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ConfusedUs posted:I feel like the only way I'd like a The Thing solo is if they went full camp with it. Like the Batman: Brave and the Bold animated series a few years ago, make it so that the hero is the straight man to every revoltin' development in the universe. I agree with this. I love the Thing when he's playing off someone else, he's a great buddy hero.
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All this talk of Ben as a leading man, and no mention of his stand-alone cartoon where he turns into a human teenager? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64Jv8zbUsf4
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Jul 3, 2018 21:27
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Evil Mastermind posted:All this talk of Ben as a leading man, and no mention of his stand-alone cartoon where he turns into a human teenager? RING THING DO YOUR THING!
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Evil Mastermind posted:All this talk of Ben as a leading man, and no mention of his stand-alone cartoon where he turns into a human teenager? He was originally a fighter pilot in World War 2. It's embarrassing how much they've taken away from him over the years.
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/\/\ He lied about his age during enlistment.Evil Mastermind posted:All this talk of Ben as a leading man, and no mention of his stand-alone cartoon where he turns into a human teenager? Wouldn't it have been better to move the truck off the tracks instead of loving up the train tracks and potentially derailing a train?
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Jul 3, 2018 21:32
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I remember Dan Slott's short-lived Thing book (from back in 2005) being pretty good.
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Thing just loving off during Civil War because he thought it was so stupid and hanging out with the chill French superheroes is honestly one of my fav arcs
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Mover posted:Thing just loving off during Civil War because he thought it was so stupid and hanging out with the chill French superheroes is honestly one of my fav arcs I'm not going to defend it as a whole thing, but there was a bunch of cool poo poo that happened during Civil War. The whole was less than the sum of its parts.
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From what I've heard, most of the cool poo poo that happened in Civil War was from heroes saying "gently caress THAT poo poo, I'm taking my vacation until this all blows over."
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Keeshhound posted:From what I've heard, most of the cool poo poo that happened in Civil War was from heroes saying "gently caress THAT poo poo, I'm taking my vacation until this all blows over." 
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Jul 3, 2018 22:28
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Keeshhound posted:From what I've heard, most of the cool poo poo that happened in Civil War was from heroes saying "gently caress THAT poo poo, I'm taking my vacation until this all blows over." It's more appropriate for the badass panel thread than the funny one but even in the main series you have Spider-Man fighting Mr. Fantastic and The Invisible Woman destroying Taskmaster. Mark Millar can be good at comics, he just doesn't always apply himself (Bryan Hitch did do the heavy lifting on that stuff).
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Jul 3, 2018 22:34
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VanSandman posted:Counterpoint: The Thing sucks and is incredibly boring. Somebody post those pages. You know the ones. 
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Jul 3, 2018 22:38
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Turns out the last page is my people
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Jul 3, 2018 22:40
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Off brand Justice League  Plastic Man x Flash
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What's the story with the Spock-eared cowboy? Not a reference to Moebius's Blueberry, is it?
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I desperately need Ben Grimm to be the Foggy to She-Hulk's Lawyerin' in Law and Order:MCU.
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Phy posted:What's the story with the Spock-eared cowboy? Not a reference to Moebius's Blueberry, is it? I was thinking Jonah Hex since they all seemed liked DC pastiches but I hadn't noticed the ears
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Phy posted:What's the story with the Spock-eared cowboy? Not a reference to Moebius's Blueberry, is it? It’s either that or Lucky Luke.
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Le Cowboy is not a very fleshed out character. I think "howdy mon ami" might be his entire vocabulary.
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Skwirl posted:I didn't read it, but I know Kirkman invented a kinda cool new gay character then brutally killed him. Freedom Ring got a Cosmic Cube that only worked like 15 feet around him. He decides to use this to fight evil. This is good. The method of fighting evil was doing stuff like making jet packs and bazookas. Not amazing but okay. On one of his first big outings he decides to fight the Abomination. A guy he knows next to nothing about, but figures how bad can he be. The net effect of fighting a guy who smashes the Hulk on the regs is Freedom Ring ends up a paraplegic. Because it turns out making jet packs and bazookas doesn’t cut it against a guy who can bench press towns. He eventually gets serious by the end of the series and figures out how to fix his body and really cut loose with what he can do. Like make himself tougher and heal himself and not make the same mistakes as before. He then fights an evil version of Ironman and gets sliced to pieces, proving that he just didn’t learn from his previous mistakes. Moral of the story was Freedom Ring was a dumb hero. And him dying was one of the things that convince Tony to do the Avengers training school.
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The characters in a story can only be as smart as the writer
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The Question IRL posted:Freedom Ring got a Cosmic Cube that only worked like 15 feet around him. He decides to use this to fight evil. The Ring is then acquired by his Skrull neighbor, Crusader, who uses it to create a harem of scantily clad skrull girls to feed him grapes while he watches TV. Crusader later goes on to save the world before being murdered by racists.
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Ghostlight posted:Turns out the last page is my people
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For some reason I always put Freedom Ring and Gravity together in my head. I love Gravity though.Zereth posted:why would you even have a bound set of telephone books They're collector's items!
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Zereth posted:why would you even have a bound set of telephone books
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VanSandman posted:Counterpoint: The Thing sucks and is incredibly boring. Somebody post those pages. You know the ones. <runs into thread at incredible speed> DID SOMEONE SAY THE THING SUCKS   
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It’s not strictly a comic but the Thing was also great in Marvel Heroes (  ) because he a) had a great VA that was just full of Aunt Petunias and Revoltin’ Developments and b) had a really light hearted power set that was a mix of pro-wrestling elbow drops and whipping an entire random hot dog truck at mooks, with crazy stuff like calling in Sue to make a giant, spiked, force hamster ball that you would then roll around in for a while. e: you’d be going up against Surtr in the heart of muspelheim and a couple of kids in hoodies from Yancy Street would be tagging along throwing pies at demons Mover fucked around with this message at 06:43 on Jul 4, 2018 |
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Spidey called up him to help fight a psychotic alien parasite and he showed up to do it. Ya'll leave Ben alone 
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The gently caress have you ever done Hawkeye? Other than fly a jetpack into an engine.
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Cassa posted:The gently caress have you ever done Hawkeye? Other than fly a jetpack into an engine. Something something Kree/Skrull War?
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He murdered Bruce Banner
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The Thing was my dad's favorite super hero so I will not accept any of you bad mouthing his childhood hero
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Samuringa posted:The characters in a story can only be as smart as the writer That's sort of silly, if everybody who wrote, say, Reed Richards was as smart or smarter than Reed Richards, they would've enormously wasted their live by sitting around writing comic books. The thing is to be elegant and discreet and strategic about what you show and what you keep behind the curtain. Stan Lee didn't need to know how to open a portal into another dimension to come up with the idea of sending people into the Negative Zone, ditto Mark Gruenwald didn't need to know how to beat a dozen guys up to come up with cool moves for Captain America to do in a fight. People have written heaps of papers about how Proust, who was not a composer or painter, so persuasively sells the reader on the genius of Venteuil or Elstir-- it's more than Proust just being a super sharp critic and appreciator of art and music, it's a sleight of hand that every writer does. My thing with Freedom Ring is that Kirkman had the admirable idea to make a new superhero with an interesting power-set gay, and the potentially interesting idea of subverting the idea of having a rookie learn the ropes by having a good-intentioned but rash goofball really bite off more than they can chew with tragic consequences. If he could be convinced to rein in his tendencies towards grand guignol excess, he might even be exceptionally well-equipped to tackle the later story, kind of a twist on Doug Ramsey's arbitrary and depressing but strangely earned death in Simonson's New Mutant, a story which I simultaneously hate and kind of admire. The problem, and what left a sour taste in a lot of peoples' mouths, is that he decided to tell both stories with the same character, which wound up looking a lot like a straight writer carelessly disposing of a gay character for shock, as well as a waste of a gay character at a time when those were significantly thinner on the ground. Taken on it's own, the trajectory of Freedom Ring's carelessness with his powers was pretty compelling and nicely paced, even if it ended in what I felt was a really tasteless and tone-deaf fashion.
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Saying The Thing sucks is like saying Jack Kirby sucks. Even if that's somehow your opinion, you should know better than to say it out loud.
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Evil Mastermind posted:All this talk of Ben as a leading man, and no mention of his stand-alone cartoon where he turns into a human teenager? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe_cdXm2uUI
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Lurdiak posted:Saying The Thing sucks is like saying Jack Kirby sucks. Even if that's somehow your opinion, you should know better than to say it out loud. Kirby was undoubtedly a genius and a master of comics as a craft, but some of his ideas aren’t as timeless as the rest.
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The Thing owns bones, and whoever was writing Hawkeye as a total jerk should gently caress right off.
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The part that sticks out to me is that apparently the worst that can be said about the guy whose core character trait is "your dad's best friend" is that he has a handful of catchphrases that he maybe uses too much? Like, if anyone comes off looking bad there it's the humorless, cynical pre-teen version of Hawkeye who wants to poo poo on him for not hiring a writer to come up with fresh rock puns or whatever.
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I loving love the Thing but his schtick is annoying. Doesn't mean he ain't lovable. 
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