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Bleach got bad the minute they left the real world for the Soul Society, it just took awhile for its problems to fully surface. A lot of the issues present in Hueco Mundo were also present in the Soul Society, just less pronounced, less obvious.
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a lot of that stuff would have been fine if it had happened once instead of every arc. like the little character arc during ichigo's fight with kenpachi would be perfectly fine on its own, but instead it gets repeated constantly after soul society
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May 26, 2018 04:58
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Bad Seafood posted:Bleach got bad the minute they left the real world for the Soul Society, it just took awhile for its problems to fully surface. I do think that a lot of Bleach's fundamental mistakes are traceable to things introduced in Soul Society: too many characters in too effectively small a world, Aizen's overpoweredness and plans that don't really make much sense making other fights/characters/plotlines feel pointless (and after Aizen was defeated Kubo introduced a villain with even worse effects on the plot with Yhwach), and the shikai/bankai system leading to an overly rigid structure for fights (whoever is the last to use their full power wins, basically). But I think what really exacerbated the problem was Kubo sort of running out of ideas and repeating himself. So you and Manatee Cannon are both right to an extent.
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May 26, 2018 05:14
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The thing that always struck me as Kubo's biggest issue is he always felt like an artist first, who wasn't necessarily the worst writer in the world but that clearly wasn't his strength. He introduces some cool concepts and manages to pull two or three really good arcs out of it, but can't go much further than that. Great at designing fun, unique, interesting-looking characters, and a lot of them are pretty memorable for their personalities as well, but introducing all those Soul Society captains and vice captains and not-quite-vice-captains and having 98% of them stick around and continue to be important for the rest of the series was absolutely the wrong call. Bleach was almost definitely not meant to go nearly as long as it did. About halfway into Hueco Mundo you could tell he was starting to be more or less over it and started phoning it in even on the art.
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May 26, 2018 05:38
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Silver2195 posted:I do think that a lot of Bleach's fundamental mistakes are traceable to things introduced in Soul Society: too many characters in too effectively small a world, Aizen's overpoweredness and plans that don't really make much sense making other fights/characters/plotlines feel pointless (and after Aizen was defeated Kubo introduced a villain with even worse effects on the plot with Yhwach), and the shikai/bankai system leading to an overly rigid structure for fights (whoever is the last to use their full power wins, basically). But I think what really exacerbated the problem was Kubo sort of running out of ideas and repeating himself. So you and Manatee Cannon are both right to an extent. The decline of Bleach always depresses me because the first six or so volumes were really, really good. Memories in the Rain, in particular, was a great arc with a great villain and even some genuine emotional resonance. Then you get to the end of Soul Society and Ichigo's dad just straight up murks Grand Fisher outta nowhere in a single page.
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TriffTshngo posted:The thing that always struck me as Kubo's biggest issue is he always felt like an artist first, who wasn't necessarily the worst writer in the world but that clearly wasn't his strength. He introduces some cool concepts and manages to pull two or three really good arcs out of it, but can't go much further than that. Great at designing fun, unique, interesting-looking characters, and a lot of them are pretty memorable for their personalities as well, but introducing all those Soul Society captains and vice captains and not-quite-vice-captains and having 98% of them stick around and continue to be important for the rest of the series was absolutely the wrong call. Bleach was almost definitely not meant to go nearly as long as it did. About halfway into Hueco Mundo you could tell he was starting to be more or less over it and started phoning it in even on the art. Kubo should just pair up with a writer and focus on doing character designs. The writer should also do the paneling so that he doesnt feel the need to fill up an entire page with white and a single black box or something
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May 26, 2018 06:08
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Kubo should do a series about fashion competitions. No powers, no twists, just amateur designers and models competing for the title.
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May 26, 2018 06:15
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One of the biggest minor problems of Bleach is that everyone can fly later on so all the fights just happen when they're standing in mid air and the environment isn't particularly important. It's easy to draw but feels really bland.
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May 26, 2018 07:37
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that's not because they're flying, it's because kubo's lazy as gently caress. dbz has actual backgrounds during the midair stuff
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May 26, 2018 07:44
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Bad Seafood posted:Kubo should do a series about fashion competitions. I guess it's time to use that pattern. Ichigo, that flannel jacket you used to win the competition... was influenced by my subtle design!!!! You see it's a layered statement because design can both mean like, the design of an outfit and Aizen's plan to become the Fashion King through his manipulation of Ichigo's actions.
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May 26, 2018 09:57
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bleach could never have been good because kubo is incapable of good writing
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May 26, 2018 11:01
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Kubo is an artist in need of a writer (maybe like Togashi).
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May 26, 2018 15:29
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Bleach's main problem is the plot is bad and makes no sense and there's too many characters and almost every fight is loosely set up to be a Jojo's style puzzle fight but the resolution is always someone uses powerup+1 rather than actually outsmarting anyone. Bleach's strengths are it looks good, the characters are all cool, and some of the fights are really good (but mostly not ichigo fights). Now let's never speak of it again.
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May 26, 2018 15:39
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The biggest problem is that he decided halfway through SS arc that these evil assholes were too popular with readers not to be ichigos pals.
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May 26, 2018 18:09
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Matt Lindland posted:Now let's never speak of it again.
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May 26, 2018 18:34
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"I need to finish writing Hunter X Hunter. It has come to a point where either the story concludes first, or I die before that happens (lol). But I do intend to finish it."
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May 27, 2018 04:43
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It’s the second thing
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May 27, 2018 05:07
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Don't worry, his death will just trigger his nen ability. Which will let him keep doing what he loves after death. Playing Dragon Quest
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New posts on HxH thread and you guys are talking about that garbage poo poo Bleach out of all mangas, god drat.
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Man, I watched HxH for the first time two months ago and fell in absolute love with it. Is there any chance of the 2011 anime being continued?
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SouljaBoyVEVO posted:Man, I watched HxH for the first time two months ago and fell in absolute love with it. Is there any chance of the 2011 anime being continued? We're less than halfway through the next arc, and on a hiatus. So uh, no
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SouljaBoyVEVO posted:Man, I watched HxH for the first time two months ago and fell in absolute love with it. Is there any chance of the 2011 anime being continued? Maybe in 5-10 years
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Kild posted:Maybe in 5-10 years This feels super optimistic even as a time frame for getting off the boat, much less having enough material for followup anime.
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May 30, 2018 02:00
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Animate each arc as it finishes
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May 30, 2018 03:34
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voltcatfish posted:Animate each arc as it finishes So next anime in 10-15 years?
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May 30, 2018 05:16
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I’d settle for an OVA of the last major fight and the immediate aftermath.
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May 30, 2018 05:36
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Mumbling posted:I’d settle for an OVA of the last major fight and the immediate aftermath. I would but I still remember the old HxH OVAs that had less animation than your average Speed Racer episode. Then again, now we have a completely different and far more competent studio, so that shouldn't happen again...hopefully.
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Whose hungry for more Hunter X Hunter? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35Jp9jdYmeI
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Since we're waiting again, there's this thought I had recently. What would happen if a female Nen user were to use Nen while pregnant? We know Aura Nodes can be forced opened, so this would probably open the nodes on the baby. But what effect would this have on the child? Would they be able to master Aura at a ridiculously young age?
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do you expect a fictional pediatrician to answer?
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The answer is nothing because there's no way Killua's mom wasn't smoking dudes while pregnant and all her kids are basically normal. For given values of 'normal' in a psychotic assassin family.
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Eej posted:"I need to finish writing Hunter X Hunter. It has come to a point where either the story concludes first, or I die before that happens (lol). But I do intend to finish it." Just loving hire someone to draw it for you for fucks sake
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Mulva posted:The answer is nothing because there's no way Killua's mom wasn't smoking dudes while pregnant and all her kids are basically normal. For given values of 'normal' in a psychotic assassin family. Killua IS mastering nen at a ridiculously young age tho
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if that were the case then gon and killua would not be so strange and unusual. there are not a ton of nen wunderkinds running around.
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Tunicate posted:Killua IS mastering nen at a ridiculously young age tho karate kid from tournament tower was younger than killua and was training in nen before killua even knew it was a thing. his potential was lower too
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Tunicate posted:Killua IS mastering nen at a ridiculously young age tho So was Gon, and other people we've seen. He wasn't like magically already awakened, he still needed to do the training. Zushi was younger than they were. He didn't pick it up as fast but again: Younger than they were. And Killua is better than some of his siblings. So it doesn't seem to matter at all.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:if that were the case then gon and killua would not be so strange and unusual. there are not a ton of nen wunderkinds running around. Even among nen wunderkids they're exceptional. They were also using nen instinctively long before being awakened. And the zoldycks have five kids, at least three of which are ludicrously stonk. Now you can argue the hereditary effect is purely genetic but there's no real way to tell the difference between the conditions of the pregnancy and DNA.
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Milluki and who else?
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Using nen while pregnant won't affect an unborn child cause you can't develop nen until you have a soul and that doesn't even start developing until about three or four years old.
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Eej posted:"I need to finish writing Hunter X Hunter. It has come to a point where either the story concludes first, or I die before that happens (lol). But I do intend to finish it."
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