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I put this game down forever ago because I wandered into the city of tears and got stuck and couldn't beat Soul Master but I think that was actually the wrong way to go and I don't even have to beat him? I'm bad at metroidvanias. I should give it another go...
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Jul 4, 2018 00:10
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That is the right way but so is every other possible direction.
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Jul 4, 2018 00:13
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Rex-Goliath posted:Yes you get a pretty good ROI once you max it out. Any good strategy for getting Geo? I have gathering swarm which makes it a lot easier.
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Jul 4, 2018 00:16
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Strictly speaking Soul Master is not a boss you have to beat to complete the game, no. You probably want to eventually so you can get access to certain upgrades, but there's no reason you have to take them on where you're at.
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Jul 4, 2018 00:18
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Your third boss after False Knight and Hornet is going to be a big jump in difficulty no matter whether you choose Soul Master or another option. I say go for Soul Master since his drop is extremely useful.
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Jul 4, 2018 00:22
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If you ever find yourself getting frustrated at a boss, just go wander somewhere else for a while. There's always three or four different things to do next, so once you manage to crack one it'll give you the skills/upgrades/confidence to take out the rest.
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Jul 4, 2018 00:26
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BIG BUFF MAN posted:Any good strategy for getting Geo? I have gathering swarm which makes it a lot easier. Honestly Geo becomes irrelevant after a while. Gathering swarm is probably the my important factor in maximizing Geo but it's hardly necessary.
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Jul 4, 2018 00:27
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BIG BUFF MAN posted:Any good strategy for getting Geo? I have gathering swarm which makes it a lot easier. Geo will feel pretty sparse at the beginning of the game but don't worry about it. As long as you aren't constantly dying and losing your shade you should be fine. Just stop by the bank every now and then to drop off whatever you have. By the end of the game you'll be swimming in geo and won't care at all about it.
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Jul 4, 2018 00:30
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Seriously, this is some very good advice for any player wishing to experience everything Hollow Knight has to offer: Make sure you have enough money stored in the bank. Late game you will be swimming in geo, but in the middle game there will be the occasional very useful large-ish expenditure that you will want to make ASAFP. The bank is there, you should use it.
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Jul 4, 2018 00:40
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Oh god...white palace...this is where you learn to git gud at platforming... Would never attempt this poo poo without hiveblood that’s for sure.
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Jul 4, 2018 00:46
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BIG BUFF MAN posted:Dumb question: do you get anything for maxing out your bank account? I’m thinking of Majora’s Mask where you get a piece of heart for depositing 5000 rupees. Yes.
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Jul 4, 2018 00:52
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Cartoon Man posted:Oh god...white palace...this is where you learn to git gud at platforming... Better idea than hiveblood: the charm that gives you heal on getting damaged + the charm that doubles your healing per soul. You can't *quite* go on infinitely with it, but you can take damage like 50 times before dying. And if there's even a single one of those living creatures, you can dream nail it to fill up all the way This has the benefit of not requiring you to wait the fairly long amount of time hiveblood needs to regen.
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Jul 4, 2018 00:52
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How do you beat Ummuruu if you don't trigger your buddy to show up? Or does he always just show up regardless of what you do? Didn't seem like I could damage it without the other guy softening him up
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Jul 4, 2018 00:55
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Man, while I'll maintain that the Flukes so far are the worst in terms of auditory torture ( ) DeepNest is topping it in terms of existential horror. Everything is a silverfish or a a centipede. The enemies. The walls. The spike pits. Both the background and the foreground. And I think at one point I saw a ghost of myself? that disappeared when I got to that junction in the tunnels? what the gently caress? 
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Jul 4, 2018 00:56
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Deepest rules because everything about its design makes it very clear that you are not loving welcome.
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Jul 4, 2018 01:01
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RoboCicero posted:Man, while I'll maintain that the Flukes so far are the worst in terms of auditory torture ( Keep going that way, something fun awaits you
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Jul 4, 2018 01:03
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veni veni veni posted:How do you beat Ummuruu if you don't trigger your buddy to show up? Or does he always just show up regardless of what you do? Didn't seem like I could damage it without the other guy softening him up Latter, Quirrel has your back.
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Jul 4, 2018 01:07
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I'm getting a little frustrated with Deepnest myself. I feel like I've been wandering around forever and have no idea how thorough I am because it's so dark. I keep finding NPCs that don't do anything, making me assume I have to come back later. The latest is after I kept going in one direction for a long time and found some mask guy who just talks to me. I took a break and I'm sure I'm gonna feel hella lost when I get back. I'm sure glad I can suspend the game on the Switch because I can't remember the last fuckin time I saw a bench. I appreciate the scope and the "go wherever" nature of the game tho. It's funny I just beat Mantis Lords and my strategy was entirely dependent on that charge spin move I found by deciding to explore a random direction right before.
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Jul 4, 2018 01:13
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Gathering this essence is taking forever and is annoying. Considering just cheat engine-ing the last couple hundred.
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Jul 4, 2018 01:23
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I have rescued all the grubs. I have come to the conclusion that Hollow Knight is the worst game ever.
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Jul 4, 2018 01:23
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Mister No posted:Gathering this essence is taking forever and is annoying. Considering just cheat engine-ing the last couple hundred. You get more than enough for everything just by killing all the dream ghosts and bosses.
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Jul 4, 2018 01:30
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I figured, my issue is primarily the finding them and traveling to and fro. If they were new areas I would be less "meh" about it.
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Jul 4, 2018 01:58
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ultrachrist posted:I'm getting a little frustrated with Deepnest myself. I feel like I've been wandering around forever and have no idea how thorough I am because it's so dark. I keep finding NPCs that don't do anything, making me assume I have to come back later. The latest is after I kept going in one direction for a long time and found some mask guy who just talks to me. I took a break and I'm sure I'm gonna feel hella lost when I get back. I'm sure glad I can suspend the game on the Switch because I can't remember the last fuckin time I saw a bench. I know spoiler tags are inherently a warning sign, but here's an extra warning that in these tags I will tell you exactly how to reach 2 different Deepnest exits from where you are. 1. There's an exit, like, right there. The screen immediately up from the entrance to the mask maker is not Deepnest anymore. 2. So the entrance to the mask maker is in a generally vertical room, right? If you go down, and head left immediately after the vertical room ends, and just keep going left (won't take long, it's actually fairly close), you will reach another exit.
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Jul 4, 2018 02:00
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Dancer posted:I know spoiler tags are inherently a warning sign, but here's an extra warning that in these tags I will tell you exactly how to reach 2 different Deepnest exits from where you are. Re: #1. I swear that I had explored that room but I turned the game on and took another look and There is no up from the mask maker's entrance. The room beforehand is a few platforms and spikes and spiders with the mask maker room left and then plenty of room downward. Unless I need double jump or some movement ability I don't have, the top of the room is just the ceiling.
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Jul 4, 2018 02:16
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Dr. Fetus posted:I have rescued all the grubs. I have come to the conclusion that Hollow Knight is the worst game ever. Nature red in tooth and claw
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Jul 4, 2018 02:18
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Beat the White Palace and feeling like a boss. I may have to get Celeste. Been scared of getting that game but now I may find I enjoy it... Of course I keep reading spoilers in here about something called the path of pain so I’m probably talking out my rear end.  Oh well, I’ll cross that
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Jul 4, 2018 02:23
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ultrachrist posted:Re: #1. I swear that I had explored that room but I turned the game on and took another look and There is no up from the mask maker's entrance. The room beforehand is a few platforms and spikes and spiders with the mask maker room left and then plenty of room downward. Unless I need double jump or some movement ability I don't have, the top of the room is just the ceiling. There is a path in the upper left, but I honestly can’t remember if it’s possible to enter via the bottom for the first time.
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Jul 4, 2018 02:23
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Decided to get the game again on the switch because I am an idiot. Question: What is the intended path after reaching the City of Tears and doing Soul Sanctum? Both times I make my way through the Crystal Peaks and drop onto the Resting Grounds, and trigger the stuff with the Dreamers.
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Jul 4, 2018 02:25
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Trip report: don't try to cheat engine anything in this. I'm sick in a permanent broken soul state, with the name saying my shade is in the Queen's Garden but it's not!  Also the confessor says I don't need her help so iunno. Prob just gonna wing it. (Also it didn't even work and I still need to gather the essence damnit)
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Jul 4, 2018 02:26
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Unlucky7 posted:Decided to get the game again on the switch because I am an idiot. That's probably the most efficient route. After that you can make your way through the waterways and basin and then you've got basically all the main exploration upgrades.
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Jul 4, 2018 02:30
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Also, I found the hidden area in the place where you fight False Knight.  I didn’t have it in me to kill the poor dopes
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Jul 4, 2018 02:30
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What the gently caress do you mean there's a part 2 to the White Palace!? 
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Jul 4, 2018 02:33
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the path of pain literally gives you nothing for doing it other than a vague, brief cutscene you can look up
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Jul 4, 2018 02:34
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Unlucky7 posted:Also, I found the hidden area in the place where you fight False Knight. If you want a perfect Hunter's Journal, you know what you must do. Admittedly, I didn't complete the journal for a long time because of that.
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Jul 4, 2018 02:42
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Spare none from the cold touch of your nail.
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Jul 4, 2018 02:52
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Zote stole my chick! And his dream kicked my rear end... 
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Jul 4, 2018 02:55
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Cartoon Man posted:Zote stole my chick! Beat the poo poo out of him right out of her subconscious.
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Jul 4, 2018 02:57
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Unlucky7 posted:Decided to get the game again on the switch because I am an idiot. I don't think there is an "intended" path for this game; it gets so freeform once the dreamers show up, and that can happen quite early. There's a whole major area that the player never needs to set foot in to beat the game, but everyone will probably explore it at some point anyway. Pigbuster fucked around with this message at 06:44 on Jul 4, 2018 |
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Jul 4, 2018 06:41
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The route that I found has the best difficulty curve, the one I used to get the speedrun achivement, is False Knight > Hornet > enter the City of Tears, but then go up and get the lantern > Crystal Dash (avoiding Crystal Guardian) > drop down and get the Dreamnail > Lost Kin, at which point you're ready to take on just about anything in the game except endgame stuff. Though you probably want to go Soul Master straight after to open up all the routes; I just find the double jump super useful in boss fights so I try to get it asap.ultrachrist posted:I'm getting a little frustrated with Deepnest myself. I feel like I've been wandering around forever and have no idea how thorough I am because it's so dark. I keep finding NPCs that don't do anything, making me assume I have to come back later. The latest is after I kept going in one direction for a long time and found some mask guy who just talks to me. I took a break and I'm sure I'm gonna feel hella lost when I get back. I'm sure glad I can suspend the game on the Switch because I can't remember the last fuckin time I saw a bench. You probably want at least a map or a lantern before you explore Deepnest, but it sounds like you're managing to handle it pretty well if you've gotten that far in. Unlucky7 posted:Also, I found the hidden area in the place where you fight False Knight. That's the right thing to do tactically, you can dreamnail them repeatedly for infinite soul.
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And then you kill them for the Hunter's Journal entry.
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