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Napoleon Bonaparty posted:I want to play Nomads next. Please suggest some nomads for me to play. 867 Khazaria. Reclaim Israel, raise the Third Temple, and restore God's Chosen to dominance.
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Napoleon Bonaparty posted:I want to play Nomads next. Please suggest some nomads for me to play. Best nomad is 769 Magyars. Hard start, easy finish. Pro-tip, get demoted to a Khan and then subjugate the Byzantine Empire. Instant title swap to a Tengri Basileus
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Jun 30, 2018 04:24
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Yabguids in 769 are fun. You aren't big enough to take the Khazars just yet, so push south and east until you're ready. When you're big enough to do a nomad invasion, go after the Abassids, and settle in or burn Persia. Either you're a feudal ruler in an incredibly rich kingdom, or you have literally tens of thousands of gold with only one holding to upgrade.
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Jun 30, 2018 04:51
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Hard mode for nomads is 769 Otuken. If you manage to not get steamrolled and build yourself into a true power your mongol culture allows you to eventually make your current ruler into the Khan of Khans and establish the Mongol Empire which loving owns. No, your dude doesn't get the vast power of mongol event troops. But there's something extremely awesome about dominating the steppes and eventually having a young, strong ruler go "I'M GENGHIS loving KHAN,. BITCH!"
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Jun 30, 2018 05:25
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binge crotching posted:Best nomad is 769 Magyars. Hard start, easy finish. Pro-tip, get demoted to a Khan and then subjugate the Byzantine Empire. Instant title swap to a Tengri Basileus I think they stopped letting Khans subjugate higher tiers. You've got to get a proper claim on it via marriage or kidnapped princesses now.
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Jun 30, 2018 08:47
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The key thing about horse nomads is that they're very fluid, power-wise - yesterday's master of the steppes can be today's rebel on the run, and a minor khan can go from vulture picking away at isolated territories to Scourge of Western Civilization very quickly. If you can build up momentum and preserve the integrity of your personal horde (don't send it into close battles unless you've a really good reason to do so) you can really explode onto the map wherever you start. One big humiliating defeat, though, and you can find yourself fighting for your very survival.
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Jun 30, 2018 09:43
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In my Ironman game, 769 start Ireland, I'm in the mid-1200's. My 11 year old devil-child queen survived the black death. The Aztec Empire has been wiped out by the Catholic Mongol Empire. I inherited Germany for some reason. I love this game and only want to play Ironman from now on.
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Jun 30, 2018 12:56
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Ironman is absolutely the way to go. Before I'd always save before a war just in case things went sideways, but now I have to live with it and it makes the game a whole lot more engaging.
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Jun 30, 2018 13:34
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Honky Dong Country posted:Hard mode for nomads is 769 Otuken. If you manage to not get steamrolled and build yourself into a true power your mongol culture allows you to eventually make your current ruler into the Khan of Khans and establish the Mongol Empire which loving owns. No, your dude doesn't get the vast power of mongol event troops. But there's something extremely awesome about dominating the steppes and eventually having a young, strong ruler go "I'M GENGHIS loving KHAN,. BITCH!" Then the real Genghis loving Khan shows up and makes you his bitch. I think I may be done with my Zunbil run, everything is too spread out to effectively manage now. Might mess about with something stupid like 769 Socotra for a bit.
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Jun 30, 2018 14:24
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Edison was a dick posted:I think they stopped letting Khans subjugate higher tiers. Dang, I guess it's been a little while since I've tried don't it
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Jun 30, 2018 14:34
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Jedit posted:Then the real Genghis loving Khan shows up and makes you his bitch. Negative. If you form the Mongol Empire yourself they never show up.
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Jun 30, 2018 18:31
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Xia are a real fun start in 1066, the eastern edge of the map owns bones now
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Jun 30, 2018 19:37
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Oh yeah, I bet there's a ton of stupidity you could accomplish as a horde with china as a part of the game now. Can hordes settle as monastic feudal now?
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Jun 30, 2018 20:55
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Napoleon Bonaparty posted:Oh yeah, I bet there's a ton of stupidity you could accomplish as a horde with china as a part of the game now. Can hordes settle as monastic feudal now? Monastic feudal requires a Tibetan culture and either Bön or Buddhism as religion. I don't think there's any horde that starts with the right culture, but it's just a matter of converting to your local culture. Once you have the religion/culture combination, you will automatically become monastic feudal provided you're not playing a merchant republic, horde or tribe.
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Jun 30, 2018 21:46
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Torrannor posted:Monastic feudal requires a Tibetan culture and either Bön or Buddhism as religion. I don't think there's any horde that starts with the right culture, but it's just a matter of converting to your local culture. Once you have the religion/culture combination, you will automatically become monastic feudal provided you're not playing a merchant republic, horde or tribe. Hordes can't change culture iirc, so there's always going to be a time between taking over and converting culture (that requires the India expansion) that the unique buildings will vanish.
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Jun 30, 2018 22:06
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Minor annoyance: six years and a dozen expansions in and they still haven't figured out how to be consistent with 'you' versus 'I' in event text. Hire me for the Crusader Kings III style guide, Paradox 
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Jun 30, 2018 23:57
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CascadeBeta posted:So as someone who's never ventured outside of Christiandom/Paganism, what's an interesting (not ball crushingly hard) start? The guys who start with Mecca and Medina under the Sunni Caliph but are Shi’a. Hashimids at 867 I think? Either be a loyal but powerful vassal or break off and proclaim your own caliphate.
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Jul 1, 2018 06:52
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Moving troops around the Arabian peninsula is a pain, however.
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Jul 1, 2018 11:10
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Guys, give me things to inspire me to finish my Roman Empire game so I can get the 867-End achievment and maybe SPQR before the new expansion hits.
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Jul 1, 2018 12:35
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Honestly I think the SPQR achievement should be your inspiration. It's pretty drat rad to raise the Byzantines out of their slow death clean into the full blown glory of the old Roman Empire. I mean drat they made the Med into their millpond.
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Jul 1, 2018 18:37
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It is a bit crazy to think that in the days of the height of the Roman Empire you could walk (and slight ship rides) from the north of England to the coast of China and basically only walk through four countries- Rome, Persia, India, and China. Even in this day and age you can move faster but deal with more borders.
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Jul 1, 2018 19:22
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How do I fight the western protectorate? I'm trying to get the White Hun achievement bu shipping all of my troops to the himalayas is impossible and they just siege down all my holdings and instantly get 100 warscore. Should I just like, give literally everything but my personal demesne to a single viceroy so i can just summon my entire army in the himalayas?
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Jul 1, 2018 23:47
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LUUk6wVNrY
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Jul 1, 2018 23:51
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Honky Dong Country posted:Honestly I think the SPQR achievement should be your inspiration. It's pretty drat rad to raise the Byzantines out of their slow death clean into the full blown glory of the old Roman Empire. I mean drat they made the Med into their millpond. It should be but like... there's so much to conquer... Going from memory, I still need to eat a good 80% of Iberia, nearly all of england, the loving balkans which are mostly untied under a Hungarian empire (I think), and then all sorts of bits and pieces spread over africa and the middle east. All those little conquests take forever when you've got near max threat at all times, and your council is being dumb and not letting you go to war when you're already at war, even though both wars are against rebelling states and thus are piss easy.
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Jul 1, 2018 23:52
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Sky Shadowing posted:It is a bit crazy to think that in the days of the height of the Roman Empire you could walk (and slight ship rides) from the north of England to the coast of China and basically only walk through four countries- Rome, Persia, India, and China. Related fun fact: at the height of the Mongolian Empire you could start at the Mediterranean Sea and walk to the Pacific Ocean without ever leaving the empire.
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Jul 2, 2018 00:09
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chinese troops being immune to attrition makes me so angry
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Jul 2, 2018 00:19
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ShootaBoy posted:It should be but like... there's so much to conquer... Going from memory, I still need to eat a good 80% of Iberia, nearly all of england, the loving balkans which are mostly untied under a Hungarian empire (I think), and then all sorts of bits and pieces spread over africa and the middle east. Max threat isn't that big a deal if you're a powerful enough realm. If you're prepared for it, you can sweep up a lot of the coalition troops before they can unite into a few doomstacks. If your council is being dumb, take some time to clear out any remotely hostile vassals and stack the council with content loyalists instead.
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Jul 2, 2018 00:25
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Goddamnit, I just owned myself by pushing my half brother's claim instead of my own. His portrait is identical to mine.
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Jul 2, 2018 00:46
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Main Paineframe posted:Max threat isn't that big a deal if you're a powerful enough realm. If you're prepared for it, you can sweep up a lot of the coalition troops before they can unite into a few doomstacks. It's also easy to blitz somebody with only a couple provinces before the coalition can get it together.
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Jul 2, 2018 00:56
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Main Paineframe posted:Max threat isn't that big a deal if you're a powerful enough realm. If you're prepared for it, you can sweep up a lot of the coalition troops before they can unite into a few doomstacks. Can't really sit down and do a full purge and re arraignment of viceroyalities, sadly. I'm at the point where I have to stock my council with nothing but kings to keep them from getting overly pissy. They're still useful because I tend to raise their heirs myself, but I just don't have the time to get into the massive civil war I'd need to have to, for example, clean up France and get it under an actual Greek.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Related fun fact: at the height of the Mongolian Empire you could start at the Mediterranean Sea and walk to the Pacific Ocean without ever leaving the empire. Yep! To this day the Mongols had the largest contiguous land empire in human history. I think Alexander was behind them, then the Romans. I could be wrong though and would absolutely welcome correction if that's the case!
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Jul 2, 2018 02:08
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Honky Dong Country posted:Yep! To this day the Mongols had the largest contiguous land empire in human history. I think Alexander was behind them, then the Romans. I could be wrong though and would absolutely welcome correction if that's the case! I think the Russians had Alexander and the Romans beat.
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Jul 2, 2018 04:38
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Is it better to have two counties (in the same duchy) with ten castles, or ten castles spread across ten counties? My first instinct would be to go with the latter because it means you also get ten churches and ten+ cities providing you revenue, but I wouldn't be surprised in the least if there're some arcane mechanics at play that make this a less than ideal setup.
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Jul 2, 2018 11:20
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You def want as many castles in your capital as possible since they get a bonus to their levies. Beyond that it doesn't matter. A castle is a castle is a castle.
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Jul 2, 2018 11:21
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And a castle as the capital of a county is more powerless barons to give you levies and fewer in the hands of problematic vassals.
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Jul 2, 2018 11:44
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I’m trying my first game ever and playing in Ireland. I just reformed to Tanistry, with a 1066 start. Am I hosed? Should’ve gone another way, I take it, but I guess 10 years of random rule is going to be fun.
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Jul 2, 2018 12:06
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Edison was a dick posted:And a castle as the capital of a county is more powerless barons to give you levies and fewer in the hands of problematic vassals. I should've been more specific. In the scenario I outlined, I own all the castles, there aren't any vassal barons. All of Ireland except the duchy of Desmond is in my personal demesne (Desmond I gave to a vassal bishop because most of my rulers peter out at ~10 for personal demesne size). I totally forgot about the capital levy bonus, so thanks to the person above who mentioned it.
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Jul 2, 2018 12:12
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I'm nearing the end of my Ireland-Germany game and thinking about converting to EU4. As far as diplomatic relationships and threat level are concerned, what carries over? Should I press my claim on the rest of England and Scotland to wrap up my game?
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Jul 2, 2018 13:00
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Dirk Pitt posted:I’m trying my first game ever and playing in Ireland. I just reformed to Tanistry, with a 1066 start. Am I hosed? Should’ve gone another way, I take it, but I guess 10 years of random rule is going to be fun. Tanistry is fine. It's better than gavelkind, since it gives all your holdings to one heir in your dynasty. It'll probably be some older cousin or uncle, but it'll be fine. Edit and a bad heir isn't the end of the world. Assuming you aren't trying for a specific achievement, losing and regaining land and then going on your revenge tour part of the loop. I am hella PEEVED fucked around with this message at 13:47 on Jul 2, 2018 |
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I am hella PEEVED posted:Tanistry is fine. It's better than gavelkind, since it gives all your holdings to one heir in your dynasty. It'll probably be some older cousin or uncle, but it'll be fine. Cool, is there any point in doing a plot to kill the Tanist if I don’t like the pick?
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