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Group selffound is coming but it's going to be in the context of the custom league framework they've been teasing for years and will almost certainly require payment due to server resources involved.
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Awesome! posted:its just a normal diablo 2 style inventory. you can win races to 100 with the 4 free tabs they give you. i like it way more than grim dawn's inventory which has like 4 tiny inventories you have to manage separately and i believe less stash space than you start poe with by default. I think you've completely missed the point, my objection isn't to the inventory tetris per se¹, it's to the fact that there's a dozen different currencies that are "equivalent" in that you can convert between them, but are all used for different things and used as crafting ingredients and don't stack with each other, and if you want a UI that handles that for you rather than just filling your main inventory with currency/crafting stacks, that's another $10 (and doesn't even save you from having to manually convert between them to make purchases). At least Guild Wars gives you the crafting tabs for free and only charges you if you want to stockpile huge amounts. Like, the "a bunch of different crafting materials are also used as money" design is kind of interesting in theory, but really awkward in practice, and one of the main things that turned me off PoE, and the lovely UI for managing that is just the icing on the cake. It's like they looked at what a pain managing runes was in D2 and went "with an additional 15 years of industry experience to draw on, how can we make this suck even more?" ¹ Although as others have pointed out, inventory tetris interacts poorly with the giant explosions of loot that PoE has.
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Jul 1, 2018 14:20
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Most of the things you're thinking of as loot are just ammo for certain skills that happens to be full featured items for the one guy who might need them for his snowflake build. You're also making currency out to be far more complicated than it is. 99% of the time you'll be buying items priced in exalts or chaos unless you desperately need something cheaper than that for a build and can't find one in gstash. And more often than not people aren't going to complain if you try to pay them in something else (especially scours, alchs and vaals, everyone needs those) at a reasonable exchange rate. The game got along fine for years without any special handling for currency. The only real difference being that there is more incentive to cash in your penny jar when you don't have a currency tab to enable your hoarding. Or using it up trying to make that fancy sword you're too scared of pubbies to trade for.
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Jul 1, 2018 14:39
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ToxicFrog posted:I think you've completely missed the point, my objection isn't to the inventory tetris per se¹, it's to the fact that there's a dozen different currencies that are "equivalent" in that you can convert between them the default stash space in guild wars was loving tiny and i felt very pressured in that game to buy more space very quickly with all the cosmetic poo poo they gave you. and that was after spending $60 on the base game. Johnny Joestar posted:grim dawn also has that function, for what it's worth Awesome! fucked around with this message at 15:17 on Jul 1, 2018 |
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Jul 1, 2018 15:15
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To be fair, Grim Dawn doesn't really NEED that level of item filtering since it's more of a classic ARPG style where once you're fully decked out in greens you never need to see a white ever again, and so on. PoE actually does require it due to its whole weird crafting/selling system for stuff.
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Jul 1, 2018 16:43
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grim dawn makes it so you don't have to care about a gigantic heap of complete garbage so you really, absolutely don't need anything more complex than 'stop showing me the vendor fodder'
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Jul 1, 2018 16:47
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Infinity Gaia posted:To be fair, Grim Dawn doesn't really NEED that level of item filtering since it's more of a classic ARPG style where once you're fully decked out in greens you never need to see a white ever again, and so on. PoE actually does require it due to its whole weird crafting/selling system for stuff.
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Jul 1, 2018 16:56
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Awesome! posted:yeah, its cool that poe doesnt invalidate the entirety of rare gear with uniques. thats one thing i love. It still invalidates MOST of it though. Whites are only used for crafting purposes and blues are just... Not used, basically. I actually kind of dislike the focus on good rares in PoE as well. I WANT to use a lot of cool weird game changing equipment, but I can't because I need a boring solid statline. It's telling that most PoE builds only use 1 or 2 uniques.
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Jul 1, 2018 17:17
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ExiledTinkerer posted:Bear in mind that PoE recently got semi-gobbled by Tencent so...the future and MMO trappings are at once both hazier and more resource laden with potential than before. When has Tencent ever ruined a property that they picked up? They are pretty consistent about having a hands off policy when it comes to their Western properties.
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Jul 1, 2018 17:27
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Infinity Gaia posted:It still invalidates MOST of it though. Whites are only used for crafting purposes and blues are just... Not used, basically. we can talk about how the game basically requires you to stack tons of life if you want to not die all the time though. it can be a little frustrating at times. i think its probably necessary so there is some tradeoff for wearing a bunch of mf gear or whatever.
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Jul 1, 2018 17:52
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I absolutely adore poe and have played it to death, but it doesn’t feel great to play. Cyclone is my favorite skill because it’s one of the few that doesn’t lock you in place, and it still has a wonky implementation that takes a while to get used to.
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Jul 1, 2018 22:06
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Synthetik is pretty cool
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Jul 1, 2018 22:42
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Yeah I think it’s great. I got a win the other day at 155% difficulty and I just want to go higher and higher, it owns.
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Jul 1, 2018 22:57
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RyokoTK posted:Yeah I think it’s great. I got a win the other day at 155% difficulty and I just want to go higher and higher, it owns. I've cleared the first boss twice and reached the second boss once 
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Jul 1, 2018 23:01
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It did take a lot of grinding to get my first win... and the metaprogression does make a slight but distinct difference.
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Jul 1, 2018 23:09
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RyokoTK posted:It did take a lot of grinding to get my first win... and the metaprogression does make a slight but distinct difference. I can see that. It's really interesting sorting out which weapons are good at what.
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Jul 1, 2018 23:53
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Jester Mcgee posted:I absolutely adore poe and have played it to death, but it doesn’t feel great to play. Cyclone is my favorite skill because it’s one of the few that doesn’t lock you in place, and it still has a wonky implementation that takes a while to get used to. Captain Foo posted:Synthetik is pretty cool
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Jul 2, 2018 00:16
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Awesome! posted:have you played with it since they redid the pathing behavior a couple leagues ago? It came out like a few months ago, it's understandable that they don't want to discount it deeply immediately.
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Jul 2, 2018 00:42
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It's cheap and good, buy  
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Jul 2, 2018 00:54
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Awesome! posted:have you played with it since they redid the pathing behavior a couple leagues ago? it's ten bux?
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Jul 2, 2018 00:56
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Captain Foo posted:it's ten bux? i guess i dont really want it that much StrixNebulosa posted:It came out like a few months ago, it's understandable that they don't want to discount it deeply immediately.
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Jul 2, 2018 01:25
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Captain Foo posted:Synthetik is pretty cool
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Jul 2, 2018 03:20
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I am digging all the Samus avatars lately. Is there a particular reason for them beyond "the world needs more Metroid"?
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Jul 2, 2018 03:45
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:I am digging all the Samus avatars lately. Is there a particular reason for them beyond "the world needs more Metroid"? Something in the sgdq chat thread, there’s a lot of them there
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Jul 2, 2018 08:31
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Floodkiller posted:I picked it up as well, and it plays like a modern Crusader: No Remorse. Combat is quick and turns dirty fast, but you often get a lot of time between fights to plan your next attack. The shields on top of your health also help to give you a bit of leeway for mistakes without feeling like you are getting chipped away and death spiraling. Boss fights seemed a bit more brutal, but I don't think I have given it enough playtime yet to adjust to the pace shift when they occur. the Raptor is way more bullet-hell than I was expecting given the rest of the game up to that point.
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Jul 2, 2018 14:44
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I visited a video game museum in Japan today and one of their demo stations had the original Shiren the Wanderer up.
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Jul 2, 2018 15:06
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Captain Foo posted:the Raptor is way more bullet-hell than I was expecting given the rest of the game up to that point. Most of his bullet hell is just to force you to keep moving in a direction instead of sitting in a safe spot. He doesn't have much that forces you to actively weave except for the periodic missile barrage.
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Jul 2, 2018 15:48
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Kanos posted:Most of his bullet hell is just to force you to keep moving in a direction instead of sitting in a safe spot. He doesn't have much that forces you to actively weave except for the periodic missile barrage. It's one of the only times in the game I feel the need to rebind the eject/reload buttons; I hope support for mouse4/5 buttons comes soon!
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Jul 2, 2018 15:58
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You can bind eject and reload to the same button, by the way. I have both set to space and it helps a lot.
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Jul 2, 2018 16:07
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Cheaper Synthetik if you're on the fence, use code SUMMER18 for another 18% off.
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RyokoTK posted:You can bind eject and reload to the same button, by the way. I have both set to space and it helps a lot. I wasn't able to do this? It wouldn't let me bind it to the same button as the other was already assigned to
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Jul 2, 2018 16:39
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Captain Foo posted:I wasn't able to do this? It wouldn't let me bind it to the same button as the other was already assigned to
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That's odd. Does it work if you do it via the config file?TooMuchAbstraction posted:I am digging all the Samus avatars lately. Is there a particular reason for them beyond "the world needs more Metroid"? The SDGQ thread is perpetually horny.
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Jul 2, 2018 16:44
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Naar posted:You can do it if you set it in the alternate controls, for some reason. hm, I'll try that
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Jul 2, 2018 16:44
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Too Shy Guy posted:I visited a video game museum in Japan today and one of their demo stations had the original Shiren the Wanderer up. Should've used an old rear end crt!
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Jul 2, 2018 17:07
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Tangledeep is on sale at https://chrono.gg today!
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Jul 2, 2018 18:12
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The combat and traps in Unexplored seem incredibly super lethal, is there anything kinda obvious I might be missing, or do I just need to git gud?
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Jul 2, 2018 19:32
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It just takes practice, yes. For combat, try using a poke-y weapon like a spear; swingy weapons require much stricter timing. You pretty much have to be able to reliably kill melee guys without ever letting them hit you even once or you're screwed, and doing that with a short swingy weapon is a huge headache. I haven't played it recently enough to remember any salient tips about traps, but as I recall the really lethal ones are the ones that involve gas clouds; there's often a way to turn off the gas, and you can sometimes burn it off yourself from safety. Also remember you don't have to explore everything, and you can also do the standard roguelike cheese strat of ditching out and coming back later once you have more options.
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PMush Perfect posted:The combat and traps in Unexplored seem incredibly super lethal, is there anything kinda obvious I might be missing, or do I just need to git gud? Yeah, It’s mostly git gud, with some dungeons just being more brutal than others. Some tips:
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You can also throw weapons at stuff; carrying some spare daggers around is occasionally useful for enemies you don't want to get close to. Like those loving lizards.
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