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Today’s Rome dev diary I mean sure I guess, buildings do stuff. I would really like to read about the reasons why things are the way they are instead of just a list of irrelevant numbers.
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Fellblade posted:Today’s Rome dev diary  I'm excited for the game but at this point it seems like these Dev Diaries are like "The game has butan" 
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Jul 2, 2018 13:39
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Carver posted:I don't know if it's been posted elsewhere but Fredrik Wester will be sharing some interesting stuff day after day for July this is the first time i've seen this image and it's hilarious. "no you can't trademark 'bestiest game ever'" 
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Jul 2, 2018 15:59
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axeil posted:this is the first time i've seen this image and it's hilarious. 
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Jul 2, 2018 16:03
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Has Paradox released over 100 bucks worth of DLCs for their niche game? Yes. Did I buy them all? Yes. Do I feel bad about it? No.
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Jul 2, 2018 16:24
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Fellblade posted:Today’s Rome dev diary They're very good at making the frothiest grogs angry which is extremly entertaining
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Jul 2, 2018 18:44
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axeil posted:this is the first time i've seen this image and it's hilarious. Swap legal and production IMO
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Jul 2, 2018 18:59
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Enjoy posted:Swap legal and production IMO Literal lawyers aren't lawful 
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Jul 2, 2018 19:09
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AnoHito posted:Literal lawyers aren't lawful Can’t say I’ve ever met a lawful good lawyer, but I’m sure they are out there somewhere!
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Jul 2, 2018 19:35
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:
I'm inclined to agree, we get so little and it's so basic. We do get little tiny bits of nice information, like being able to queue up buildings in this one, but I wish they were more in depth even if that means delaying them until the game's further along.
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Jul 2, 2018 20:54
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catlord posted:I'm inclined to agree, we get so little and it's so basic. We do get little tiny bits of nice information, like being able to queue up buildings in this one, but I wish they were more in depth even if that means delaying them until the game's further along. I'm actually okay with the amount of content in the dev diaries thus far. I would like to see more, sure, but the game is still a good chunk of months away so this pacing allows me to pick at the nitty-gritty a bit. I really wish they would do a dev diary covering trade goods and how that system will work. From previous diaries and various screenshots, this is what I've been able to figure out: Camel Cloth Elephants Fish Grain Green Fan Plant? Horse Iron Livestock Olives Pelts? Salt? Wine Wood Green Fan Plant is my favorite. Ofaloaf posted:If you want to make some total conversion sort of mod that isn't set in Antiquity, yeah it's going to be weird if you aren't able to rope someone in who has the modelling experience and can replace all those togas. As someone who is planning a total conversion mod that isn't set in Antiquity, this is a pretty big concern for me. Worst case scenario is that I take a couple of polygons and slap some 2D images on them. Hopefully that will work...
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Jul 2, 2018 23:55
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ExtraNoise posted:I'm actually okay with the amount of content in the dev diaries thus far. I would like to see more, sure, but the game is still a good chunk of months away so this pacing allows me to pick at the nitty-gritty a bit. I'd a least rather we get diaries like Dev Diary #2, which also gave just a bit of information but also talked about why they made some of the choices they made, in that case for the start date and map size. Compare to, say, Dev Diary #3 and #4, which just give you a list of things.
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Jul 3, 2018 00:16
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ExtraNoise posted:I'm actually okay with the amount of content in the dev diaries thus far. I would like to see more, sure, but the game is still a good chunk of months away so this pacing allows me to pick at the nitty-gritty a bit. Green Fan Plant = hemp
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Jul 3, 2018 07:37
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IV/XX burn Rome erryday
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Jul 3, 2018 08:53
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RabidWeasel posted:Green Fan Plant = hemp Ahh, thanks!
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Jul 3, 2018 16:12
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aphid_licker posted:IV/XX burn Rome erryday 
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Jul 4, 2018 03:12
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I am a bit behind the times and only just learned about Red Shell (spyware) in Civ6 today. How does Paradox gather their game statistics, I assume not Red Shell? Edit: Guess the Paradox Interactive Privacy Policy kinda gives the answer. So they collect more than just game data and actually share it. No way to opt out... Tahirovic fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Jul 4, 2018 |
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Jul 4, 2018 19:33
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Tahirovic posted:I am a bit behind the times and only just learned about Red Shell (spyware) in Civ6 today.
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Jul 4, 2018 21:25
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GrossMurpel posted:Huh. People actually care about how good the portraits look? Portraits were always on par with the 3D army models for me regarding their level of importance. Have you seen how much unit DLC there is out there? 
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Jul 4, 2018 22:03
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Skimming that, I'm not sure it's actually legal under EU law. Hit them with the GDPR. They uh, literally mention GDPR by name in the second paragraph so you might not have a lot of success with that.
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Jul 4, 2018 22:26
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resident forum poster skims legal document and assumes a necessary verdict, news at 11
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Jul 4, 2018 22:29
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The Cheshire Cat posted:They uh, literally mention GDPR by name in the second paragraph so you might not have a lot of success with that. In any case, merely mentioning GDPR isn't the same as being in compliance - as shown by numerous companies breaking the GDPR by unlawfully requesting consent in an attempt to be in compliance immediately after it came into effect.
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Jul 5, 2018 07:18
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I spent the first 6 months of this year elbow-deep in GDPR (I'm part of a team that publishes several mobile apps and websites for a major global consumer product brand) and their privacy policy looks, to my non-lawyery eye, just fine re: GDPR conformity. Bear in mind that much of the information that they mention collecting is also likely anonymized to one degree or another whether explicitly mentioned or not. A Buttery Pastry posted:I was going by Tahirovic's post, which claims no way to opt out. Obviously it's fine if you can opt-out as easily as you can opt-in, and if opting-out doesn't impact your actual game experience. In Paradox's own words, the latter isn't the case though? And withdrawing consent doesn't seem to be as easy as giving it? Trying to submit a request, you get the choice between requesting information, or account deletion, but not the option to just tell them to not collect data on you that's not relevant to providing the service. That's not the underlying point of GDPR, which can be boiled down to granting consumers a "right to be forgotten", not "a right to always be anonymous without any limits on service". You do have the option to opt out of any data collection on Paradox's part, the condition being you accept that you then have limited access to their services (including their games). You can't have your cake and eat it too here, the price of completely and totally opting out is not playing a Paradox game. You can completely opt out of Facebook using your personal information too, the price being that you then have to stop using Facebook. You can opt out of Valve collecting your personal information via Steam, the implication being that you can then no longer use Steam. Drone fucked around with this message at 07:23 on Jul 5, 2018 |
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Jul 5, 2018 07:19
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What they do is all legal, doesn't mean it's cool. It sounds kinda harmless but they still seem to gather a lot of data outside of "which national focus do people like". It sounds like they even gather which SteamIDs play multiplayer together. It is pretty unclear how exactly they gather the data, which data they really transmit and if/how they anonymize it.Drone posted:That's not the underlying point of GDPR, which can be boiled down to granting consumers a "right to be forgotten", not "a right to always be anonymous without any limits on service". You do have the option to opt out of any data collection on Paradox's part, the condition being you accept that you then have limited access to their services (including their games). You can't have your cake and eat it too here, the price of completely and totally opting out is not playing a Paradox game. The only way to opt out is to not play the games you paid for, that's kind of bullshit honestly. In a nice world they'd change it so it only gathers any data if you're logged into your Paradox account. If you don't you opt out of the data gathering. Tahirovic fucked around with this message at 07:26 on Jul 5, 2018 |
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Jul 5, 2018 07:23
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Tahirovic posted:It sounds like they even gather which SteamIDs play multiplayer together. It states this precisely nowhere in that privacy policy, at least not that I can find. Where did you see this? Tahirovic posted:In a nice world they'd change it so it only gathers any data if you're logged into your Paradox account. If you don't you opt out of the data gathering. Yeah, that would be the ideal, but it's also incompatible with selling a product that is pretty much completely digital-only, via a digital storefront, to customers located worldwide. Even if you scaled the amount of data collected back to "the literal bare minimum we need in order to run a competent online-based business", you're still collecting data that is vital to business intelligence. Example: you need to know someone's operating system in order to make sure your product runs on it; you need to know someone's physical location in order to determine if it's a wise business decision to put out an official localization in that person's native language; you need to know which online platform they bought from in order to determine where best to concentrate your efforts and maybe no longer invest in platforms that don't provide you with an acceptable ROI; you need to know things about the player's gaming habits (how much time spent in single player vs. multiplayer, which countries are the most played, etc.) in order to better tailor your product to meet consumer demand. You need to know how many people bought your product and exactly when (launch day? Steam sale? holidays?) in order to determine an effective and fair pricing structure. Big Data is awful and the future of data is scary, but Big Bad Paradox (noted unethical company!) isn't collecting any data that is in any way unreasonable, and GDPR helps to ensure that the data they do collect is handled responsibly, and helps to ensure that you have full control over your data should you ever wish to go off the grid. Tahirovic posted:The only way to opt out is to not play the games you paid for, that's kind of bullshit honestly. Put your Steam in offline mode and block Paradox games on your router firewall if you're that concerned about it. It sucks, but you didn't purchase a game. You purchased a license to a game, and never purchased a guarantee that it will be usable forever. Sorry, but that's how things work in a post-physical medium world. Drone fucked around with this message at 07:35 on Jul 5, 2018 |
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Drone posted:It states this precisely nowhere in that privacy policy, at least not that I can find. Where did you see this? Privacy Policy posted:Multiplayer sessions, when these sessions were played and which players were in them Drone posted:Yeah, that would be the ideal, but it's also incompatible with selling a product that is pretty much completely digital-only, via a digital storefront, to customers located worldwide. Even if you scaled the amount of data collected back to "the literal bare minimum we need in order to run a competent online-based business", you're still collecting data that is vital to business intelligence. Example: you need to know someone's operating system in order to make sure your product runs on it; you need to know someone's physical location in order to determine if it's a wise business decision to put out an official localization in that person's native language; you need to know which online platform they bought from in order to determine where best to concentrate your efforts and maybe no longer invest in platforms that don't provide you with an acceptable ROI; you need to know things about the player's gaming habits (how much time spent in single player vs. multiplayer, which countries are the most played, etc.) in order to better tailor your product to meet consumer demand. You need to know how many people bought your product and exactly when (launch day? Steam sale? holidays?) in order to determine an effective and fair pricing structure. Now technically this is nothing new, we've known they are gathering game play data because they show statistics. But now with the new laws they had to say what exactly they gather and it seems like there's a lot of data they shouldn't really need to figure out what to improve on their game. We don't know what they store and how they store, all we know is that we have to agree that they are allowed to collect a lot of poo poo about us to play the game we paid for. From a reddit post we know they say the only thing they share with anyone (google/facebook etc) is ad related so they can have targeted ads on their website. To improve HoI you need to know which nation was played, which focus was picked, how the wars went etc. You don't need to know where I live or anything else like that. Game related anonymized data is fine, anything else isn't.
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Drone posted:That's not the underlying point of GDPR, which can be boiled down to granting consumers a "right to be forgotten", not "a right to always be anonymous without any limits on service". You do have the option to opt out of any data collection on Paradox's part, the condition being you accept that you then have limited access to their services (including their games). You can't have your cake and eat it too here, the price of completely and totally opting out is not playing a Paradox game. *Calling Paradox doing market research on you a service is pretty ridiculous.
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It's been years and I can't find the posts any more but I distinctly remember that when Johan listed the data EU4 phoned home it included your steam ID and a bunch of play data (mods installed, start year, SP/MP, etc).
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I'm finding it difficult to step into Paradox games, even though I really enjoy them. I'd like to play either EU4, CK2, HoI4 or Stellaris but for all of them I'm blocked in my mind because either they have interesting looking DLC coming, or, for Stellaris, a new good patch. What is a good time to step into one of these games? Convince me! Paralyzed by "if I just wait a month it will be even better"
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Jul 6, 2018 20:40
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The answer is that Paradox games will always and forever have that awesome DLC/patch on the horizon, so the best time to play is right now or else you will wait literally forever. Enjoy it how it is today, enjoy it even more next month, and so on.
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Jul 6, 2018 20:47
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Crazycryodude posted:The answer is that Paradox games will always and forever have that awesome DLC/patch on the horizon, so the best time to play is right now or else you will wait literally forever. Enjoy it how it is today, enjoy it even more next month, and so on. Um. You can just wait until they finish the dlc and wrap up on a game to play. Depending on the game, you'll have years or decades (vicky lol) before a sequel is announced to play in uninterrupted bliss. Duh.
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I love how huge and gamechanging some of the stuff in recent patches has been (sorry non Asia players but these map changes are something I've been wanting forever) but it loving sucks having a 6 month gap before each of the last 2 properly big patches / DLCs (CoC and MoH) and presumably the same for Dharma as well (I'm expecting it to hit somewhere between end of August / mid Sept)
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Jul 6, 2018 23:10
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Fintilgin posted:Um. You can just wait until they finish the dlc and wrap up on a game to play. Depending on the game, you'll have years or decades (vicky lol) before a sequel is announced to play in uninterrupted bliss. Have we actually hit the "end" of a game cycle since they really went all in on their DLC policy? Like I think CK2 was the first one where they switched to incremental DLC updates rather than a couple of big expansions, and technically that's still going (even though they have said that the next one will be the last)
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Fintilgin posted:Um. You can just wait until they finish the dlc and wrap up on a game to play. Depending on the game, you'll have years or decades (vicky lol) before a sequel is announced to play in uninterrupted bliss.  CK2 came out in 2012. And they are only just starting to reach the end of their DLC cycle around now. That's more than six years that you could've been enjoying playing CK2 that you might have spent... not.
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Jul 6, 2018 23:53
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Preeeety sure that post is sarcasm
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Jul 7, 2018 00:09
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If you're one of those weirdos still playing Darkest Hour Kaiserreich, I got off my rear end and put 95% of the tech teams I researched up in the Paradoxplaza KR thread.
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Jul 7, 2018 07:37
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Corvinus posted:If you're one of those weirdos still playing Darkest Hour Kaiserreich, I got off my rear end and put 95% of the tech teams I researched up in the Paradoxplaza KR thread. Does that mean I finally don't have to turn on "take over tech teams" anymore if I wanna blob with a small country that only gets level 1 and 2 teams?
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GrossMurpel posted:Does that mean I finally don't have to turn on "take over tech teams" anymore if I wanna blob with a small country that only gets level 1 and 2 teams? The real tiny/backwards countries are still up poo poo creek, but if you want a small, Most Improved country, try South Africa or even Poland. Runners up may include Netherlands, Finland, Romania, Brazil or Argentina. Edit: Wild card: Manchuria has a reasonable starting TT list but you'll still have to edit in Qing/RoC teams if you go conquering that direction. Corvinus fucked around with this message at 09:55 on Jul 7, 2018 |
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Jul 7, 2018 09:49
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What's a good beginner nation to play in Victoria 2? I have all the expansions
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