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I honestly really like some of the weirdness too. But even when it's good, it's usually tainted by something - horrible coloring (DK2), horrible writing (DK2, Holy Terror), and sometimes the weirdness is just too much and eclipses any of the good (the ink splatters here, that one Judge Dredd picture with the inexplicable legs/feet). But even when it's good I just find it hard to believe this is the same guy that did Ronin. THAT artwork should be his legacy. Rotten Red Rod fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Jun 29, 2018 |
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Rotten Red Rod posted:I think we've seen this one before - wasn't it the fault of a crappy colorist, and the original drawing looks fine? The 4 looks nutty regardless of shading or color.
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zoux posted:No one can touch Del Mundo on covers these days. Winter Soldier #11 Something about it, and Del Mundo's work in general, reminds me of Sanjulian    
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Nonvalueadded User posted:Unrealistic art! We can’t even see her rear end at the same time as her boobs! I know Re3d’s the stretchy one, but this is possible for all female supers. I’ve seen it’s possible from a whole bunch of floppy covers from the late ‘90s! Looks like this one came from Marvel 2-in-One #1, the Penciler was Jim Cheung and the inkers were John Dell/Walden Wong. Jim and John don't seem to have a problem drawing the female form normally, so it might have been a rush for that panel. Then again, it could have been Walden Wong, who seems to have a type.
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That's not Cheung. Marvel 2-in-1 had two stories, of which he only pencilled the first. Edit: It was Land.
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That was from the 'primer pages', not the actual series, which has entirely different creators. https://www.comixology.com/Marvel-Two-In-One-Marvel-Legacy-Primer-Pages/digital-comic/605654
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Teenage Fansub posted:That was from the 'primer pages', not the actual series, which has entirely different creators.
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Land only uses Sandra Bullock and maybe one or two other women for all of the female characters he traces so it's always super easy to spot them even if he didn't have that super plastic coloring that he usually gets. He also consistently makes women a lot broader at the shoulder than at the hips which is weird.
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Land is all about the stereotype white porn actress body, gigantic tits and nonexistent rear end.    e: it's weird that She-Hulk has the least weird anatomy 
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Flesh Forge posted:Land is all about the stereotype white porn actress body, gigantic tits and nonexistent rear end.
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Why does jennifer need guns
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Because she seems to be lacking in natural ones.
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Sometimes you don't want to have to walk all the way over to someone to kill them. Guns let you be lazy once in a while.
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That cover was from the Peter David run where she was a... bounty hunter? With a Skrull sidekick? Who pretended to be She-Hulk sometimes, I think? And there may or may not have still been a plotline with her being semi-unHulked or randomly losing her powers as fallout from Civil War/World War Hulk era stories where SHIELD tested some anti-Hulk device on her? I don't know, I never got into that run. Peter David giving Hulks guns has some precedent though: 
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site posted:Why does jennifer need guns They had Red Hulk use a gun at first, didn't they? (God drat that was such garbage.)
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Edge & Christian posted:That cover was from the Peter David run where she was a... bounty hunter? With a Skrull sidekick? Who pretended to be She-Hulk sometimes, I think? And there may or may not have still been a plotline with her being semi-unHulked or randomly losing her powers as fallout from Civil War/World War Hulk era stories where SHIELD tested some anti-Hulk device on her? I don't know, I never got into that run. Isn't that the cover of the Doom comic?
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Hulk is exhibiting his sense of humor. Y'see, if he shows up with an enormous crew-served weapon as a sidearm, Cable will find out, feel inadequate, and escalate. Hulk just waiting for the X-Rupture.
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I think hulk loaded the bullets in upside down.
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Elfface posted:I think hulk loaded the bullets in upside down. This is pretty funny if you imagine this in Hulk’s voice/speaking style
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Elfface posted:I think hulk loaded the bullets in upside down. Maybe he's firing the gun at himself and getting more and more angry? 
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Has there ever been an arc like that, where he intentionally has some torture device strapped to him to constantly make himself madder and stronger
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I forget the details of what exactly led to it, but Jason Aaron did a clearly Crank-inspired arc called "Stay Angry" in the same arc where Doctor Doom split Bruce Banner and Hulk into two separate people and Bruce Banner turned into an evil cackling Doctor Moreau. But as for what you're talking about, I think that's just Speedball after Civil War.
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site posted:Has there ever been an arc like that, where he intentionally has some torture device strapped to him to constantly make himself madder and stronger Not torture or self inflicted, but in the Onslaught event he had Jean Grey hit him with some telepathic attack to make him incapable of feeling anything other than anger so he could punch harder.
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Edge & Christian posted:I forget the details of what exactly led to it, but Jason Aaron did a clearly Crank-inspired arc called "Stay Angry" in the same arc where Doctor Doom split Bruce Banner and Hulk into two separate people and Bruce Banner turned into an evil cackling Doctor Moreau. This is kinda beautiful and now I went to read more comics where the main character goes through the Crank route.
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Caveman Wolverine was not a good look.
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site posted:Has there ever been an arc like that, where he intentionally has some torture device strapped to him to constantly make himself madder and stronger He doesn't really need it. Hulk gets pissed off when he finds something he can't lift or smash, so he tends to escalate.
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Jedit posted:He doesn't really need it. Hulk gets pissed off when he finds something he can't lift or smash, so he tends to escalate. Doesn't being the Hulk also piss him off? He knows he's got anger issues that's gotta be annoying on some level. Honestly, The Hulk was always my least favorite hero. Dumb strength from raging out is the worst power and it's certainly an unhealthy thing to strife for.
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cant cook creole bream posted:Doesn't being the Hulk also piss him off? He knows he's got anger issues that's gotta be annoying on some level. No, Hulk loves being the Hulk. It's the idea that he might become Banner again that he hates, often to the point where he denies he even is Banner.
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cant cook creole bream posted:Doesn't being the Hulk also piss him off? He knows he's got anger issues that's gotta be annoying on some level. I once saw someone describe the hulk as something like toxic masculinity made manifest and i was like 
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site posted:I once saw someone describe the hulk as something like toxic masculinity made manifest and i was like Only since they abandoned "Hulk just want to be left alone" as a pillar of the character, though, which is also the point that Hulk gets stronger as he gets angrier just became going super saiyan instead of the rage of frankenstein's monster.
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RandallODim posted:Only since they abandoned "Hulk just want to be left alone" as a pillar of the character, though, which is also the point that Hulk gets stronger as he gets angrier just became going super saiyan instead of the rage of frankenstein's monster. Hulk used to be a cool dude. 
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prefect posted:Hulk used to be a cool dude. “Hulk have detailed stack-rank of Disney Princesses according to ratings on poise, attractiveness, grace, and courage. Do any puny humans have problem with Hulk’s appreciation of the classics?” “Doctor Strange, Hulk want to know how you stopped all those brooms you animated by accident. Hulk know incident thinly-veiled biographical retelling of your sorcerous apprenticeship.” “Hulk want to know why Hulk have to save woman from Black Queen. Why always a Black Queen? Why not a White Queen like Emma Frost? See, Hulk told puny humans Hulk is very woke.” Just have to get him before he sees any Pixar movies; not sure what the mature, conflicting emotions views would do to him. Though his take on Inside Out would be interesting. e: cant cook creole bream posted:Honestly, The Hulk was always my least favorite hero. Dumb strength from raging out is the worst power and it's certainly an unhealthy thing to strife for. When the big backstory point was Bruce’s abuse at the hands of his father, the Hulk becomes a strong metaphor about how difficult it is to break the ingrained cycle of violence as preferred form of expressing dislike/disappointment/pain/etc., in spite of the victim/victimizer’s strongest and best efforts — and in spite of his realization that he acts this way. But I’m not sure how much of that thinking actually made it into the comic books. Apropos of nothing, Hulk could fill a (much larger and threatening) Ghost Rider-like niche in the world. He’s rarely seen. But if you do something so very catastrophically evil or heinous, you awaken his rage (building as he sees more of your atrocities) as he directs his hate-filled rage toward you. Sort of an extension of World War Hulk, but, you know, good. (I exclude the Herc books from my description of World War Hulk as bad.) Admiralty Flag fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Jul 1, 2018 |
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cant cook creole bream posted:Honestly, The Hulk was always my least favorite hero. Dumb strength from raging out is the worst power and it's certainly an unhealthy thing to strife for. Hulk isn't a hero, he's a metaphor for man's inability to find happiness within or without human society.
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Whatever happened to Strongguy? The mutant who the more he used his powers the stronger he got, but the dumber he got?
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Infinitum posted:Whatever happened to Strongguy? The mutant who the more he used his powers the stronger he got, but the dumber he got? He died and got resurrected without a soul and I think he took over part of a hell dimension? Although that power description sounds like Beast during the X-Factor days. He wasn't furry, and had the muscle/brain problem happening.
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He's a supporting character in the multiple man mini that started this week
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He’s also in an awful, awful New Mutants mini that is three issues in.
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That made me think of Maul from the Wildcats, who also got dumber as he got bigger and stronger, but could also shrink himself into a little, wizened old man to become a scientific genius.
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Infinitum posted:Whatever happened to Strongguy? The mutant who the more he used his powers the stronger he got, but the dumber he got? Strong Guy didn't get dumber (though admittedly, he was never very bright, having debuted as Lila Cheney's bodyguard), but he had a heart condition, so if he kept absorbing kinetic energy (which is what charged his powers) eventually his heart would explode.
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:That made me think of Maul from the Wildcats, who also got dumber as he got bigger and stronger, but could also shrink himself into a little, wizened old man to become a scientific genius. I was going to say, I wondered if the OP was confused with Maul as they're very similar characters. Hulk being toxic masculinity is explicit in Ultimates, where he openly lusts after Betty Ross, has eaten several supervillains, and once destroyed half an alien battle fleet after Captain America told him that said battle fleet had called him a pouf.
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