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Jul 3, 2018 16:38
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I've just found out Candice Aiston has been suspended from Twitter. So much for the tolerant left.
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Jul 3, 2018 16:38
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aw phuck!
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Jul 3, 2018 16:43
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quick question, because all i've been focusing on are DSA-backed and progressive candidates but...how are trump-backed candidates, or trump-clone candidates, doing in the primaries?
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Jul 3, 2018 16:45
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steinrokkan posted:I've just found out Candice Aiston has been suspended from Twitter. lol what was the final straw? did she begin trying to doxx some leftists or what?
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Jul 3, 2018 16:46
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Gio posted:quick question, because all i've been focusing on are DSA-backed and progressive candidates but...how are trump-backed candidates, or trump-clone candidates, doing in the primaries? It's a mixed bag
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Gio posted:quick question, because all i've been focusing on are DSA-backed and progressive candidates but...how are trump-backed candidates, or trump-clone candidates, doing in the primaries? hit-or-miss for the most part, and trump has been delaying his endorsements longer and longer up until almost the last minute in attempts to walk away with victorious endorsements
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Jul 3, 2018 16:46
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i love all political parties liberal liberal liberal liberal trump fart. i'm an intelelctual. liberal.
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Jul 3, 2018 16:49
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The rest of the party still supports #maga so I'm guessing that's preventing some of the really trumpy candidates from taking over. Its more visible in the democrats because there are actual policy and ideological differences between the left and the establishment dems.
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Jul 3, 2018 16:51
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SKULL.GIF posted:lol what was the final straw? did she begin trying to doxx some leftists or what? Apparently she started unblocking people just so she could yell at them and call them idiots.
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Jul 3, 2018 16:52
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most people in america do not use the word liberal the way c-spam and autistic left twitter use it just fyi
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Jul 3, 2018 17:03
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liz bruenig alt found
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Jul 3, 2018 17:03
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GalacticAcid posted:most people in america do not use the word liberal the way c-spam and autistic left twitter use it just fyi "Every single party in every democracy is liberal" isn't true no matter how you define liberal
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Jul 3, 2018 17:04
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GalacticAcid posted:most people in america do not use the word liberal the way c-spam and autistic left twitter use it just fyi
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Jul 3, 2018 17:06
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Also just to provide context for the tweeter so you don't gotta read the chain to understand they're being pedantic as they are defining it in a non-US way, as it appears the US only really cares about the term socially.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism posted:Unlike Europe and Latin America, the word "liberalism" in North America almost exclusively refers to social liberalism. The dominant Canadian party is the Liberal Party and the United States' Democratic Party is usually considered liberal.[26][27][28]
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Jul 3, 2018 17:08
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WampaLord posted:"Every single party in every democracy is liberal" isn't true no matter how you define liberal i think it was fair to say of every major party in the UK barring UKIP, prior to corbyn
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Jul 3, 2018 17:09
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ThndrShk2k posted:Also just to provide context for the tweeter so you don't gotta read the chain to understand they're being pedantic as they are defining it in a non-US way, as it appears the US only really cares about the term socially. Click through to the article on “social liberalism” It doesn’t mean what you think it does lol
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Jul 3, 2018 17:13
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GalacticAcid posted:Click through to the article on “social liberalism”  ThndrShk2k has issued a correction as of 17:20 on Jul 3, 2018 |
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Jul 3, 2018 17:17
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_liberalism_in_the_United_States posted:Economically, modern American liberalism supported increased government spending and reduced privatization of healthcare, education, and welfare. [Citations Needed]
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Jul 3, 2018 17:19
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In my experience a bunch of (usually older) liberals just can't get past this mindset where conservatives represent your stereotypical openly bigoted fundamentalist Christian and liberals represent the general concept of "open-minded good person who is okay with gay people and marijuana," and that's all there is. They have no concept of any politics outside of that sort of cultural context (where conservatives represent one kind of person and liberals represent another), because that's all they've known for their entire lives. They feel genuine confusion when leftists attack liberals (or assume leftists are actually Republicans), because to them "liberal" is just synonymous with "someone who is good" (and anyone who is attacking them obviously must either be a conservative or influenced by conservatives). A good example of this is an argument I had with this guy who said that literally everything that isn't Republican/conservative falls under the label of "liberal," including socialism. Because, to him, "liberal" just means "vaguely good person who isn't conservative." It doesn't help that these people have often spent years being attacked by conservatives for being liberal, so it's somewhat understandable that they get defensive.
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Jul 3, 2018 17:23
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It bothers me that that extremely dumb and wrong tweet got 200k people to like it
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Jul 3, 2018 17:25
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lmao liberalism is only a foe to monarchs and even then not really
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Jul 3, 2018 17:28
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WampaLord posted:"Every single party in every democracy is liberal" isn't true no matter how you define liberal it is if you're small brained enough to think the liberal tradition is the only source of democracy
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Jul 3, 2018 17:32
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lol liberalism historically was an explicitly anti-democratic ideology with contempt for the common man I mean this is even true practically today, although nominally it promotes democracy
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Jul 3, 2018 17:33
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So many people being dumb as poo poo just makes me cynical and the allure of becoming a tankie grows stronger
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Jul 3, 2018 17:37
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Raskolnikov38 posted:lmao liberalism is only a foe to monarchs and even then not really do you mean republicanism?
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Jul 3, 2018 17:38
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Phi230 posted:So many people being dumb as poo poo just makes me cynical and the allure of becoming a tankie grows stronger
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Jul 3, 2018 17:41
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papa horny michael posted:do you mean republicanism? i was thinking of the early liberals who decried "bad" monarchism
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Jul 3, 2018 17:42
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liberalism is a "big tent"
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Jul 3, 2018 17:42
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its a dang circus is what it is
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Jul 3, 2018 17:43
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Zas posted:its a dang circus is what it is i'd like to borrow two dollars
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Jul 3, 2018 17:44
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Zas posted:its a dang circus is what it is the circus is in town
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Jul 3, 2018 17:45
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GalacticAcid posted:most people in america do not use the word liberal the way c-spam and autistic left twitter use it just fyi things change
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Jul 3, 2018 17:45
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Gio posted:quick question, because all i've been focusing on are DSA-backed and progressive candidates but...how are trump-backed candidates, or trump-clone candidates, doing in the primaries? This add played like 3 times a night during Jeopardy and it was just as spicy everytime. There was another guy going full TRUMP as well in a 3 way race which split the vote and the big business candidate won instead. All around a total garbage fire. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r5QXctM4L8
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Jul 3, 2018 18:52
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https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/1014199066819997698 https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/1014199069995126784 restructure ICE?
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Jul 3, 2018 18:59
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More like Bernie panders
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Jul 3, 2018 19:00
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Yeah this seems to be a weasel-word tweet He says both "abolish" and "restructure" and those are kind of mutually exclusive
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Jul 3, 2018 19:01
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Terror Sweat posted:More like Bernie panders
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john oliver likes to do segments on loan sharks. do you think he'll do one on tim geithner's predatory payday loans company?
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