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El Gallinero Gros posted:If Ostrander wrote SS, it's probably good. If not, you're takin' a chance. Ostrander's original Suicide Squad run that lasted from 1987 to 1993-ish is one of my top ten comic runs of all time. It has aged incredibly well, better than almost anything else from that era. It's the reason anyone gives a poo poo about Deadshot, Captain Boomerang, Amanda Waller, and the Squad/Task Force X concept in general today.
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Jul 1, 2018 05:11
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Problem with modern SS is that people take the story but not the concept. They can have any villain fill in any espionage team but they do they instead do the same thing over and over without playing with the idea. It's like they copy one story arc of Ostrander's over and over and don't do anything new with the concept
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Jul 1, 2018 05:31
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TwoPair posted:I know James Jr. was in the N52 Suicide Squad for a bit but Suicide Squad got relaunched a stupid number of times in N52 and I quit it quick. It did not seem good, but then, I've hated the vast majority of Suicide Squad material I've read in the past. I was mostly wondering about pre New 52 continuity.
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Jul 1, 2018 06:02
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According to this list of appearances (https://comicvine.gamespot.com/james-gordon-jr/4005-70633/issues-cover/) he's barely appeared between Year One and Black Mirror. I haven't read Long Halloween or the Legends of the Dark Knight stories. Do they develop anything? It might be all on Snyder.
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Skwirl posted:I was mostly wondering about pre New 52 continuity. Oh then no, Black Mirror's like his only story pre-N52. Flashpoint happened like, right after JJ's intro (that is to say, the introduction/retcon of psycho JJ) e: poo poo I lied he's in the next couple arcs (featuring the arc you want where Gordon learns his son is nuts) after Black Mirror, he does appear right before Flashpoint though so there's not a lot of pre-N52 material TwoPair fucked around with this message at 06:47 on Jul 1, 2018 |
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Jul 1, 2018 06:24
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Teenage Fansub posted:According to this list of appearances (https://comicvine.gamespot.com/james-gordon-jr/4005-70633/issues-cover/) he's barely appeared between Year One and Black Mirror. I think he's still a baby or Toddler in Long Halloween, I'm thinking James Junior the psychopath is a Scott Snyder invention. I thought there might have been a story about him being dangerous in the intervening years.
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Finalfinished my reread through of the complete original run of Ultimate Spider-Man. Haven't jumped into Ultimate Comics yet because I'm detouring to X-Men. It starts out pretty good. Not as good as Spidey, but I'm enjoying it. When does it get completely dire like I've heard? I think back in the day I only read about 20 issues of the main run.
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Jul 1, 2018 18:05
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Unmature posted:Finalfinished my reread through of the complete original run of Ultimate Spider-Man. Haven't jumped into Ultimate Comics yet because I'm detouring to X-Men. It starts out pretty good. Not as good as Spidey, but I'm enjoying it. When does it get completely dire like I've heard? I think back in the day I only read about 20 issues of the main run. Robert Kirkman.
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Jul 1, 2018 18:20
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Skwirl posted:Robert Kirkman. Yeah. Bail out after Vaughn's run.
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Jul 2, 2018 01:53
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This has probably already been asked but has Juggernaut been retconned into a mutant in the comics?
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Jul 2, 2018 18:48
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bessantj posted:This has probably already been asked but has Juggernaut been retconned into a mutant in the comics? I believe Juggernaut remains a magically-enhanced human (but this is the X-Men we're talking about, so it's entirely possible I missed a retcon or three somewhere along the way).
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Jul 2, 2018 18:53
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ecavalli posted:I believe Juggernaut remains a magically-enhanced human (but this is the X-Men we're talking about, so it's entirely possible I missed a retcon or three somewhere along the way). Ah good, considering he's a mutant in X-Men 3 and Deadpool 2 I wondered if they'd retconned somewhere along the way.
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Jul 2, 2018 18:58
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bessantj posted:This has probably already been asked but has Juggernaut been retconned into a mutant in the comics? No, but no word on Juggerduck yet. https://twitter.com/Doncates/status/1009206455663292416
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Jul 2, 2018 19:15
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bessantj posted:Ah good, considering he's a mutant in X-Men 3 and Deadpool 2 I wondered if they'd retconned somewhere along the way. Nah. He's had some troubles with Cyttorak over the years - one of which was a major story whose name escapes me - but that's where he gets his juice from.
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Jul 2, 2018 19:19
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X-O posted:No, but no word on Juggerduck yet. Please tell me he is powered by the Gem of Cyttoquack. Also, did they label him as a Mutant in DP2 or was it just he was in the Mutant prison? Having the cop out of Juggernaut being a mutant so he headbutts himself unconscious is just one of the many sins of X3.
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Maybe I got the wrong end of the stick with DP2, they had one of those collars on him but they could just stop all types of powers.
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I think for the movies it's easier to just roll him into being a mutant rather than get bogged down explaining how, no, he's not a mutant he's really just a guy that found a mystical gem in a Korean cave that is empowered by the demigod-like being which Doctor Strange invokes during bondage sessions. It's a distinction that rarely pays off in the comics and so far is wholly irrelevant in the movies. Also, in DP2 they definitely don't have one of those collars on him. It's never shown, and while he is in the prison with all the mutants wearing collars, he's also wearing his bucket that completely covers his neck, and is kept in an isolated chamber away from the unpowered populace.
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Jul 2, 2018 22:28
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I was talking to my friend who had just read the new Thor #1, and said to me "I don't think Thor and Juggernaut ever fought before." Now I'm looking for my copies of Thor 411 and 412 for him. Didn't one of those get a shoutout in DP2, or was that 429?
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Oh good an excuse to post this
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Ghostlight posted:Oh good an excuse to post this Seeing that coming at me, I'd probably poo poo out my entire skeleton before impact.
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Jul 3, 2018 01:50
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I like how Juggs remembers reading about thors hammer. Like its was in the last weeks issue of 'capes weekly' "Thors, hammer always returns to him? Neat! Oh spider-man has a car? I should get a car. 'The Juggertruck'! Oh man im gonna do so many doughnuts on Chuck's lawn."
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Agent_grey posted:I like how Juggs remembers reading about thors hammer. Like its was in the last weeks issue of 'capes weekly' He reads the in universe Thor comics
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Cain's never been dumb, really. Not like the Absorbing Man or something. He catches on, it's just how tactical do you need your thinking to be when you're the Juggernaut <ancient meme>?
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Ghostlight posted:Also, in DP2 they definitely don't have one of those collars on him. It's never shown, and while he is in the prison with all the mutants wearing collars, he's also wearing his bucket that completely covers his neck, and is kept in an isolated chamber away from the unpowered populace. Ah I thought he did. There are probable some mutant powers you can't really turn off. If you stick one of those collars on a morlock do they turn back into a 'normal' looking human?
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Just so I'm not bogging down the Funny Panels thread with questions and not funny panels, Do all of Thing's catchphrases date from the Kirby-Lee run? Did anyone after them manage to give him new sayings that have stuck around?
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Lobok posted:Just so I'm not bogging down the Funny Panels thread with questions and not funny panels,
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Skwirl posted:Ever loving Blue eyed, anything Yancy Street and Clobbering Time are all definitely Lee/Kirby, does he have other catch phrases? Aunt Petunia, which is also Kirby BTW, she appeared in Byrne's run, she was a nurse taking care of Ben Grimm's uncle who then married him. Then Mark Millar killed her because of course Lightning Lord fucked around with this message at 21:11 on Jul 3, 2018 |
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Skwirl posted:Ever loving Blue eyed, anything Yancy Street and Clobbering Time are all definitely Lee/Kirby, does he have other catch phrases? There's "Wotta revoltin' development!", which was taken from a 1940s radio sitcom and I would suspect is Lee/Kirby as well, given that vintage. How about when he talks about his Aunt Petunia?
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This isn't quite the same thing, but I was reading an Essential trade of that sort of deadzone forgotten FF between Lee and Byrne (by Wolfman? Wein? Conway?) and they put the Thing's accent into loving overdrive, every single line was something like "Ehhhh, Highpockets, dis lady sez she ain't in no kindsa mood fer yer bella-achin' so's mebbe youse skedaddle outta da jernt, Chester!" I'm willing to believe Lee snuck in a couple of "mebbe"s but whoever wrote this run had Ben talking about "dis jernt" and "dat jernt" and "da jernt" at least once an issue, it was really odd.
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Skwirl posted:Ever loving Blue eyed, anything Yancy Street and Clobbering Time are all definitely Lee/Kirby, does he have other catch phrases? He's also the self-proclaimed "idol o' millions" and he has his "Sunday punch". Feel like there are even more.
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Edge & Christian posted:This isn't quite the same thing, but I was reading an Essential trade of that sort of deadzone forgotten FF between Lee and Byrne (by Wolfman? Wein? Conway?) and they put the Thing's accent into loving overdrive, every single line was something like Doug Moench (!) was in there too.
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Unmature posted:He reads the in universe Thor comics The ones that say it's all done with tech, and Thor, Loki, and Odin are just a regular family with issues? 
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Edge & Christian posted:I'm willing to believe Lee snuck in a couple of "mebbe"s but whoever wrote this run had Ben talking about "dis jernt" and "dat jernt" and "da jernt" at least once an issue, it was really odd. I've spent nearly my entire life in NYC, and I've never once heard anyone call anything a "jernt". My grandfather grew up on the Lower East, which I believe is where the fictional Yancy street was intended to exist, and he always said "joint". There was definitely a lot of "dis, dat, and da utter ting" but no "jernt".
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Edge & Christian posted:This isn't quite the same thing, but I was reading an Essential trade of that sort of deadzone forgotten FF between Lee and Byrne (by Wolfman? Wein? Conway?) and they put the Thing's accent into loving overdrive, every single line was something like Truly it is sad that Rodney Dangerfield will never voice the Thing.
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Jedi posted:I've spent nearly my entire life in NYC, and I've never once heard anyone call anything a "jernt". My grandfather grew up on the Lower East, which I believe is where the fictional Yancy street was intended to exist, and he always said "joint". There was definitely a lot of "dis, dat, and da utter ting" but no "jernt".
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Jedi posted:I've spent nearly my entire life in NYC, and I've never once heard anyone call anything a "jernt". My grandfather grew up on the Lower East, which I believe is where the fictional Yancy street was intended to exist, and he always said "joint". There was definitely a lot of "dis, dat, and da utter ting" but no "jernt". I suspect the "jernt" was someone trying to write a more Brooklynese accent, the one where Greenpoint gets turned into "Greenpernt."
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Hey, you just met him And this means war But here's his number So
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Hey dudes, who's in charge of HYDRA these days? And SHIELD? (Nick Jr. and Hill?)
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Vulpes Vulpes posted:Hey dudes, who's in charge of HYDRA these days? And SHIELD? (Nick Jr. and Hill?) SHIELD is officially defunct, and HYDRA's leadership will probably be a plot point in the upcoming Captain America.
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