Tumble posted:

It's still retarded advice though because getting healthy is about changing your relationship with food entirely, not saying "actually just count calories and still eat garbage"

If you're trying to lose a few vanity pounds just so you can look better for the summer then you don't have as much of a problem that you need to change. If you are 75+ pounds overweight then you need to be eating healthier and exercising and that won't happen if major changes aren't made.

Nobody that's 250+ pounds is going to be able to control themselves by eating "the right amount" of McDonald's, they need to reboot their habits and eat some healthy filling salads regularly. And I don't mean just lettuce, I mean like some nice grilled chicken thighs, some crumbled blue cheese, some bacon... you can eat tasty things and loose weight, but you need to be aware of your diet goals and try to satiate yourself in a way that will allow you to stay on track with your goals.

"Calories in, calories out" is treated as gospel but it's incomplete advice and that's just as harmful as inaccurate advice. There is a LOT of evidence now showing that certain kinds of diets work better than others, it is not as simple as CICO anymore.

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2012/06/when-a-calorie-is-not-just-a-calorie/

Blaise330 posted:

If you're going to weigh yourself every single day, which is something I don't recommend but I can't outright say its wrong to, please keep your emotions in check. You're going to randomly be up like 4 or more pounds sometimes and the urge to freak out is strong. Don't worry, you didn't literally grow back your fat in a day.

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Volunteers were given access to the machine and allowed to consume as much of the liquid diet as they wanted but no other food...
The researchers first fed two lean people using the machine--one for sixteen days and the other for nine. Without requiring any guidance, both lean volunteers consumed their typical calorie intake and maintained a stable weight during this period. Next, the researchers did the same experiment with two "grossly obese" volunteers weighing approximately four hundred pounds [lol only 400] Again, they were asked to "obtain food from the machine whenever hungry." Over the course of the first eighteen days, the first (male) volunteer consumed a meager 275 calories per day--less than 10 percent of his usual calorie intake. The second (female) volunteer consumed a ridiculously low 144 calories per day over the course of twelve days, losing twenty-three pounds. The investigators remarked that an additional three volunteers with obesity "showed a similar inhibition of calorie intake when fed by machines."

The first volunteer continued eating bland food from the machine for a total of seventy days, losing approximately seventy pounds. After that, he was sent home with the formula and instructed to drink 400 calories of it per day, which he did for an additional 185 days, after which he had lost two hundred pounds--precisely half his body weight. The researchers remarked that "during this time weight was steadily lost and the patient never complained of hunger."

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In 2010, Chris Voigt, the director of the Washington State Potato Commission, decided to eat nothing bu potatoes and a small amount of cooking oil for sixty days. Voigt was protesting a decision by the federal Women, Infants, and Children food assistance program to remove potatoes from the list of vegetables it will pay for. Voigt contended, correctly, that potatoes are actually quite nutritious--in fact, one of the few foods that provide a broad enough complement of nutrients to sustain a human in good health for months at a time.* He documented his journey on a Web site titled 20 Potatoes a Day, which refers to the number of potatoes he would have to eat in order to maintain his weight. Voigt signed himself up for two months of a starchy, bland, repetitive diet.

Despite Voigt's goal not to lose weight, the pounds melted off. He lost twenty-one pounds over the sixty-day period, much of it from his waistline. According to physical examinations before and after, his blood glucose, blood pressure, and cholesterol levels improved considerably. He had trouble eating enough to meet his energy needs because he simply wasn't hungry. While we may be tempted to question the veracity of a person whose job involves promoting potatoes, Voigt's experiment triggered an avalanche of Internet copycats who used the "potato diet" for rapid weight loss. Although anecdotal, their reports suggest that eating this bland, repetitive diet does indeed reduce spontaneous calorie intake without provoking hunger.**

* The main nutritional limitation of potatoes is their lack of vitamins A and B12. Night blindness due to vitamin A deficiency was common among the poor in Ireland immediately prior to the potato famine. However, the liver stores vitamins A and B12 in large quantity, so we can survive without them for a few months at a time.
** Potatoes are one of the most quickly digested starches, meaning they raise blood sugar quickly and therefore have a high glycemic index. The effectiveness of the potato diet for fat loss is hard to reconcile with the popular belief that swings in blood glucose caused by eating quickly digested starchy foods are a major cause of hunger and overeating. Despite its pervasiveness in the scientific literatur and the popular media, this idea has never had much compelling evidence to support it.

A Spider Covets posted:

In the end though, everyone is different and different strategies are going to work for different people. If what you're doing works, you're healthy and you're losing weight, it can't be all that bad, unless your doctor says otherwise and your insane diet has given you Cancer 2, the sequel to cancer.

nooneofconsequence posted:

Aspartame tastes disgusting to me. Give me that sweet, sweet sucralose.

Piggy Smalls posted:

Just bought some cottage cheese. What can o do with it to make a meal.

Piggy Smalls posted:

Just bought some cottage cheese. What can o do with it to make a meal.

Knight posted:

add pepper

Piggy Smalls posted:

Just bought some cottage cheese. What can o do with it to make a meal.

CheesyDog posted:

bradzilla posted:

man that sounds really good

runupon cracker posted:

cottage cheese is amazingly good, but holy gently caress is it expensive

runupon cracker posted:

cottage cheese is amazingly good, but holy gently caress is it expensive

nooneofconsequence posted:

make your own

Haifisch posted:

Tunicate posted:

It's a bit washed out. Let's apply a little HDR

Randaconda posted:

The General posted:

Good news, I have sworn off food forever.

A Spider Covets posted:

What the hell did he do to make it look like that?

Kak posted:

Eat everything in sight, lift heavy weights, get strong. Then add in conditioning and lose the fat fast.

Then eat like an adult

a hole-y ghost posted:

client posted:

i dont think ive ever seen the non-frogtech version. how does this happen?

Kak posted:

Eat everything in sight, lift heavy weights, get strong. Then add in conditioning and lose the fat fast.

Then eat like an adult

client posted:

i dont think ive ever seen the non-frogtech version. how does this happen?

Kak posted:

He ate nothing but chicken and rice tv dinners and didn't really lift at all except a poo poo load of shoulder shrugs apparently

Facebook Aunt posted:

PYF has the hot new weightloss plan.

Blaise330 posted:

It’s like I’m watching embryos being cloned