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The only theory I really, really wanted to believe was if somehow Rey were a descendant of Palpatine. Which would have actually fit in with the way things were set up in the Aftermath books with the vaults and Operation... Cinder? Was that it? The Emperors contingency plan. Either way, I thought that would be cool 
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Episode 9 is in this weird position where the only new interesting character they really have is Kylo Ren and everybody knows it, yet you have to invent some kind of satisfactory arc for Rey and whatever the hell they're doing with Finn after they've spent all of TLJ spinning wheels. And now they'll have zero OT characters to rely on.
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Jul 1, 2018 17:28
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I just want Force Ghost Luke chasing Ben Solo around banging pots and pans together while reading off some of Yoda's long boring lectures to him as he's trying to sleep
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Jul 1, 2018 17:39
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aBagorn posted:I was completely exhausted at this panel and like half falling asleep once I sat down. Not so much "like" but "because I am", I gather.
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Jul 1, 2018 18:08
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Not so much "like" but "because I am", I gather. I mean, I legally haven’t been a child for over a decade and a half, but sure I guess. I have a connection to my inner child and can get excited about things
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Jul 1, 2018 19:13
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exquisite tea posted:Episode 9 is in this weird position where the only new interesting character they really have is Kylo Ren and everybody knows it, yet you have to invent some kind of satisfactory arc for Rey and whatever the hell they're doing with Finn after they've spent all of TLJ spinning wheels. And now they'll have zero OT characters to rely on. Someone made a good point that while Kylo is a good character he's not a good head villain. He's spent two movies getting clowned on by the hero and the very character traits that make him such a good character make him unintimidating to the audience as a threat. But every other villain except comic-relief Hux is dead so they have no good "final boss" for Rey to face. Is anyone really going to feel like she's in danger when she's made a fool out of him every movie so far? I'd disagree he's the only interesting character though. I legitimately like Finn and thought he had a good arc going in TFA. It's kind of a bummer they had him forget it and repeat it verbatim in TLJ but he still has stuff you could build off of, unlike non-entity Poe and Blandly inoffensive Rey.
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Jul 2, 2018 00:29
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I like how all of you think that the 3rd movie is going to resolve anything instead of just setting up endless sequels. You can't make more money from Rey and Co. if their story is over.
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Jul 2, 2018 00:33
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Poe and Finn were both likable in star wars 7 but I think their plots in star wars 8 were so insipid as to kind of ruin the characters for a lot of people going forward. Cheers
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Jul 2, 2018 00:56
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No Mods No Masters posted:Poe and Finn were both likable in star wars 7 but I think their plots in star wars 8 were so insipid as to kind of ruin the characters for a lot of people going forward. Cheers Should've stuck with the Bromance angle and had Poe and Finn go to Canto Bight and do something more meaningful than free animals Or skip straight to infiltrating the Supremacy with Finn's stormtrooper codes Because why would they revoke them? :V
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Jul 2, 2018 01:30
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I think they really missed an opportunity in TLJ with Finn's Imperial past. Instead of a pointless casino detour they could have explored something like learning how to live like a "real person" instead of an indoctrinated flesh robot or maybe given him some arc about seeing the Stormtroopers as victims of the First Order who need to be saved from it just as much as everyone else.They almost did something like the latter in the alternate Phasma showdown on the DVD/Blu-Ray but A, Thats not the scene that actually was used in the movie and B, Even if they had used it it's only a single scene that no other part of the movie before or after references, builds on, or shares themes with.
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Jul 2, 2018 01:51
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SimonCat posted:I like how all of you think that the 3rd movie is going to resolve anything instead of just setting up endless sequels. You can't make more money from Rey and Co. if their story is over. The story seems so incomplete and the characters so underdeveloped going into IX that if they decided to keep going forward Marvel style it wouldn't be surprising and may even be ideal. I'd be fine with it as for all the mistakes I think they made, I'd still like to see it finish cooking even if it takes more time.
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Jul 2, 2018 01:58
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Dishwasher posted:The story seems so incomplete and the characters so underdeveloped going into IX that if they decided to keep going forward Marvel style it wouldn't be surprising and may even be ideal. I'd be fine with it as for all the mistakes I think they made, I'd still like to see it finish cooking even if it takes more time. I can't be the only one to notice the distinct lack of "Episode 7" and "Episode 8" on any merchandise, or even mentioned anywhere after the official titles were announced (in direct contrast to the prequels). They don't want to keep reminding people of how many of the things there are, and if they abandon the numbers entirely after 9 then it would make it that much easier to just poo poo them out from now until forever.
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Jul 2, 2018 05:45
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Beef Hardcheese posted:I can't be the only one to notice the distinct lack of "Episode 7" and "Episode 8" on any merchandise, or even mentioned anywhere after the official titles were announced (in direct contrast to the prequels). They don't want to keep reminding people of how many of the things there are, and if they abandon the numbers entirely after 9 then it would make it that much easier to just poo poo them out from now until forever. im feel like this happened with the prequels? episode 1 is the only one i refer to by numerical the others are aotc and rots and i honestly dont recall them being referred to by their numericals on toys and advertisements.
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Jul 2, 2018 06:32
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Jerkface posted:im feel like this happened with the prequels? episode 1 is the only one i refer to by numerical the others are aotc and rots and i honestly dont recall them being referred to by their numericals on toys and advertisements. While you're right it wasn't as prominent as putting "Episode I" on everything but it was definitely all over EPII&III merch. Even just the official logos plastered on everything had the episode number on it. Compared to that it definitely feels like they're trying to make everyone forget about the whole "Episode" thing. But on the other hand they put the "Star Wars Story" moniker on the other movies which kind of implies the episode moniker for TFA/TLJ by default so maybe its something else like marketing said the episode numbering was too long for the packaging?
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Jul 2, 2018 09:15
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Jerkface posted:im feel like this happened with the prequels? episode 1 is the only one i refer to by numerical the others are aotc and rots and i honestly dont recall them being referred to by their numericals on toys and advertisements. The episode number definitely had emphasis at the time. Everyone talked about them using the number until their "real" title was revealed some time before release. 
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Jul 2, 2018 11:45
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Mooey Cow posted:The episode number definitely had emphasis at the time. Everyone talked about them using the number until their "real" title was revealed some time before release. yea on the poster and before release of the name for sure im talking about after on the merch and how it was discussed by fans. even on these here forums im pretty sure they get referred to more as their titles. also lol does anyone remember when they revealed aotc title and everyone was like uhhhhhhhhhjnnhhhhhh
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Jul 2, 2018 12:59
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Jerkface posted:also lol does anyone remember when they revealed aotc title and everyone was like uhhhhhhhhhjnnhhhhhh There's even video evidence for some of them.
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Jul 2, 2018 13:02
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Dishwasher posted:The story seems so incomplete and the characters so underdeveloped going into IX that if they decided to keep going forward Marvel style it wouldn't be surprising and may even be ideal. I'd be fine with it as for all the mistakes I think they made, I'd still like to see it finish cooking even if it takes more time. You are fine with paying $40-60 and 8 hours of your life for an incomplete story? Are you representative of average Star Wars fans?
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Jul 2, 2018 13:08
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what's funny about "attack of the clones"? this is a genuine question, i really don't get what's wrong with it.
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Jul 2, 2018 14:07
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cargohills posted:what's funny about "attack of the clones"? this is a genuine question, i really don't get what's wrong with it. All the main series Star Wars movies have 40s serial style subtitles but "Attack of the Clones" is probably both the most on the nose of all of them, as well as being so completely lacking in any sort of pomp so as to lose whatever sort of dignity the other titles somehow conveyed, coming across almost as camp.
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Jul 2, 2018 14:14
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cargohills posted:what's funny about "attack of the clones"? this is a genuine question, i really don't get what's wrong with it. Empire Strikes Back is also a dorky title, but it's evocative in that it indicates a film where our heroes are in a more precarious situation.
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Jul 2, 2018 14:16
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tino posted:You are fine with paying $40-60 and 8 hours of your life for an incomplete story? Are you representative of average Star Wars fans? I'm fine with an additional $40-60 and 8 hours for a 'complete' story if it comes to that. I'm "not" pleased that this current trilogy seems to lack so much, even a reason to exist, going into the last one. I'd feel even better if the main story switched to a TV show format so there'd be more time if that's what they need. Representative? I wouldn't say that. But franchises and Disney Pixar movies are the only films making real guaranteed money at the theater nowadays and it's the only series I'm willing to go to a theater for. I won't boycott unless it becomes dumpster trash (it's close...) because I'm a total whore. Once its all over (  ) theaters will likely never see me again and are free to gently caress off to the dustbin of history.
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Jul 2, 2018 14:46
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Jerkface posted:yea on the poster and before release of the name for sure im talking about after on the merch and how it was discussed by fans. even on these here forums im pretty sure they get referred to more as their titles. The merch I don't know too much about, but a lot of the AotC logos have a big ol "II" behind the Star Wars logo. quote:also lol does anyone remember when they revealed aotc title and everyone was like uhhhhhhhhhjnnhhhhhh
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Jul 2, 2018 15:02
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The prequels had their episode numbers very prominently displayed, but I don't think I recall the same being true for the OT movies, at least when I was little (i.e. the late 90s/early 00s). My dad had the OT movies on video and they didn't say "Episode IV/V/VI" on the covers, but I got TPM on video and the "Episode I" was at least as prominent as the subtitle.
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Jul 2, 2018 15:18
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The posters for the PT all have small star wars, big episode numerical, followed by smaller subtitle. The OT all had Big subtitle, no numerical. The ST follows the OT stylization but with a much more prominently displayed "Star Wars". I don't think its really evidence that Disney is trying to lose the "episodes" rather than hew closer to the OT styling of poster. I did like all the PT posters though.
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Jul 2, 2018 15:30
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As prequels, I feel like focusing on the the number was only practical. For low info consumers, it tells you straight up what you are getting. I was deployed when the Matrix sequels came out and caught the second movie on a bootleg DVD and was totally surprised when it ended with a to be continued because the last I had heard the Matrix movies where going to be one sequel and one prequel .
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Jul 2, 2018 15:32
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Jerkface posted:I did like all the PT posters though. They are good posters. They really get across that "classic Hollywood" theme Lucas was going for. It is a shame big movies get boring photoshops with floating heads instead of nice painted posters. Wheat Loaf fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Jul 2, 2018 |
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Jul 2, 2018 15:57
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cargohills posted:what's funny about "attack of the clones"? this is a genuine question, i really don't get what's wrong with it. It's because Clones sounds like Clowns and also, like Timeless Appeal notes, an intentional homage to cheesy 50's sci-fi movies.
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Jul 2, 2018 20:16
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Attack of the Clones is such a cool title i've been going months at a time just kinda repeating it in my head. It evokes a hell of a lot more imagination than "force awakens" "last jedi"
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Jul 2, 2018 21:19
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwL8wlBMflA
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Jul 2, 2018 21:34
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The movie titles are no big deal. They're all fine.
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Jul 2, 2018 21:38
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The Force Awakens is still a bad clunky not star warsy title.
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Jul 4, 2018 09:03
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tino posted:You are fine with paying $40-60 and 8 hours of your life for an incomplete story? Are you representative of average Star Wars fans? Oh my yes
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Jul 5, 2018 23:18
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Wheat Loaf posted:The movie titles are no big deal. They're all fine. I think Attack of the Clones was the only time one was subject to wide ridicule, even it's not particularly bad. There was a lot of disappointment though that the title was Attack of the Clones and then the clone wars kind of don't really get underway until the movie's climax. A common sentiment I remember was that Attack of the Clones should have been episode 1.
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Jul 5, 2018 23:51
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Neo Rasa posted:A common sentiment I remember was that Attack of the Clones should have been episode 1. That was in vogue during the short period of time after the movies release where people were looking for every reason they could find to like the movie. All the prequels, even the first had a period where people tried really really hard to like them.
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Jul 5, 2018 23:58
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Neo Rasa posted:I think Attack of the Clones was the only time one was subject to wide ridicule, even it's not particularly bad. There was a lot of disappointment though that the title was Attack of the Clones and then the clone wars kind of don't really get underway until the movie's climax. A common sentiment I remember was that Attack of the Clones should have been episode 1. Fair enough. I was 11 when it came out so I suppose I wasn't terribly discerning about titles.
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Jul 6, 2018 00:06
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I vaguely recall a rumour that Disney was looking into rebooting the prequels as a tv series. Does anybody know what I'm talking about/have any links?
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Jul 6, 2018 00:34
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There's a tv series happening, which is going to be produced by Jon Favreau, but it's supposed to be set between ROTJ and TFA. I think the idea that Disney is going to redo the prequel trilogy has been making the rounds since they bought the company. I don't really see it happening, though.
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I think it's inevitable, especially given how little Disney refers to them except in the broadest possible strokes. That, and they introduced time travel into the canon.
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