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Montague Tigg
Mar 23, 2008

Previously, on "Ronnie Likes Data":

Code Jockey posted:

this is family guy.

wiggum is peter, and this is a family guy sketch.

ugh

someone should dub Peter's laugh in while he's zooming around in the sky

the lowest point of The Simpsons is/was Family Guy

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SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.



New Family Guy is better.

CodfishCartographer
Feb 23, 2010

Gadus Maprocephalus

Pillbug
I haven't seen a new Family Guy episode in years. I can't imagine how bad they must be nowadays.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
The original run of Family Guy was funny (well, I remember it being funny) but it never should've been revived.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

The original run of Family Guy was funny (well, I remember it being funny) but it never should've been revived.
It was unique and came about right when "Hey remember" nostalgia was getting its footing, so a lot of the callbacks, cutaways and humor was new.

It was also a way different era so poo poo like Quagmire talking about Roofie Coladas or the dog wanting to gently caress the mom were like roflol omg.

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.



CodfishCartographer posted:

I haven't seen a new Family Guy episode in years. I can't imagine how bad they must be nowadays.

They’re not great but I think they’ve been better than usual. Half the episodes this season were weird concept episodes.

SIDS Vicious
Jan 1, 1970


They are honestly just trying to offend everyone they can and it's kind of endearing

Ein cooler Typ
Nov 26, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
"Homer Badman" is one of the most beloved golden-era Simpsons episodes and that makes light of rape victims

the 90s TV was problematic all-around

Veni Vidi Ameche!
Nov 2, 2017

by Fluffdaddy
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the lowest point of The Simpsons is/was Family Guy
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That crossover episode is one of the worst things I have ever seen on television. It was absolutely terrible.

Hank Scorpio loving owns, though. I can’t believe anyone would say otherwise. You Only Move Twice is arguably the best episode the Simpsons ever did.

Ein cooler Typ
Nov 26, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
Matt Groening hated the The Critic crossover so much he took his name off the credits

I guess he liked the Family Guy crossover or he was too busy counting his money to care

SeANMcBAY
Jun 28, 2006

Look on the bright side.



I feel like they took some care to not portray Homer’s accuser as a crazy over the top feminist in that episode. She’s never really the butt of the joke.

It’s not perfect but it probably beats just about every other sitcom episode of that era that’s about someone being “wrongly” accused of sexual harassment.

Ein cooler Typ
Nov 26, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
yeah it's actually the media who are the bad guys

Razorwired
Dec 7, 2008

It's about to start!
Having the media turn on Moe for his voyeurism the second after his tape saves Homer was a good move in that regard.

Riptor
Apr 13, 2003

here's to feelin' good all the time

Razorwired posted:

Having the media turn on Moe for his voyeurism the second after his tape saves Homer was a good move in that regard.

It was willy. Rowdy Roddy Peeper

Also sweet SWEET can

Razorwired
Dec 7, 2008

It's about to start!

Riptor posted:

It was willy. Rowdy Roddy Peeper

Also sweet SWEET can

drat, this is my lowest Simpsons moment

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Hrist posted:

There's one a while back where Homer gets the tires rotated, and gets scammed a ton. And I think it's the one where they go to the super bowl and jail. I forget.

Tire rotation is a scam. Anyone who owns a car should know how to change a tire, and if you can change a tire you can rotate them in under an hour.

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon
The last time I watched New Family Guy, it was an episode that involved time travel and the token Jewish character. I think it had a lot of nazi references and not a single actual joke.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Zulily Zoetrope posted:

The last time I watched New Family Guy, it was an episode that involved time travel and the token Jewish character. I think it had a lot of nazi references and not a single actual joke.

So, it was the family guy equivalent of that one Brony image?

THE BAR
Oct 20, 2011

You know what might look better on your nose?

SeANMcBAY posted:

She’s never really the butt of the joke.

:haw:

Prurient Squid
Jul 21, 2008

Tiddy cat Buddha improving your day.
I voted other. My choice is "Homer getting raped by a panda". Quite possibly this is biased by the fact that I stopped watching around about that time so in my mind there was no room for it to get worse.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Veni Vidi Ameche! posted:

That crossover episode is one of the worst things I have ever seen on television. It was absolutely terrible.

Hank Scorpio loving owns, though. I can’t believe anyone would say otherwise. You Only Move Twice is arguably the best episode the Simpsons ever did.

It loving sucks that Fox didn't let them use him in the movie

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Improbable Lobster posted:

It loving sucks that Fox didn't let them use him in the movie

Nah, I would not want to tarnish Hank Scorpio with something as horrid as the movie.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Iron Crowned posted:

Tire rotation is a scam. Anyone who owns a car should know how to change a tire, and if you can change a tire you can rotate them in under an hour.

I rotate my tires thousands of times every day, I don't know what the big deal is

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon

Improbable Lobster posted:

It loving sucks that Fox didn't let them use him in the movie

There was no way that wouldn't have been awful or worse, especially if the EPA guy took the role he was supposed to have.

luchajones
Jan 28, 2018

I have no beard, and I must scream
They should have taken an older episode and turned it into a movie. Id love an Itchy and Scratchy Land movie

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer
I listened to an interview with Mike Reiss, who's been a writer since the beginning, and I noticed a small change in the early-days lore.

The story used to be that the script that had Apu's first appearance said "the clerk is not Indian" because it was already a hack joke by 1989, and then Hank Azaria did an Indian accent to make fun of that note, and that got a big laugh and there you have it.

Now they're saying Sam Simon whispered in the table read to Hank Azaria to do an accent. So they're basically blaming it on the dead guy now.

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

Improbable Lobster posted:

It loving sucks that Fox didn't let them use him in the movie

Hank Scorpio genuinely loved Homer and valued him as an employee. He even offered Mr. Smithers and his partner full benefits in the 90s. Outside of wiping out the East Coast, he was a really good boss. (And even wiping out the East Coast isn't such a bad thing.)

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Ein cooler Typ posted:

Matt Groening hated the The Critic crossover so much he took his name off the credits
That was such a bitch move because he felt The Critic team was trying to use the Simpsons to garner more audience members and, like, just do your former crewmates a solid Matt.

Family Guy talk reminded me of the moment i turned off the Simpsons. It was the Halloween Episode with the Homerclones and in the sea of degenerate Homers, they included a Peter Griffin. I thought it was such a petty move that I just stopped watching altogether.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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FilthyImp posted:

That was such a bitch move because he felt The Critic team was trying to use the Simpsons to garner more audience members and, like, just do your former crewmates a solid Matt.

Family Guy talk reminded me of the moment i turned off the Simpsons. It was the Halloween Episode with the Homerclones and in the sea of degenerate Homers, they included a Peter Griffin. I thought it was such a petty move that I just stopped watching altogether.

At the time I thought that was a well deserved dig because I had a heck of a grudge against Family Guy for supposedly usurping the Simpsons' premise.

Little did I know how things would have turned out. (Though I probably should have.)

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Detective No. 27 posted:

Hank Scorpio genuinely loved Homer and valued him as an employee. He even offered Mr. Smithers and his partner full benefits in the 90s. Outside of wiping out the East Coast, he was a really good boss. (And even wiping out the East Coast isn't such a bad thing.)

Yeah, Hank Scorpio is a supervillain, but his "superpower" that lets him take over is being a great boss who treats his employees well.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Zulily Zoetrope posted:

The last time I watched New Family Guy, it was an episode that involved time travel and the token Jewish character. I think it had a lot of nazi references and not a single actual joke.

it was still better than the accompanying simpsons i can guarantee you

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Data Graham posted:

At the time I thought that was a well deserved dig because I had a heck of a grudge against Family Guy for supposedly usurping the Simpsons' premise.
I get that, but The Simpsons was a global phenomenon and a cultural milestone. It was punching down in the worst way.

Plus it is conveniently myopic of the fact Simpsons is The Flintstones for Gen X.

SEX BURRITO
Jun 30, 2007

Not much fun
https://www.avclub.com/the-simpsons-vacation-episodes-ranked-1826806649

I haven’t seen most of the episodes at the bottom of the rankings. It’s fun to read about them though. Apparently, since I stopped watching, they’ve done an episode where they go back to France and Bart meets the dodgy wine guys and there was an episode where they went to Denmark to get healthcare for grandpa. Wow, what a shame I didn’t catch those ones.

Quote-Unquote
Oct 22, 2002



Prurient Squid posted:

I voted other. My choice is "Homer getting raped by a panda". Quite possibly this is biased by the fact that I stopped watching around about that time so in my mind there was no room for it to get worse.

I think there was a decent satire about dumb 'prank culture' buried in that episode somewhere (like assaulting Lenny with pudding), and how horrible it is to degrade yourself for money and how horrible people are for taking advantage of desperate people, but it missed the mark by a wide loving margin.

It was probably a reaction to the media hysteria about Jackass (the moral panic of that era, because a handful of morons tried to recreate stuff they'd seen on TV), a bit like the episode where people pay Kenny to eat his own puke and dogshit, then suck off Howard Stern.

PostNouveau posted:

Yeah, Hank Scorpio is a supervillain, but his "superpower" that lets him take over is being a great boss who treats his employees well.

And here we are, over 20 years after that episode aired, and even the most basic employee benefits are considered literally communism by the government, the media, and the swarms of turkeys that are huge fans of Thanksgiving/Christmas.

Quote-Unquote fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Jul 2, 2018

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

FilthyImp posted:

That was such a bitch move because he felt The Critic team was trying to use the Simpsons to garner more audience members and, like, just do your former crewmates a solid Matt.

Family Guy talk reminded me of the moment i turned off the Simpsons. It was the Halloween Episode with the Homerclones and in the sea of degenerate Homers, they included a Peter Griffin. I thought it was such a petty move that I just stopped watching altogether.

there was an ok joke about it in an otherwise absolutely horrible episode where sideshow bob has been living in italy for years and has had a child who is older than maggie (??) and the simpsons all go to italy and the inevitable exact same sideshow bob plot happens for the 20th time.

anyway in that episode the italian cops are flipping through a book of criminals' mugshots to find bob's and as they go through they have a picture of peter griffin and it says he's wanted for "plagiarismo", and they flip to the next page and it's stan from american dad for "plagiarismo di plagiarismo"

Veni Vidi Ameche! posted:

Hank Scorpio loving owns, though. I can’t believe anyone would say otherwise. You Only Move Twice is arguably the best episode the Simpsons ever did.

no, inarguably

Quote-Unquote
Oct 22, 2002



The last time I saw an episode with Sideshow Bob he literally has mutant super powers.

No it wasn't a Halloween episode, and neither was the one where the Simpsons get kidnapped by Krang and Kodos.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

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Sagebrush posted:

there was an ok joke about it in an otherwise absolutely horrible episode where sideshow bob has been living in italy for years and has had a child who is older than maggie (??) and the simpsons all go to italy and the inevitable exact same sideshow bob plot happens for the 20th time.

anyway in that episode the italian cops are flipping through a book of criminals' mugshots to find bob's and as they go through they have a picture of peter griffin and it says he's wanted for "plagiarismo", and they flip to the next page and it's stan from american dad for "plagiarismo di plagiarismo"


no, inarguably

Inarguably means arguably? What a country!

Aschlafly
Jan 5, 2004

I identify as smart.
(But that doesn't make it so...)
The recent "don't have a cow" episode, where the writers basically told everyone who was mildly concerned about Apu being an Indian caricature voiced by a white dude to go gently caress themselves, was pretty bad and tone deaf

YeahTubaMike
Mar 24, 2005

*hic* Gotta finish thish . . .
Doctor Rope

Code Jockey posted:

this is family guy.

wiggum is peter, and this is a family guy sketch.

ugh

family guy would have done that funnier and shorter. damning with faint praise, i assure you.

Zulily Zoetrope posted:

The last time I watched New Family Guy, it was an episode that involved time travel and the token Jewish character. I think it had a lot of nazi references and not a single actual joke.

the last time I watched family guy, the episode was making fun of millennials getting offended on twitter

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Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

loooooool



in the further demographic breakdown we see that women on average rate the documentary nearly double what the men do

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