)     I’m eating now. Maybe I should respond later...  Just concentrate on your food.   Come on, let’s finish eating and then send a reply once we go upstairs.    I’ll be counting on you. Don’t worry, Maaku. I trust you. That’s why I ask that you lend me your help.  There’s no need to get too worked up about this, right? Take as much time as you need to get ready. Anything goes as long as it helps out our mission. You have our trust. You’re our leader, after all. Music: Tokyo Emergency    All right, it’s now or never. We’ve got to steal Sae’s heart and clear our names… but first, we have a lot of loving around to do. A lot. We want to unlock the last of our Confidant requests before we head into Mementos so we can knock them out all at once. Unfortunately, Iwai has one, is our only remaining night Confidant we haven’t reached that point for, and is currently gated by Rank 5 Guts, the last unmaxed stat parameter for us. We need to get his and one other Mementos request, but it’s going to take a bit.   It’s believed that all of them have been caused by the Phantom Thieves. The public remains terrified of the cruel and inhumane acts the Phantom Thieves are committing. Dammit! What’s going on? None of that’s our fault!   The only one who can rebuild this rotten world is… that man.  You’re still blindly following the Phantom Thieves? They were nothing but a sweet, sinful trap. The Phantom Thieves played Robin Hood, but they committed those crimes just to please themselves. When they’re inevitably caught, it’ll be a poignant fall from grace, just like in the movies.      The only one who’s giving us a reason to hope is that one politician.  That Shido’s very competent. He worked his way up from the Tokyo Metropolitan Assembly. More than anything, I can tell that he’s a good, upright, and honest man. I like him.   Approval ratings remain low, and it seems that a dissolution of Parliament is inevitable…  I’m not surprised. Politicians do nothing for us. That’s the way it’s always been.   Around this point, this guy moves in and starts selling sweet potatoes that restore SP during the day. It’s quaint, but not that useful.   Did… Did they scramble Kotaro’s brain because they’re bad people?  What? Who told you that? Don’t worry. Everyone’s all right, OK…? Music: Tokyo Daylight   I’m just singing! I don’t need anyone’s permission to rock out!  You’re gonna break your mother’s heart if you keep this up, kid. C’mon… We’ve had to tighten city security because of the Phantom Thieves case. Pack your things and be on your way. Young Rocker, nooooo!   The surge of darkness spreads… Sun God… please come back…  Now that the Phantom Thieves have been covered by shadows, the world will fall into darkness… Sun God, the people are scared! Now is the time for you to shed your light on the path… And those weird religious protesters, too!? What’s happening!?   His aura of popularity was on at full blast. He kinda had the same smell as you…What? Gross.  ...Who’d you go with? A girl? You did, didn’t you? Man, “Veteran Pick-up Artist” is getting pretty desperate. Of course, I went with a girl. She’s a fan of Akechi, so…   I’m just glad the company survived in one piece—and that my family’s got plenty in our savings. By the by, how’s your guy? Oh, I’m sorry—should I not ask?  Well, actually, because he helped with the case so much, they promoted him to CEO. Ohoho…   What are you saying? Did something happen with your boyfriend?  I told him my real age and apologized. And then he said, “No way”… I broke up with him! I guess being honest really isn’t worth it!A moral we can all get behind.    I figured out where the Phantom Thieves’ hideout is. I can sell you the info for a cheap price.  Whoa! Wait a sec, you involved with the investigation or something!? ...Heh, yeah right. A kid like you? I don’t even care. Just get outta here.   No way, we’d just get killed. The police can handle it, so let’s leave this to the pros.  Hey, we can pick up more fares near those government agencies if they’re gonna get busy. But I’m not sure they can catch the Phantom Thieves. They can just make you go brain dead, easy.   Amazingly, we’ve gotten five times more contract sign-ups this autumn than we did last year! That’s because people know that Wanna-B-Alert will protect you when evil suddenly strikes! To celebrate our high contract numbers with our customers, we’re giving away Wanna-Wanna-kun dolls!   It also seems suspicious though. Doesn’t this situation kind of feel like it was all set up?  It’s probably the police sending a message. “This is what happens when you cross the authorities.” This whole thing even impacted the government. I doubt the police are looking forward to Christmas.   The Phantom Thieves are all over the news. People on the internet are always talking about them. If I won that 30 million yen reward, I’d reserve the entire cafe and have a humongous party!  Yeah, yeah. We’ll be waiting to welcome your arrival…   No way. It’d never work. Did you forget? Guys like us make for some annoying enemies, but we’re pretty useless allies.  You know what? That does sound like us, huh?  Wha…? But we just signed the contract… You know… I never thought I’d say this, but I…  D-Don’t worry! I borrowed 1 millin yen from my parents… The stock market’s small-time! I’ll win it big on the foreign exchange market! Celebrolution! DUMP HIM   It costs 500 yen each try, so I can only play once in a while.  Do you have some time?  Yeah, then… let’s go… somewhere quiet.  Music: Suspicion But my mom told them that it was the kid’s own fault for having his money taken… She just told them to leave without hearing what they had to say. Something’s wrong… with my mom. The other day she called my school to complain that the cost of lunch is too high. I begged her not to do it, but she said it’s for my own good… I doubt it was really ‘cause of me though. Once everyone finds out, I’m gonna get made fun of again… But… She told me that once you stop fighting, you lose. And that those who complain, win. My mom was never like this before… She never used to care about stuff like winning or losing…    You are ambushed by a wild MOTHER!  I knew it… Wh-What? Music: Tension  Constantly talking back to me… I knew someone new must have come into the picture. So? Are you the one who’s been such a bad influence on my Shinya?  Yes. Children should obey their parents. But he doesn’t! I want my obedient Shinya back!  S-Stop it…! Will you take responsibility if my Shinya turns into a juvenile delinquent? All that time and money I spent on him, wasted! What are you going to do about THAT, huh? Jeez lady, that’s an awful way to talk about your son.  Hamiru-san, hm? I’m going to remember you. You’re a high schooler, right? Hm, I may just have to tell your school… ...One of their students is stalking my son.  This is supposed to be some massive threat but all I can think about here is that this scene is completely hosed because I’m doing it on a Sunday and am thus not in my uniform. What is she gonna do, call every high school in Tokyo? Stop it… Mom… Come on, Shinya, we’re going home!  He’s my son. I can do whatever I want to him! If you keep meddling with him, I’m going to call the police!  ...Fine. Just know this: I don’t intend to lose. Now let’s go! But… Shinya…? You ARE Shinya, aren’t you!? ...Y-Yes.   I just wanted to say, I’m really sorry about earlier!  Crap, I gotta go… I don’t like the person my mom’s turned into. She won’t listen to anything I say… That’s actually what I wanted to talk to you about today… Um, do you think the Phantom Thieves can turn my mom back into her old self…? Oh poo poo! Shinya appears to be on the verge of tears... Please tell the Phantom Thieves… To change my mom back… to the way she used to be…  Her name? It’s Hanae… Hanae Oda… I gotta go. Let’s play again sometime… Um, and please don’t hate me… I feel Shinya’s brotherly affection...  I need to do something about the target for Shinya… I should discuss this with everyone… Music: Suspicion  And we meet immediately! Sure, why not?  And we’re gonna do it by changin’ his mom’s heart? ...I bet that was a real tough decision to make.I mean, we already changed Hifumi’s mom’s heart, and this time we actually have permission, even if it was given to us by a grade schooler.  I mean, he’s only in elementary school, right? This is a lot for a little kid to be dealing with…  You’re right… We should try to help him as soon as possible. As for the calling card, let’s have him deliver it himself. I guess this counts as a unanimous decision? So, we don’t actually have the request yet. Because we’re going to have Shinya hand-deliver the calling card, we need to wait until we next meet him to get the request. Music: Beneath the Mask  Don’t know what to say… I’m glad you made it home…    What is it?  You got any idea who the true culprit might be? Oh yeah! You said you saw a masked guy, right?  I wanted to ask about that too. Did you really see him? That masked guy’s gotta be the true culprit, right? If this so-called true culprit is acting alone, then there can be no mistake about it. I see.  The next question is, who is that masked man? Unfortunately, I do not know that much. Ugh, you’re useless. That is quite harsh. Aw, you’re making me blush. That wasn’t a compliment... At this point, I have yet to even grasp any clues.Man, you seem bad at this.  Perfect. Leave it to me. It may sound somewhat odd for me to say this, but I am an exceptional detective.  I assure you, I will catch the culprit. Look forward to it. He doesn’t have any clues, but he’s confident enough to say he can definitely catch the guy… No wonder he’s a star detective. Even the way he talks about these things is different from us. What a rube Morgana is.   So, I actually forgot to include the last time I went to Shady Commodities, but all I did that time was unlock the last tier of items from the previous set of purchases and buy some more transmutation catalysts. There’s a bunch of new, incredibly overpriced items, too. The Roland Medal is the big new thing, increasing all stats by +5, but we’re really just here to show that it exists, so we buy some washable armor and bounce. We probably won’t ever even end up laundering it.  About that… I think I would really rather stick to singing.  This is just business as usual for the industry. Besides, you need to understand something… In this world, it’s not enough to just sing. You need to be a star. You need to be entertaining. Got it?Can we change this dude’s heart, please?      We’re ready for TRIAL BY BURGER.   What!? That sucks… All that time you spent studying hard is just gone!  I hate it when our parents just make us study all the time! I’ll get them back for this… I’ll get back all the games and manga they threw out! Harsh.    Offisherrrrr! I got ‘em! I caaaaaught a Phantom Thief! OK, quiet down, sir. Sorry about this. Now let go of him, and we’ll get you home.  Offisher! I believe I jus’ won th’ thirsty jillion yen rewarrrd. I caught… muh Phantom Thief.“Thirsty jillion” makes me loving lose it, it’s so dumb. OK, OK. Who are you talking to? There’s no one over there.GHOST  Hmm? Wha’ are you sayin’? Are you shayin’ yer not a Phantom Thief? Can’t fool meee! Yer a Phantom Thief! OK, stop right there. Let go of him and head on home, OK?   Our club’s gonna bag that reward! Every one of us should be diggin’ up on [sic] dirt on the Phantom Thieves! Well, hold on now. We don’t want to put ourselves in any danger. Relax, buuuddy! We’re unstoppable!   Those who are swayed by fads are fools. The people of this country will never learn.  Is this really what we should be focusing on? Aren’t the elections at the end of the year? Yes, and the ruling party finally split up. Although, it’s too late, considering the approval rating.  Our company’s been hurting financially too after investing in Phantom Thieves related stuff. We’re always the ones getting the short end of the stick. I’ve had enough of this. Politicians are also to blame. They’ve been ignoring that dangerous group for a long time.   Oh, it’s you. Your Japanese has gotten pretty decent.  I want to get better at speaking to customers. Communication is key. That’s why I started following current events more on the news.   Does that mean ya finally wanna come back home to the country?  No. I worked too hard to get here just to leave now. Just gotta hope they’re caught soon. I’ll keep ya safe. We’re all real worried ‘bout ya, y’know.Man, this poor idiot. She’s not gonna gently caress you, dude.  BURGER TIME!    And we’re finally maxed out on everything! Iwai, here we come. Arist fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Jul 3, 2018 |
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It bodes well for Shinya that his mother isn't developing unhealthy interest in jellyfish.
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Arist posted:
This cuts more deeply than any of the trash talk on the Phansite or the other gossip going around town. 
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Foreign Barker, you keep doing you.
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Haifisch posted:It's all worth it on the days you get to cross-examine a parrot or an orca, though. Okay, your avatar is hilarious. Just giving the Thieves (and Akechi) Igor faces.
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Just caught up, great LP so far. I appreciated pointing out all the game commentary radio conversations of a bad move by one player and the expert saying a specific move would be a disastrous mistake immediately before the opponent does it, especially after progressing Hifumi's confidant link.
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Part 134: 10/31-11/1: Spooky Veggies SpooOOOoooky Halloween, everyone! The only holiday I don’t refuse to acknowledge because it’s predicated on exploiting feelings of guilt to make you buy lovely cards for your family! ...Moving on! Anon: waste of tax money imo Anon: they’re def guilty Anon: lol this place went to poo poo Anon: Enough is enough!!! Music: Suspicion   My sister is… serious. Her determination to win this fight is reflected in that casino. She won’t be easy to beat. I know that better than anyone. I want to understand our situation as soon as possible. Let’s go to the Palace today.  Naaaaaaah, I have to make a spookytime costume. Hell if I’m going to figure out how to make a sexy sheet ghost. ...That’s not for me, for the record. Sorry. Perhaps I AM getting a bit too high strung. But I can’t bear seeing my sister like this. We’ll stop her no matter what. If you’re going by any chance, let me know. I’ll make sure I’m ready at a moment’s notice. Music: My Homie   Ummm… Mr. Hiruta, please come to the faculty office at once.  What…? ...Everyone, make sure you study on your own until I return.    We don’t actually need any more social stats, so reading is kinda pointless. There’s only three reasons to keep reading: there’s a trophy for reading all of the books in the game (which is pointless for this LP but I may go for anyway if it’s expedient), unlocking the rest of the hangout spots (which is also pointless by this point but also unlocks a trophy), and getting the reward from Jinbocho by reading all the complicated “three session” books. I want to at least show off what the reward is, so we’ll be reading the last of those complicated books. Would the tactics of the Casanovas in this book still work today? I wonder…     Music: Tokyo Daylight  Oh yeah, what the gently caress are we gonna do with only twenty days?    Ah, don’t say that. I get scared just by thinking they could be lurking nearby… I’ve been writing all over the Phan-Site, asking the Phantom Thieves to give themselves up.Are yours the comments Mishima keeps deleting? Nah, he’s probably only going after like, egregious threats.  It doesn’t seem like the police will catch them anytime soon. I wish Akechi-kun would save us…     President Okumura died ‘cause of the Phantom Thieves, right…? I heard they’re behind all the weird poo poo that’s been going on… They tricked us good, huh… Does that guy not watch the news or something? Way to bring the mood down… Dude, why’s he drawing this poo poo? Is he brave… or just an idiot? Come to think of it, isn’t he notorious? He’s got guts… Maaku gains Guts +1. No, really. It’s pretty great, but it’s one-time, so don’t get any bright ideas.  They’re treating us like villains or something… drat it…    They can’t be forgiven if they caused those mental shutdowns. I’ll quote you in my article. I wonder what the truth really is. Discerning what’s true from what’s not is a real challenge…  I personally agree with you, but critics of the Phantom Thieves won’t change their minds easily. I wonder what the truth really is. Discerning what’s true from what’s not is a real challenge… Well, at least my (For those of you wondering, Yoshida, Sojiro, Foreign Barker, and Drunken Souse are ahead of her. Young Rocker, the religious protesters, and Homeless Man are just below and Fishy Hawker, Starry-eyed Student, and Busy-Looking Young Man are also somewhere on there just through sheer audacity. Hifumi is probably also in the top 10 or so but this game has a lot of good NPCs)  Yeah. We’re not getting all the important info we need since the mass media is unfairly biased.Actuallyit’saboutethicsin I wonder what the truth really is. Discerning what’s true from what’s not is a real challenge…   Um… I’d save it and live off the interest. That’s boring! Boring, but practical. Who knows what the new prime minister will do once he’s in office!   I’m certain. Many people can be counted among their victims.  It’ll be so exciting once they get arrested. You think it’ll happen sometime this year? They announced that they’ve made progress in the investigation. It’s only a matter of time.   It looks like the guys in my team have been studying different diets and workouts, too. It’s like they’ve all changed. Did the Phantom Thieves get to them all or something? No way, the Phantom Thieves are killers. They’d be dead by now if they were targeted by them.   Maybe the Phantom Thieves bribed him. I didn’t expect him to say they weren’t behind that murder. I can never understand what these smart people are thinking.   Yeah, it’s a bit disappointing, but I’m glad nothing bad happened. I just wish those Phantom Thieves would get caught already.  The police are useless. Always telling us what to do, but they can’t catch the Phantom Thieves…   The thing is, this celebrity might actually be a criminal… What should I do?  PERPETUATE THE LIE THAT IS YOUR EXISTENCE But then I-- Um, I mean, my friend, would live each day in fear of being arrested. If the Phantom Thieves had just stayed heroes, I never would have had to deal with all this. Er, you know I was just talking about my friend, right?   There’s a ton of theories that they’re connected to Shujin somehow. Do you know anything? I don’t… I don’t want to believe they’re at my school… Hey, try to look into it while you can. It’ll be too late if you have a psychotic breakdown…What a fuckin’ hero this dude is.  Haru hangs out on the roof. She said she wanted to get Sojiro’s opinion on her vegetables, so maybe we can form a Confidant and hold an impromptu Halloween party at Leblanc at the same timeB.    Huh? At a time like this…? Is this perhaps part of your grand infiltration strategy?  She gets really mad at you if you say “I dunno,” heh. *giggle* You make it sound like it’s really important. I suppose relaxation is pretty vital at times like these… In that case, I’d like to use this opportunity to bring my most recent harvest to Sakura-san. This may be a good opportunity to deepen my bond with Haru... I’d like to stop by Leblanc today… Could you join me?  Great! Let us go then. Music: What’s Going On?  It’s all good. Not like I have customers to deal with. How the hell does this place stay in business? So… this is what you grew?  Yes. I’d like an honest opinion from a culinary professional. “Culinary professional” is maybe stretching it a bit. He makes coffee and curry. drat good coffee and curry, but that’s kinda it. Let me see…  Wow, Sojiro went right for the throat. I see. But, it’s impressive you managed to grow anything at all up on a rooftop of all places. I’m honored to hear you say that. Y’know… I can’t say it tasted good, but it was actually somewhat refreshing. Kinda like how you feel good after taking bitter medicine.“Eating your vegetables reminds me of how I feel when I drink cough syrup” is not exactly glowing praise. Hmm… I first came across the plant in my house… Wait, what!? What the hell are you feeding us!? I mean, it explains how it grew so fast, and on a rooftop of all places, but still! And you found it in your house? Jesus christ, are these veggies haunted? Is the vengeful spirit of Kunikazu Okumura infesting these plants!? Oh god, I ate a ghost! Well, it’s still better than the last time I got haunted where I just spent four and a half minutes eating an awful pie. Thank you very much for the input, Sakura-san. I’ll take note of that.   ...He’s right. That was the same thought I had. I think I understand what Sakura-san meant when he said they were refreshing.  They may prove useful during Palace forays...  I agree! ...I’m so happy. I didn’t expect this hobby of mine to provide value to the Phantom Thieves. This is actually the only thing I can honestly say I’m good at.  But it’s what I want to do. Oh, then… do you think you could help me out again sometime? Like you did today. *nods* OK, I’ll do my best from now on! Haru seems a little more enthusiastic than before...Music: Interrogation Room    There’s the possibility you even infiltrated their company building. Perhaps some sort of connection… ...Tell me about this person!Infiltrated their company building? Not in the real world, no. None of that’s true, in fact. I kind of assumed you were going to ask me about these weird veggies, actually. Music: The Spirit  The Empress arcana represents concepts like nature, motherhood, femininity, and fertility. When reversed, it signifies dependence. Haru seems like a pretty good fit for most of that.    Haru can grow vegetables for us, which is a pared-down version of a similar system from Persona 4 Golden. This system is a little half-baked, honestly. The effects are undoubtedly useful, but they fall into the “too good to waste” category where we’ll never use most of them, and it’s so late in the game that we’re unlikely to have too many major difficulties going forward. There’s just not enough time to really take advantage of it. We’ll go into the effects of the vegetables next time we talk to Haru, though. Music: What’s Going On?  I spent some more time with Haru before escorting her to the train station…Music: Beneath the Mask  …My bad. All I can do is welcome you home…  People desperate for protection from the Phantom Thieves are keeping security companies busy. Events this horrific only happen rarely in history, and the terror among the people is palpable.“Events this horrific only happen rarely in history”? What? Cut the editorializing, buddy, there’s bad poo poo going down everywhere all the time always. We’ve got a bounty on our heads. We don’t have a choice—we have to find out who really did all this.  Here’s our current predicament: we need the Iwai request, but he’s not available tonight. We’re going to go into Mementos the second we get that request, but in the meantime, we just have to wait. So, we read.     Anon: False charges happen, but… Anon: Is the admin an accomplice? --- DELETED BY ADMIN --- Anon: id bet money on the arrest  Really!? Who? I might know... If we report them, will we get 30 million yen? Wanna just report anyone who looks suspicious? --- DELETED BY ADMIN --- Anon: they’re def guilty Anon: This should make em show up Anon: lol this place went to poo poo Anon: Enough is enough!!! Music: So Boring  Don’t it kinda feel different than usual? Do you think? I’m getting a weird feeling too. What do you mean? Hm? Is it just me that thinks nothing has changed? Nothing seems unusual on my end. What about you, Makoto? Someone ask for me? Everything’s normal over here. We most certainly did not ask for you. Is Makoto sick today? Sorry, I only just noticed the chat right now. I think everyone’s just agitated by the Phantom Thieves rumors. Try not to be affected by the people around you. It’s important to stay calm in times like these! Music: Tokyo Daylight     First up, we return Cry of Cthulhu and pick up Woman in the Dark.  How the hell did she set all this up!?  What are your thoughts on this flowerbed? I brought it here in the hopes of doing some serious gardening.  Wow… She’s so diligent…  We can only grow one vegetable at a time, and the rate depends on the species. Still, a few days is awful fast. Guess it’s that weird Okumura Foods genetic tampering. Let me know if you’d like to grow any vegetables. So, what will it be today?  *giggle* That makes me happy. These vegetables should grow nicely here. What do you think?  The Moonlight Carrot restores all of one ally’s SP, and the Sun Tomato restores 100 SP for everyone. We’ll get more options as we rank Haru up.   Six days? Time’s kind of at a premium, so that’s a little disappointing. Oh well. Hehe. I hope you’re looking forward to it.  Hey, what should I… ...Nah, never mind. Let’s train!   Huh? What do you mean?   “Hanae Oda”…  *nods* The Phantom Thieves are targeting my mom…? Music: Alleycat    ...She’s one of the bad guys. To be honest, I’ve thought that for a while now. My mom… Do you think they’ll actually be able to change her heart?   So… Someone has to give this to my mom, right? ...OK, I’ll do it.  Both of these options sound really patronizing to me! Well… It IS kind of my fault… that my mom got this way… She had to deal with a lot, raising me on her own… She had to get stronger… ‘cause I was so weak…  She fights with everyone, about everything, and ends up getting hurt… At this rate, my mom’s gonna break…I was initially kind of on the fence about this one because it felt like a rather slight justification to change a heart (even if she was exacerbating Shinya’s bullying) but I feel better about doing this if the rationale is that she’s going to loving destroy herself if she keeps this up. I want my mom to realize that she doesn’t have to be strong for me anymore… But she won’t listen to me when I tell her that… That’s why I wanna help the Phantom Thieves. I wanna stop my mom.   OK, I’ll give her the calling card. She’s my mom, after all. I really want to help her! The next time you see the Phantom Thieves, please tell them I said thank you. And thanks for talking to them about this, Hamiru-san. I’m going to teach you my best, strongest move… I feel like my bond with Shinya is growing deeper...  This upgrade to Bullet Hail causes it to do about 50% of enemies’ max HP in damage, which is great.  Hey, do me a favor… Don’t tell anyone you saw me crying earlier, OK? Interacting with Shinya has made my heart grow… I feel like my Kindness has increased… Maaku gains Kindness +3. Oh, and say hi to the Phantom Thieves for me. Later. Music: Beneath the Mask    And now we can fulfill that request.   “Do you think the Phantom Thieves are innocent?” It’s funny that people make a big deal out of it.  Of course they’re not innocent. They’re wanted, so they’d be arrested on the spot.  The cabinet’s approval ratings hit rock bottom due to how they’ve dealt with the Phantom Thieves. With Representative Shido leading the criticism, many are starting to consider leaving the party. If the ruling party—the Liberal Co-Prosperity Party—splits, a snap Diet election is certain.  They’re having a falling out because of us? I don’t really get politics.   Music: Break it Down (Elp Version)   Casasnova? He was probably more like a shameless pervert. Perfect vice is almost a virtue, I guess. Well, it seems you were able to learn the nuances of sex appeal. I find these lines so funny for no reason. Maaku gains Charm +3, but it’s a long book so it’s technically +4. And we’ve finished reading the final Jinbocho book. Time for our reward!
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One thing that I would like to say in a Persona 5 re-release is to introduce Haru much easier. And I think introducing her vegetable garden earlier would be the best wasy to do that.
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loving love Fiona Apple posted:One thing that I would like to say in a Persona 5 re-release is to introduce Haru much easier. And I think introducing her vegetable garden earlier would be the best wasy to do that. She shows up in a couple of crowd shots at the school like when you help her move that fertilizer, plus when she was getting into that limo after the fireworks were rained out, but yeah, that wasn't a proper introduction to her, more a teaser of "hey, this character will be important later!" The vegetable garden would help, maybe when you see her moving that fertilizer or something like that.
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Alright so who won the Maakubowl?
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Jun 29, 2018 18:22
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Grouchio posted:Alright so who won the Maakubowl? Haru
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Jun 29, 2018 18:23
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 So, it seems you were looking into a particular company... I just spent the last hour talking about how we took down their boss!Did you have a reason to be looking into their affairs?I told you, we were trying to save his daughter from being married! We went over this!Was there someone you knew who was connected to Mr. Okumura?Are you even listening?
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Jun 29, 2018 21:09
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That Sae conversation, combined with Haru's "wait a long time for stuff" garden mechanic coming when the game is mostly over, sound suspiciously like Haru was originally intended to be introduced much earlier, and then was pushed back to this point during development.
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Jun 29, 2018 21:13
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Tenebrais posted:
I think it's possible that the interrogation scenes that correspond to the protagonist's 'deals' might take place out of synch with the protagonist's narration of their story. Remember, during the interrogation the protagonist has been drugged.
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Jun 29, 2018 21:35
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I always assumed it was out of chronological order. All the Confidant-related interrogation scenes sound like they happened before you even started your story, since she doesn't seem aware of the Metaverse at all.
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Jun 30, 2018 02:06
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megane posted:That Sae conversation, combined with Haru's "wait a long time for stuff" garden mechanic coming when the game is mostly over, sound suspiciously like Haru was originally intended to be introduced much earlier, and then was pushed back to this point during development. Arist might get into it after the game is over but yes it definitely feels like a lot of poo poo got cut and pasted into different chronological order. They teased us with a trailer and some anime cutscenes, then there was radio silence for years before they started drip feeding info on the game, and considering how weird the cutscenes jive with everything else in the game, I think they rewrote the script but salvaged as many assets and scenes as possible. This is of course all just speculation.
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Jun 30, 2018 09:23
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Your glasses are fake, so you clearly have good vision. Who got you the carrots, crime boy!?Deltasquid posted:considering how weird the cutscenes jive with everything else in the game, I think they rewrote the script but salvaged as many assets and scenes as possible. Just look at Haru's first appearance; the (animated) fireworks festival cutscene. Makoto spots her getting into a limo, and we spend several seconds lingering on Haru's face, the gang talk about her a little bit after the scene... and then she promptly leaves the game again for several months. It really feels like that was supposed to be a plot hook of some kind, doesn't it? In fact, the whole fireworks festival scene does very little to actually advance the plot. Sure, the game doesn't need an excuse to put the gang in yukata for a night, but everything about that scene just feels to me like "dumped/rewritten plot arc". (And if they just wanted to do that, why a generic fireworks festival and not, say, Tanabata - which this game seems to pretend barely even exists?) Maybe Haru was supposed to be introduced two months earlier than she is. Or maybe even earlier, and the fireworks festival scene is supposed to be the point where they realize the timid gardening girl from school is actually a rich heiress. Hyper Crab Tank fucked around with this message at 10:10 on Jun 30, 2018 |
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Jun 30, 2018 10:07
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Didn't the anime introduce Haru much earlier than she was in the game?
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Jun 30, 2018 15:11
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Snorb posted:Didn't the anime introduce Haru much earlier than she was in the game? IIRC, they put her in a crowd shot at the school gates, and like did a semi-closeup of her faffing about in the flower beds in front of the school, but that's about it. They just finished Kaneshiro's dungeon, so the fireworks festival thing is coming up soon. And yeah, Tanabata would make more sense, but aren't random fireworks festivals common in summer in Japan? Or is that just anime lying to me and not putting it in the context of Tanabata in the first place?
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Jun 30, 2018 15:41
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Yeah, Japan loves fireworks perhaps more than the US - it's considered a classic summer activity, with festivals taking place almost every weekend. You know, now it's brought up, the way the characters looked at Haru in the scene makes it look more like they're trying to place where they've seen her before rather than just idle curiosity.
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Jun 30, 2018 15:45
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Well she goes to their school so it's not too unusual.
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Jun 30, 2018 21:50
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The game really should've introduced Haru early. Maybe with a scene where the main character finds her growing vegetables on the roof, she becomes a confidant who grows vegetables and the first few unlock abilities are all very weak vegetable-related things so she seems like the worst of the generic non-party confidants. That gives her a reason to actually trust the main character since they'll hang out a little but the player probably won't go all-in trying to max her on a first playthrough. Then boom, companion stuff kicks in either taking over after a fixed number of stars (which could give away the ruse) or resetting her progress due to the death of her father.
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Jul 1, 2018 12:23
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Haru really might be the game's biggest waste of potential. The "Late-Game party member" and "Late Game Social Link" really shouldn't be the same character lol. That'd be like having The Hanged Man boy from P4 as your final party member
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Jul 1, 2018 13:19
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PoptartsNinja posted:The game really should've introduced Haru early. Maybe with a scene where the main character finds her growing vegetables on the roof, she becomes a confidant who grows vegetables and the first few unlock abilities are all very weak vegetable-related things so she seems like the worst of the generic non-party confidants. That gives her a reason to actually trust the main character since they'll hang out a little but the player probably won't go all-in trying to max her on a first playthrough. It would've been better, I think. It makes the fireworks festival make more sense too. Gate her social link by the story the same way Sojiro's is gated; then the second half can be post-dungeon and involve her feelings about her dad. Present it as her being too worried about something unseen to hang out with you (i.e. her suspicions about her dad's illegalities). It's not like there's not precedent for utility abilities from party social links either; Yusuke has the card painting thing, for example. Blue Labrador posted:Haru really might be the game's biggest waste of potential. The "Late-Game party member" and "Late Game Social Link" really shouldn't be the same character lol. That'd be like having The Hanged Man boy from P4 as your final party member Heck, they arguably treat Akechi better on that front since he comes with social links pre-upgraded so he's not useless when you get him. Haru not being able to use Baton Pass for a lot of the time you have her reduces her usefulness a lot (especially if you don't have the right stats when you get her to start her social link). Hyper Crab Tank fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Jul 1, 2018 |
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Jul 1, 2018 17:08
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PoptartsNinja posted:Then boom, companion stuff kicks in either taking over after a fixed number of stars (which could give away the ruse) or resetting her progress due to the death of her father. Just do the same thing they did with Akechi. Give Haru the party member confidant abilities when she joins the party.
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Jul 1, 2018 17:11
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Kevos Setzer posted:Just do the same thing they did with Akechi. Give Haru the party member confidant abilities when she joins the party. That's an option, yeah. But if you're trying to keep the mystery of who will join the party intact, giving her a bunch of weak crappy confidant abilities that buff her plant growing and then just resetting her and then just combining all those weak weak abilities into a single pretty good one after joining the party would do a fair bit to obfuscate who'd be joining. It would also lead to the existential dread that maybe Mishima could be a late-joining party member too...
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Jul 1, 2018 17:44
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PoptartsNinja posted:That's an option, yeah. But if you're trying to keep the mystery of who will join the party intact, giving her a bunch of weak crappy confidant abilities that buff her plant growing and then just resetting her and then just combining all those weak weak abilities into a single pretty good one after joining the party would do a fair bit to obfuscate who'd be joining. 
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I would think Mishima would be an alternative navigator, if anything. Also, if I was to introduce Haru early I'd make it just after Kaneshiro's palace. Have Makoto mention that someone else has been using the roof and she hasn't had time to investigate due to following you around, then introduce Haru as a kind third year who likes planting things, no mention of her money yet.
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Jul 2, 2018 05:10
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poo poo, that's actually sort of cool
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Jul 2, 2018 05:37
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Oxxidation posted:poo poo, that's actually sort of cool Counterpoint: wrist belt.
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Jul 2, 2018 07:28
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I can't for the life of me remember where I saw this, but one of the promo materials or cover blurbs in the store gave each of the characters a "title" of sorts about their role. E.g. Ann was labeled "the seductress", Ruiji was labeled "the muscle", etc. like you would for an Ocean's Eleven type heist. Haru was labeled "The inside woman" which makes it sound like she was originally designed as the rich girl of the squad who scouts out marks or something. I guess it's not wrong to label her as the inside woman for Okumura's palace, in a way, but it does sound a bit weird with the new pacing. (Or maybe it's the marketing team just making poo poo up whole cloth.)
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Jul 2, 2018 08:25
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I am amazed that Haru's cooking did not lead to a Mystery Food X thing.
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Jul 2, 2018 18:18
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Jul 2, 2018 18:27
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Who would Mishima's Persona be? Ishikawa Goemon?
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Jul 2, 2018 19:04
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I've had this theory that social links are with people who either have a Persona or the potential for it.
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Jul 2, 2018 19:19
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PoptartsNinja posted:Who would Mishima's Persona be? Wasn't that Yosuke's?
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I feel like Don Quixote would be a good fit
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