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Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


El Gallinero Gros posted:

And Fisk abhors losing face.

He’s lucky he’s never been in an Ennis comic

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Samuringa
Mar 27, 2017

Best advice I was ever given?

"Ticker, you'll be a lot happier once you stop caring about the opinions of a culture that is beneath you."

I learned my worth, learned the places and people that matter.

Opened my eyes.

SonicRulez posted:

I thought this was going to be when he came prepared with a written list of fat jokes.

have at you



Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!



I like Bendis' writing. I like when he makes people talk over each other. :shobon:

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

Doc Hawkins posted:

I like Bendis' writing. I like when he makes people talk over each other. :shobon:

When Bendis is good, he is very, very good.

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

And when he's bad he's ca ca doo doo

Philippe
Aug 9, 2013

(she/her)

Pee pee doo doo he is a bad writer

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Push El Burrito posted:

Pete also rocks the black suit in that story.



Spidey just let Fisk know he owns him now.

The black suit revival was one of those stupid movie synergy things as that story arc was happening at the same time as Spider-Man 3 was coming out.

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe

Push El Burrito posted:

Pete also rocks the black suit in that story.



Spidey just let Fisk know he owns him now.

Jesus, he's doing the one-handed lapel hoist but with Kingpin's pec skin.

That just makes me more impressed by Fisk's skin elasticity than anything else in those panels.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

muscles like this! posted:

The black suit revival was one of those stupid movie synergy things as that story arc was happening at the same time as Spider-Man 3 was coming out.

Scuba Trooper
Feb 25, 2006

X-O posted:

Lobo has literal BDE.

oh my god

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
The Peter/Fisk prison scene is prefaced by the Kingpin ransacking his cell and uncovering a literal giant sack of cash that he had hidden in there which he uses to bribe a guard.



It's really fuckin stupid.

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer

Peter should respond "Venom dresses like ME!"

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

Really hard to read this without hearing Cap sound like Moe Szyslak.


Marvel 2-in-1 #4

And this I just thought was surprising:


Marvel 2-in-1 #1

Didn't expect a comicbook to use the word "porno" in the mid-70s.

CzarChasm
Mar 14, 2009

I don't like it when you're watching me eat.
Show of hands, after reading "porno", did the magazine title look like "Titties" to anyone else?

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

Yes. I didn't see it originally in context but as soon as I isolated the panel Titties was staring me in the face.

Toshimo
Aug 23, 2012

He's outta line...

But he's right!

Lobok posted:

Titties was staring me in the face.

:yosnice:

How Wonderful!
Jul 18, 2006


I only have excellent ideas

Lobok posted:

Really hard to read this without hearing Cap sound like Moe Szyslak.


Marvel 2-in-1 #4

And this I just thought was surprising:


Marvel 2-in-1 #1

Didn't expect a comicbook to use the word "porno" in the mid-70s.

That was Gerber, yeah? I could see him getting away with it. A few years later in 1980, right when Kitty Pryde is introduced, Wolverine is right out there in front of everybody reading Penthouse and Playboy at the drugstore (well, I mean, we get PENTHO- and PLAYB- before some coy panel cropping so maybe he was reading Playbeast and Penthoggoth, who knows).


Edit: come to think of it both issues are prime examples of superheroes being truly awful to small-town shopkeepers.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Archyduke posted:

That was Gerber, yeah? I could see him getting away with it. A few years later in 1980, right when Kitty Pryde is introduced, Wolverine is right out there in front of everybody reading Penthouse and Playboy at the drugstore (well, I mean, we get PENTHO- and PLAYB- before some coy panel cropping so maybe he was reading Playbeast and Penthoggoth, who knows).


Edit: come to think of it both issues are prime examples of superheroes being truly awful to small-town shopkeepers.

Is the next panel Colossus (I assume that's Colossus) clocking Wolverine after the distraction to avoid an incident?

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
Funny that Wolverine's original character was pretty much a permanently angry jerkass.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Is that Iron Fist?

Toshimo
Aug 23, 2012

He's outta line...

But he's right!

Synthbuttrange posted:

Is that Iron Fist?

More like Iron Pissed-Himself at that point.

System Metternich
Feb 28, 2010

But what did he mean by that?

Logan's glove thingies where his claws come out make it look like Iron Fist's sporting an insane grin at being threatened and I can't unsee it anymore

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Retro Futurist posted:

He’s lucky he’s never been in an Ennis comic

He appeared in the punisher game that Ennis wrote.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

Alhazred posted:

He appeared in the punisher game that Ennis wrote.

Didn't Ennis 'write' in that they just ripped a bunch of stuff from the Marvel Knights run?

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

Archyduke posted:

That was Gerber, yeah? I could see him getting away with it.

Edit: come to think of it both issues are prime examples of superheroes being truly awful to small-town shopkeepers.

Yep, that was Gerber. And yep, Thing comes off as a huge rear end in a top hat to the shopkeeper. And in the premiere issue. Right from the very first splash page he's tearing up the guy's store.

Took me years to realize that Marvel Team-Up and Marvel Two-in-One were really just "Spider-Man series #2" and "Thing spin-off comic". Like they were afraid of saying it plainly or didn't want to write themselves into a corner of always having to use those two. But they didn't use that freedom much. In Team-Up, Spider-Man is only missing from 10 of 150 issues.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Did anybody ever read the Marvel Team-Up reboot they gave to Robert Kirkman during his brief run at Marvel?

In retrospect, fairly prototypical Invincible (or maybe one of the Invincible spin-offs), but without the ultra-violence.

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

Wheat Loaf posted:

Did anybody ever read the Marvel Team-Up reboot they gave to Robert Kirkman during his brief run at Marvel?

In retrospect, fairly prototypical Invincible (or maybe one of the Invincible spin-offs), but without the ultra-violence.

I think he actually got Invincible into an issue, didn't he?

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


prefect posted:

I think he actually got Invincible into an issue, didn't he?

Yes, it's even canon for Invincible because he was stuck hopping dimensions at the time.

Servoret
Nov 8, 2009



Lobok posted:

Took me years to realize that Marvel Team-Up and Marvel Two-in-One were really just "Spider-Man series #2" and "Thing spin-off comic".

On the other hand, when they cancelled Marvel Two-in-One to actually put out a solo Thing spinoff comic, it was pretty bad.

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

Wheat Loaf posted:

Did anybody ever read the Marvel Team-Up reboot they gave to Robert Kirkman during his brief run at Marvel?

In retrospect, fairly prototypical Invincible (or maybe one of the Invincible spin-offs), but without the ultra-violence.

I read the whole thing, yeah. I feel like I'm in the minority here being a fan of Scott Kollins' art. I remember him from that series and Flash.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Servoret posted:

On the other hand, when they cancelled Marvel Two-in-One to actually put out a solo Thing spinoff comic, it was pretty bad.

That's because they got John Byrne to write it.

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

Servoret posted:

On the other hand, when they cancelled Marvel Two-in-One to actually put out a solo Thing spinoff comic, it was pretty bad.

Could not imagine reading an entire drat series about the Thing. The Two-in-One series is only interesting for who they pair him with and that's exactly how I'm reading it, just skipping ahead to characters I want to see.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Wheat Loaf posted:

Did anybody ever read the Marvel Team-Up reboot they gave to Robert Kirkman during his brief run at Marvel?

In retrospect, fairly prototypical Invincible (or maybe one of the Invincible spin-offs), but without the ultra-violence.

I didn't read it, but I know Kirkman invented a kinda cool new gay character then brutally killed him.

Freedom Ring (which is a cringeworthy name in 2018), he could alter reality, but only within like a four foot radius around himself, it's the kinda thing a good writer could go whole hog on with cool poo poo but still be able to maintain decent stakes for the comic, except he got stabbed a million time at once by an evil alternate universe Tony Stark called Iron Maniac.

That actually would have been a good character to bring back with zero explanation as to how they're alive again after Secret Wars.

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

Skwirl posted:

I didn't read it, but I know Kirkman invented a kinda cool new gay character then brutally killed him.

Freedom Ring (which is a cringeworthy name in 2018), he could alter reality, but only within like a four foot radius around himself, it's the kinda thing a good writer could go whole hog on with cool poo poo but still be able to maintain decent stakes for the comic, except he got stabbed a million time at once by an evil alternate universe Tony Stark called Iron Maniac.

That actually would have been a good character to bring back with zero explanation as to how they're alive again after Secret Wars.

I think about this character a lot. It was definitely an interesting power (the radius was wider though, 15 feet) but I'm still not sure if it should have affected reality completely or just non-living/inorganic matter. With the ring he was able to augment and heal himself but if he could control reality within that distance he would have been able to completely manipulate or transform any villain he came across.

GPTribefan
Jul 2, 2007
Something witty yet inspirational about the Cleveland Indians

Skwirl posted:

I didn't read it, but I know Kirkman invented a kinda cool new gay character then brutally killed him.

Freedom Ring (which is a cringeworthy name in 2018), he could alter reality, but only within like a four foot radius around himself, it's the kinda thing a good writer could go whole hog on with cool poo poo but still be able to maintain decent stakes for the comic, except he got stabbed a million time at once by an evil alternate universe Tony Stark called Iron Maniac.

That actually would have been a good character to bring back with zero explanation as to how they're alive again after Secret Wars.

I always loved how the character came up with his super hero name. His boyfriend/love interest mentioned about getting some free dumb ring and it stuck ☺️

GPTribefan
Jul 2, 2007
Something witty yet inspirational about the Cleveland Indians

Lobok posted:

Yep, that was Gerber. And yep, Thing comes off as a huge rear end in a top hat to the shopkeeper. And in the premiere issue. Right from the very first splash page he's tearing up the guy's store.

Took me years to realize that Marvel Team-Up and Marvel Two-in-One were really just "Spider-Man series #2" and "Thing spin-off comic". Like they were afraid of saying it plainly or didn't want to write themselves into a corner of always having to use those two. But they didn't use that freedom much. In Team-Up, Spider-Man is only missing from 10 of 150 issues.

The Thing is a 1000 times more interesting when he has someone to play off of, and Ben Grimm has been my favorite character since I was about 5. The solo series in the 80s wasn’t too bad, especially once they got him off Battleworld and had him wander the country. I just loved going back and finding those two in one back issues to see how he found a way to wander into some other hero’s turf :)

And I always thought Marvel Team Up was conceived as a Spider-Man/Human Torch book, but they got sick of it real quick and just had Spidey meet whoever they wanted. Torch then became the go-to character when Spider-Man needed a break.

VanSandman
Feb 16, 2011
SWAP.AVI EXCHANGER
Counterpoint: The Thing sucks and is incredibly boring. Somebody post those pages. You know the ones.

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

VanSandman posted:

Counterpoint: The Thing sucks and is incredibly boring. Somebody post those pages. You know the ones.

While I agree with those pages, I don't full on hate the Thing. He's good in small doses. And like GBTribefan, he's way better when playing off someone. That's why the idea of a Thing solo series sounds bad, because it sounds like the opposite of those two things.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





I feel like the only way I'd like a The Thing solo is if they went full camp with it. Like the Batman: Brave and the Bold animated series a few years ago, make it so that the hero is the straight man to every zany thing in the universe.

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Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009

CNC! Easy as 1️⃣2️⃣3️⃣!

ConfusedUs posted:

I feel like the only way I'd like a The Thing solo is if they went full camp with it. Like the Batman: Brave and the Bold animated series a few years ago, make it so that the hero is the straight man to every zany thing in the universe.

Sounds like the Moon Girl & Devil Dinosaur comic, except there was some point where she embraced the lunacy and I forget what issue it was.

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